Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

That makes more sense, but 40+ years is just short of madness.

There were reasons in the past that prevented such longevity in a format but those reasons are no longer valid (see my earlier post) so ANYTHING is possible now. I personally don't see a reason why my prediction can't become a reality... unless IBM blows us all up with their upcoming Skynet Computer:

http://www.dailytech.com/IBM+Propose...ticle10612.htm

"D" day

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Dragonraine

LOL, so you really think there wont be a storage format bigger than 50gb in the next 60+ years! OMGWTFBBQ! Someone will come out with something that has a higher capacity than BD and eventually things will move to that format. Most formats last for about 10-20 years. Hell, you still need to compress a movie to fit it onto BD. Until you can dump a movie onto a disc with no compression at all, there will always be a new format waiting in the wings.

Are you INSANE or something? When did I EVER talk about storage?

OBVIOUSLY higher storage formats FOR COMPUTERS will be released (probably every decade) but NONE of them will spawn a new movie format until the timelines outlined in my previous post for the reasons outlined in my previous post.

You enjoy putting words in people's mouths don't you?

[Dragonraine]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

Are you INSANE or something? When did I EVER talk about storage?

OBVIOUSLY higher storage formats FOR COMPUTERS will be released (probably every decade) but NONE of them will spawn a new movie format until the timelines outlined in my previous post for the reasons outlined in my previous post.

You enjoy putting words in people's mouths don't you?

Hell, i dont know what you have in your mouth! 4k is not 50 years away. Maybe for tv broadcast, but not for movies. Sony already has 4k projectors, that were like $90k. You think it will take Sony or whoever 50 YEARS to produce a 4k tv and format? Heres a nice article to enlighten you

http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=201202769

heres the nice relative comment

"Based on that 30-year-cycle theory, since NHK started working on Super Hi-Vision in 1995, the technology should be ready around 2025"

2025 is 17 years away. A far cry from your 60+ years.

[mightypen]

Unreal-

Why would the media and tech companies allow one format to live for 50 years when they can replace it after 10-15 years and have everyone rebuy all of their movies again, this time in whizzledoohdformatx with players starting at 1500$ and movies at 45$, as opposed to the 45$ players and 12$ movies?

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Dragonraine

Hell, i dont know what you have in your mouth! 4k is not 50 years away. Maybe for tv broadcast, but not for movies. Sony already has 4k projectors, that were like $90k. You think it will take Sony or whoever 50 YEARS to produce a 4k tv and format? LOL They already have 4k monitors out there!

IMHO opinion 4K will never become a "broadcast format" (evidence of Japan preparing for 8K broadcasts in 2025 STRONGLY supports this) and therefore the North American public will not replace their 2K HDTV's for 4K ones and by consequence 4K TV's will not achieve mass volume and become cheap enough for the public to care and therefore a new movie format based on 4K will NEVER happen (IMHO).

Perhaps a downloadable 4K movie format... but that is LAUGHABLE considering the quality of downloads today and for the foreseable future. Even if, some day, 4K movie downloads become available... I will not consider that as "the new format" because it will remain only with the highest of highest end niche enthousiasts as the masses won't have 4K TV's in their homes because there will NOT be 4K broadcasts.

The next broadcast and movie formats are going to be 8K.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by mightypen

Unreal-

Why would the media and tech companies allow one format to live for 50 years when they can replace it after 10-15 years and have everyone rebuy all of their movies again, this time in whizzledoohdformatx with players starting at 1500$ and movies at 45$, as opposed to the 45$ players and 12$ movies?

Because the public is NOT that stupid and requires a GOOD reason to spend their money. If the studios ever attempt to change simply for the sake of change... example: a new optical format capable of storing 10gigs/per disc comes out but the quality remains the same except Season sets now come on 1 disc...

Something like this would OUTRAGE the public... especially if the studios decide to discontinue Blu-Ray and FORCE people to buy the new format that has hardly anything more to offer.

There is going to have to be some VERY good reasons for a new format to establish itself or even be released... especially with the quality of Blu-Ray. Those reasons are FAR, FAR away... Donkey

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Dragonraine

http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=201202769

"Based on that 30-year-cycle theory, since NHK started working on Super Hi-Vision in 1995, the technology should be ready around 2025"

2025 is 17 years away. A far cry from your 60+ years.

The above agrees with my timeline... Explanation:

1) 2025 in Japan means 2040 in North America (Japan had HDTV in the 80's)

2) It takes 10 years for a new broadcast technology like this to establish a foot hold in people's homes (HDTV 1998-2008 for example) hence 2050 for the new 8K optical movie format to be released in North America.

3) Since Blu-Ray will have been around for 40+ years in 2050... even when the new 8K format is introduced, it will stick around for another 20 some odd years until it is discontinued and COMPLETELY replaced with the 8K format.

