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swifty7 · 11-02-2007, 02:53 PM

hd-dud beat me into submission, I couldn't resist.....I was forced and I ended up getting it for $98 from Wal-mart's 1 day sale.

rest assured if a title/price were available for both formats, blu will be the one purchased.

Trebar · 11-02-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spankey

Another low post count member who bought a Wal-Mart special. The trend continues.

At least I didn't buy. Never got a chance, lol. I figure it was God telling me that I should do the right thing.

JimPullan · 11-02-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

I too just returned from Wal-Mart and mine had pulled all HD-DVD and all Blu-ray movies from the racks. The racks were standing there empty. What could this mean?

Wow!!! Could it mean neither format won the war and it is all over?

[Jim]

(Just a pun!)

SpikesBluBlooded · 11-02-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPullan

Wow!!! Could it mean neither format won the war and it is all over?

[Jim]

(Just a pun!)

You're wrong, Jim, just wrong. Someone should take you out back and whoop ya! Now you just know all the Chicken Littles out here are going to go crying to their mommas that the sky is falling again, don't you?

For shame, Jim, for shame...

turfman1964 · 11-02-2007, 02:58 PM

I have to agree with the first person that started this post. This is a worry. Sony should know this from Beta all those years ago. One and i say one not all of the things that drove people to VHS was the units where much cheaper even though Beta was some consider the better format. Sony really needs to answer with at least a 299 dollar player which Sony sales people as little as a month ago was saying would happen on black friday. Now they are backing off that and they really should not. I agree that the 98 dollar player does not need an answer. The answer needs to be for the 199 player with at 299 one. 100 dollars is close enough for the uneducated masses to still buy blu. Before anyone says i am a troll i will list my inventory below.

38 blu-ray movies

HD-Dud 0

3 high def displays

Samsung Hl-t6176

Samsung 4065 lcd

Samsung 4095 lcd

Blu-ray players BD-P1000 and BD-P1200

tru2blu707 · 11-02-2007, 02:59 PM

you know whats funny...i read on an ign forum that HD DVD is picking up steam now and that blu ray needs to plan on a counter. where the h@ll does those editors at ign get their info??? the last time i remember, there is no format war internationally with blu ray beating out HD DVD..and we are in the lead 2-1 with AWESOME titles coming out this 4th quarter

JimPullan · 11-02-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpikesBluBlooded

You're wrong, Jim, just wrong. Someone should take you out back and whoop ya! Now you just know all the Chicken Littles out here are going to go crying to their mommas that the sky is falling again, don't you?

For shame, Jim, for shame...

I couldn't resist - when the poster asked 'what could this mean?'

Jim

SKRUhddvd · 11-02-2007, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephenj

I'm format neutral, owning an HD-D1 and a PS3.

Today, i went to Wal-Mart and bought one of those $99 A2s.

Which got me to thinking ... I bought this as a second player for my den, so it won't result in me buying any more HD-DVD disc's than i already do.

If most folks buying these A2s are like me, then HD-DVD won't benefit much where it really counts - disc sales.

- excellent point. you go to all the different hd forums and you find hddvd supporters are camping out at walmart to buy these when toshiba is trying to get these players into new customers hands. without knowing it the hddvd supporters may be committing format suicide today!

Trebar · 11-02-2007, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tru2blu707

you know whats funny...i read on an ign forum that HD DVD is picking up steam now and that blu ray needs to plan on a counter. where the h@ll does those editors at ign get their info??? the last time i remember, there is no format war internationally with blu ray beating out HD DVD..and we are in the lead 2-1 with AWESOME titles coming out this 4th quarter

I think trend equates to the last 2 weeks? lol. 65-35 then 51-49! This week it will be 35-65! You gotta love statistics.

swifty7 · 11-02-2007, 03:09 PM

I wasn't even thinking of going neutral untill this deal came along, Toshiba beat me into submission by using price force. I will however still give blu preference over HD on future titles.