P.S. Good looking out with that article

2nd P.S. "Technology Nostradamus" types (not you) always try to point to new advances in technology like this being develloped (8K Super Hi-vision) as a sign that your current technology is allready obsolete
They are a bunch of retards trying to spead FUD and ONLY do it so you click on their articles and read them

[hardcore_canadian]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

Because the public is NOT that stupid and requires a GOOD reason to spend their money. If the studios ever attempt to change simply for the sake of change... example: a new optical format capable of storing 10gigs/per disc comes out but the quality remains the same except Season sets now come on 1 disc...

Something like this would OUTRAGE the public... especially if the studios decide to discontinue Blu-Ray and FORCE people to buy the new format that has hardly anything more to offer.

Ha, the Public is Idiots, first thing you learn in Marketing. They Will buy what people tell them too, and then ones that say "Good Enough is Good Enough" can have their mind changed easily.

And the next format, it could be anything.....not necessarily an Optical Format, then could be more compact, and you never know....better quality? You don't know what the future holds, except when you push reply, you know that people will be laughing at you soon

[mightypen]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

Because the public is NOT that stupid and requires a GOOD reason to spend their money. If the studios ever attempt to change simply for the sake of change... example: a new optical format capable of storing 10gigs/per disc comes out but the quality remains the same except Season sets now come on 1 disc...

Something like this would OUTRAGE the public... especially if the studios decide to discontinue Blu-Ray and FORCE people to buy the new format that has hardly anything more to offer.

I'm guessing whatever they come up with it, so long as Sony is in the group, you my friend will buy it, hook line and sinker, regardless of however marginal the improvement might be.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by hardcore_canadian

You don't know what the future holds, except when you push reply, you know that people will be laughing at you soon

HD DUD fans laughed at Blu-Ray all the time... look where they're at now

P.S. Only a coward witholds from giving his opinion for fear of being laughed at...

Laugh all you want... I'm glad to bring a smile to your day

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by mightypen

I'm guessing whatever they come up with it, so long as Sony is in the group, you my friend will buy it, hook line and sinker, regardless of however marginal the improvement might be.

FALSE. If Toshiba has the guts to come out with a format that has better specs and is able to rally other manufacturers around it and sign the studios to it... I will GLADLY support it... I just won't be buying the Toshiba brand player



P.S. My allegiance is to specs and studio support... not a company (even though I do HATE Microsoft). Should I pull out that picture again?... you know... "DA DEVIL"... Nah!... you guys have seen it enough for 1 week

[hardcore_canadian]

Originally Posted by mightypen

I'm guessing whatever they come up with it, so long as Sony is in the group, you my friend will buy it, hook line and sinker, regardless of however marginal the improvement might be.

Nah, more like, I like new technology, more for me to sell, more money for me to make

[Chazcov08]

Originally Posted by ikbradley

The idea of licensing and using a stationary unit is not typical for people who go to a friends house to watch movies. What are you going to do, relicense the movie at the friend's house. What about lending movies? What about watching it in a different room in the house. Network? Probably will require another license. It just doesn't work with typical patterns of viewing.
[/RANT]

And this is exactly why many people get around the system by doing their own thing. Why rely on the "proper" way to do things, when you can circumvent the process and do it yourself.

This is why piracy will always exist, and the DRM proponents fail to see this.

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by jubei29

Considering COMBINED HD-DVD/Blu Ray sales on a month per month basis didn't beat out VHS (impossible to even find these days) until August of 07, I'm saying it doesn't have enough time to catch standard DVD. Niche market is the best it'll be, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the hell out of it until the next big thing comes along. Tech moves a lot faster now a days compared to the VHS days.

VHS ----Laserdisc(bridged the gap)----DVD

DVD ----BluRay(bridged the gap)----????

VHS - first home video format so of course its popular
LD - non recordability and inconviniance (there huge and it takes 3 discs for one film)
DVD - mainly popular cos of there simularity to CDs which were of course popular and there high place in the console market
BD - same thing, similar to CD and DVD and recordability is coming out alot sooner than during the days of DVD

[Blu Haze]

Originally Posted by hardcore_canadian

Hahahahaha, Right.....65 Years My Ass. Even if it lasted a While, I'll give a 15-20 Year Maximum.

Rep that. 65 years. When i die i dont want to be i only had a Blu ray player never went to 3D etc.

[dieheart]

After they just ****ed over everyone who has a 100+ dvd collection, blu ray better last 10+ years period.

[thebrenn]

I think it would be safe to assume there will be older titles such as silent movies movies from the 30 - 40 that may never get released on BD since the source would be of such low quality it would do little or nothing to put out on BD

[BirdManJr]

Long as you have money to spend...They will make something new for you to buy

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by thebrenn

I think it would be safe to assume there will be older titles such as silent movies movies from the 30 - 40 that may never get released on BD since the source would be of such low quality it would do little or nothing to put out on BD

That and the SQ encode would probably suck, but I still have hopes for some of these later on as the format progresses.

[nycomet]

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

That and the SQ encode would probably suck, but I still have hopes for some of these later on as the format progresses.

Name some titles from that era that U want on BD. Little Rascals?