SpikesBluBlooded · 11-02-2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebar

I think trend equates to the last 2 weeks? lol. 65-35 then 51-49! This week it will be 35-65! You gotta love statistics.

Are you actually saying that you believe that DUD will WIN 35-65? Your other posted statistics indicate Blu-DUD, Blu-DUD numbers, soooo...

SpikesBluBlooded · 11-02-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swifty7

I wasn't even thinking of going neutral untill this deal came along, Toshiba beat me into submission by using price force. I will however still give blu preference over HD on future titles.

Not to be funny, but then why buy a DUD player in the first place? This time next year the titles that are exclusive to DUD will be available on Blu once this war ends, so why waste the money?

stockstar1138 · 11-02-2007, 03:59 PM

when Toshiba had the outstanding Father's Day sale where you could get an A2 for only $299. Then, when the price went back up to $399, sales completely halted for them, because $399 seemed way too expensive then. could we see a very similar situation out of this 98 bucks deal, will consumers look at $198 and say, I'll just wait, it'll come back down to 98 bucks then I'll pick one up. This Wal-Mart sale might be good for HD DVD short term, but it could really kill their holiday. Thoughts?

BTBuck1 · 11-02-2007, 04:35 PM

I figured i'd do my part to thwart HDDVD's attempt at new market share.

I bought two HD-A2's, 1 yestrerday at CC for $88 and one today at WM for $98, one for my sons room (upconvert basically) and one for my office (the occassional movie whil i task online etc.)

But they will see no new additional software sales/royalties from this. I will get the usual Universal or Paramount title I can't import but thats it.

I will however get my 10 free HDDVD's

When Toshiba loses...we win.

Sold the DVD players these replaced for $65 ea. I ended up out of pocket about $30 and get 10 movies...Why not I say.

Elandyll · 11-02-2007, 04:36 PM

Let me preface this by saying that yes, I bought a A2 this morning at Walmart.

Now before you start screaming, let me also say this: This player won't see the color red, as it will only get fed good ol' DVDs, I bought it to replace my ailing DVD player in the bedroom.

To tell the truth, at the moment, I do not own any HDTV (planning on changing that either this Xmas or at Spring, along with a PS3 or Panasonic DB30).

Now, what happened at Walmart, and the reason of my title.
A lot of people have reacted like crazy to this anounce (the $98 players), but let me tell you.
First thing I saw entering Walmart? A giant display of Spiderman trilogy / Spiderman 3 Blu Ray / DVDs

Then, after I turn a lot around, I finally find the rather cheap looking electronics section, and ask a (not very friendly) salesperson, "Hi! Do you guys have the HD DVD player at $98?"
Her to respond: "Yeah, get in line with the others."
And to point to a line in the back near the plasmas/LCD Tvs. At this point I think "#$#$^ .. didn't think there'd be that many people in a 7:55am."
But actually the line wasn't long at all. Maybe 20 peeps in front of me, 3 get behind me. Then someone asks in the line "Do you know how many they got?" "30." says another.
Me: "Crap. with my luck, I'll be 31 and this 'll just be a waste of my time "(like it was already hehe).
I finally arrive at the vendors (they were handing out a mix of laptops and HD DVDs mostly", but there were still at least 4-5 when it was my turn. I turn around, expecting to see a huge line behind me, but no.

The line was finishing about 6 people behind me.
So maybe a few didn't get their player, but the turnout was quite small I thought compared to what I expected.
Walmart had not received its crapy selection of HD titles at $14.95 (I heard a single guy asking for em), and on the way out the pathetic HD titles selection was hugely dominated by Blu ray Titles.

What amused me is, while waiting in line, I heard someone behind me saying "Yeah, Blu Ray is better. Can't wait for more affordable players".
And on the way to pick up the HD DVD from the vendors, the line was going in front of a Blu Ray player display, with a Sony BDS 300. Too bad it was at $488 though :/

So there you go. 30 people got one, very probably most to watch upconverted DVDs (I know mine won't see the color of a HD DVD) as I didn't see even one grab a HD DVD disc with it, and 4-6 probably got pissed off, but it was nothing to write home about. Well, maybe something to write here about, to let you guys know it's really nothing groundbreaking

stockstar1138 · 11-02-2007, 04:41 PM

you actually did a great thing this morning. you took a hd dvd out of a potential customer who would feed it red. software is what matters, obviously, otherwise tosh wouldn't be giving players away. what location is your wm?

Elandyll · 11-02-2007, 04:45 PM

It was the Walmart Superstore on Bell/US 60 near Phoenix

It serves the area of Surprise (one of the most rapidly growing young cities in the US), so I was indeed expecting a large turnout. Not so

Mericalis · 11-02-2007, 04:53 PM

I do mean this with the utmost sincerity and regards...congrats on your piece of junk. I too feel like stockstar that at least you kept it away from a potential future supporter of HD DUD.

Chris Beveridge · 11-02-2007, 04:56 PM

I've had an A1 since launch. Only bought one piece of software at launch and nothing else since. I've gotten a few review copies but that's about it. So I'm helping to skew the attach rate in my own way.

jsteinhauer · 11-02-2007, 04:57 PM

I said in another thread that I thought you wouldn't be able to get one, if you waited until lunch time.

11-02-2007, 02:53 PM	#1361
swifty7 Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:3	hd-dud beat me into submission, I couldn't resist.....I was forced and I ended up getting it for $98 from Wal-mart's 1 day sale. rest assured if a title/price were available for both formats, blu will be the one purchased. Last edited by swifty7; 11-02-2007 at 02:58 PM.

11-02-2007, 02:58 PM	#1365
turfman1964 Member Member since:Sep 2007	first post I have to agree with the first person that started this post. This is a worry. Sony should know this from Beta all those years ago. One and i say one not all of the things that drove people to VHS was the units where much cheaper even though Beta was some consider the better format. Sony really needs to answer with at least a 299 dollar player which Sony sales people as little as a month ago was saying would happen on black friday. Now they are backing off that and they really should not. I agree that the 98 dollar player does not need an answer. The answer needs to be for the 199 player with at 299 one. 100 dollars is close enough for the uneducated masses to still buy blu. Before anyone says i am a troll i will list my inventory below. 38 blu-ray movies HD-Dud 0 3 high def displays Samsung Hl-t6176 Samsung 4065 lcd Samsung 4095 lcd Blu-ray players BD-P1000 and BD-P1200

11-02-2007, 03:59 PM	#1373
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	Toshiba's sale price roller coaster... when Toshiba had the outstanding Father's Day sale where you could get an A2 for only $299. Then, when the price went back up to $399, sales completely halted for them, because $399 seemed way too expensive then. could we see a very similar situation out of this 98 bucks deal, will consumers look at $198 and say, I'll just wait, it'll come back down to 98 bucks then I'll pick one up. This Wal-Mart sale might be good for HD DVD short term, but it could really kill their holiday. Thoughts?

11-02-2007, 04:36 PM	#1375
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	Mucho Ado About Nothing Let me preface this by saying that yes, I bought a A2 this morning at Walmart. Now before you start screaming, let me also say this: This player won't see the color red, as it will only get fed good ol' DVDs, I bought it to replace my ailing DVD player in the bedroom. To tell the truth, at the moment, I do not own any HDTV (planning on changing that either this Xmas or at Spring, along with a PS3 or Panasonic DB30). Now, what happened at Walmart, and the reason of my title. A lot of people have reacted like crazy to this anounce (the $98 players), but let me tell you. First thing I saw entering Walmart? A giant display of Spiderman trilogy / Spiderman 3 Blu Ray / DVDs Then, after I turn a lot around, I finally find the rather cheap looking electronics section, and ask a (not very friendly) salesperson, "Hi! Do you guys have the HD DVD player at $98?" Her to respond: "Yeah, get in line with the others." And to point to a line in the back near the plasmas/LCD Tvs. At this point I think "#$#$^ .. didn't think there'd be that many people in a 7:55am." But actually the line wasn't long at all. Maybe 20 peeps in front of me, 3 get behind me. Then someone asks in the line "Do you know how many they got?" "30." says another. Me: "Crap. with my luck, I'll be 31 and this 'll just be a waste of my time "(like it was already hehe). I finally arrive at the vendors (they were handing out a mix of laptops and HD DVDs mostly", but there were still at least 4-5 when it was my turn. I turn around, expecting to see a huge line behind me, but no. The line was finishing about 6 people behind me. So maybe a few didn't get their player, but the turnout was quite small I thought compared to what I expected. Walmart had not received its crapy selection of HD titles at $14.95 (I heard a single guy asking for em), and on the way out the pathetic HD titles selection was hugely dominated by Blu ray Titles. What amused me is, while waiting in line, I heard someone behind me saying "Yeah, Blu Ray is better. Can't wait for more affordable players". And on the way to pick up the HD DVD from the vendors, the line was going in front of a Blu Ray player display, with a Sony BDS 300. Too bad it was at $488 though :/ So there you go. 30 people got one, very probably most to watch upconverted DVDs (I know mine won't see the color of a HD DVD) as I didn't see even one grab a HD DVD disc with it, and 4-6 probably got pissed off, but it was nothing to write home about. Well, maybe something to write here about, to let you guys know it's really nothing groundbreaking Last edited by Elandyll; 11-02-2007 at 04:39 PM.

11-02-2007, 04:53 PM	#1378
Mericalis Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Texas Blu-ray collection:232 DVD collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:5	I do mean this with the utmost sincerity and regards...congrats on your piece of junk. I too feel like stockstar that at least you kept it away from a potential future supporter of HD DUD. Last edited by Mericalis; 11-02-2007 at 04:57 PM. Reason: reworded for clarification. :-)

11-02-2007, 02:59 PM	#1366
tru2blu707 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007	you know whats funny...i read on an ign forum that HD DVD is picking up steam now and that blu ray needs to plan on a counter. where the h@ll does those editors at ign get their info??? the last time i remember, there is no format war internationally with blu ray beating out HD DVD..and we are in the lead 2-1 with AWESOME titles coming out this 4th quarter

11-02-2007, 03:09 PM	#1370
swifty7 Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:3	I wasn't even thinking of going neutral untill this deal came along, Toshiba beat me into submission by using price force. I will however still give blu preference over HD on future titles.

11-02-2007, 04:35 PM	#1374
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	I figured i'd do my part to thwart HDDVD's attempt at new market share. I bought two HD-A2's, 1 yestrerday at CC for $88 and one today at WM for $98, one for my sons room (upconvert basically) and one for my office (the occassional movie whil i task online etc.) But they will see no new additional software sales/royalties from this. I will get the usual Universal or Paramount title I can't import but thats it. I will however get my 10 free HDDVD's When Toshiba loses...we win. Sold the DVD players these replaced for $65 ea. I ended up out of pocket about $30 and get 10 movies...Why not I say.

11-02-2007, 04:41 PM	#1376
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	you actually did a great thing this morning. you took a hd dvd out of a potential customer who would feed it red. software is what matters, obviously, otherwise tosh wouldn't be giving players away. what location is your wm?

11-02-2007, 04:45 PM	#1377
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	It was the Walmart Superstore on Bell/US 60 near Phoenix It serves the area of Surprise (one of the most rapidly growing young cities in the US), so I was indeed expecting a large turnout. Not so

11-02-2007, 04:56 PM	#1379
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	I've had an A1 since launch. Only bought one piece of software at launch and nothing else since. I've gotten a few review copies but that's about it. So I'm helping to skew the attach rate in my own way.

11-02-2007, 04:57 PM	#1380
jsteinhauer Gaming Moderator Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:120 Trading Score:66	I said in another thread that I thought you wouldn't be able to get one, if you waited until lunch time.

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