Sony UBP-X700 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Alister_M]

^The Robot is incorrect, the X-700 definitely internally decodes 7.1 DTS-HD and TrueHD to 7.1 PCM, and outputs it via both primary and secondary HDMI outputs. It doesn't do DVD-Audio though.

[jess1581]

I've friggin had it with this player. I've done everything, laser lens cleaner, cooling fan, open space to breathe, calibrated player settings, compressed air, microfiber cloths for 4k discs... This player just skips like hopscotch.

What else can I do before I just have to spring for a new player altogether?

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by jess1581

I've friggin had it with this player. I've done everything, laser lens cleaner, cooling fan, open space to breathe, calibrated player settings, compressed air, microfiber cloths for 4k discs... This player just skips like hopscotch.

What else can I do before I just have to spring for a new player altogether?

Then get a Panasonic.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Then get a Panasonic.

820? BB has it for $349 which is better at least than before.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by jess1581

820? BB has it for $349 which is better at least than before.

I have one and it has not let me down yet. It plays every disc that choked on the Sony. The only mark against the 820 is if I pause a UHD when I hit play again it will stutter for a second before starting again. Doesn't do this with BD or DVD. I also have the Panasonic DP-UB154P-K but it doesn't do Dolby Vision and isn't wireless. It also plays everything that I have thrown at it so far even without ever connecting it to the internet for firmware updates.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I have one and it has not let me down yet. It plays every disc that choked on the Sony. The only mark against the 820 is if I pause a UHD when I hit play again it will stutter for a second before starting again. Doesn't do this with BD or DVD. I also have the Panasonic DP-UB154P-K but it doesn't do Dolby Vision and isn't wireless. It also plays everything that I have thrown at it so far even without ever connecting it to the internet for firmware updates.

Ok, thank you for the input. Looks like I'll be going shopping next weekend.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by jess1581

What else can I do before I just have to spring for a new player altogether?

How old is it? I have the same unit, never had any serious problems except the odd layer change lock then I just pull the power cord and reset. I wonder as these players age does the lens just get way more picky. I always notice my discs are really hot more so than any other player, I'm guessing that will also cause locks. Try putting an icepack ontop of the unit when you play discs.

I'm waiting to grab an 820 when I see it hit $300, or if a better model comes out before that

[sapiendut]

820 will never drop to $300, that’s below cost.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

How old is it? I have the same unit, never had any serious problems except the odd layer change lock then I just pull the power cord and reset. I wonder as these players age does the lens just get way more picky. I always notice my discs are really hot more so than any other player, I'm guessing that will also cause locks. Try putting an icepack ontop of the unit when you play discs.

I'm waiting to grab an 820 when I see it hit $300, or if a better model comes out before that

Year and a half. Been dealing with glitches through more than half the time, but it was mostly just cleaning the disc and calibrating my player settings. Now it's just making almost every disc I pop in skip.

The thing about disc relayed glitches is that it at least has a consistency of error. When it's the player, the errors are like itches, you scratch one and another will show up elsewhere. Just gonna flex the wallet and get the 820. I've already done every economical solution. X700 is a shit player.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Year and a half. Been dealing with glitches through more than half the time, but it was mostly just cleaning the disc and calibrating my player settings. Now it's just making almost every disc I pop in skip.

The thing about disc relayed glitches is that it at least has a consistency of error. When it's the player, the errors are like itches, you scratch one and another will show up elsewhere. Just gonna flex the wallet and get the 820. I've already done every economical solution. X700 is a shit player.

I used to think HD DVD was annoying with scratches but my Toshibas still run flawless compared to UHD skipping on clean discs, all that packed data is pretty wild at times. Tbh my HD-A35 makes the X700 look like Fisher Price.

Originally Posted by sapiendut

820 will never drop to $300, that’s below cost.

Okay Nostradamus, then I simply won't get one, because that's my high end for a dedicated movie player. For $500 I will always buy another PS5/Series X/PC parts, it's just a way better value to me

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I have one and it has not let me down yet. It plays every disc that choked on the Sony. The only mark against the 820 is if I pause a UHD when I hit play again it will stutter for a second before starting again. Doesn't do this with BD or DVD. I also have the Panasonic DP-UB154P-K but it doesn't do Dolby Vision and isn't wireless. It also plays everything that I have thrown at it so far even without ever connecting it to the internet for firmware updates.

Dude, the 820 is a friggin beast. I'm beyond ecstatic. I checked the discs that gave me trouble on the x700, and now they purr like a kitten(figuratively). Thanks a whole lot, sincerely.

[vista-vision]

By the way setting your x700/x800 like this might reduce the chance of playback issues skip/freeze
4k upscaling set to off
cin conversion set to video

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by vista-vision

By the way setting your x700/x800 like this might reduce the chance of playback issues skip/freeze
4k upscaling set to off
cin conversion set to video

If you set it to video then it may not properly output film-based interlaced content, though that's so rare to be watching on disc these days that it doesn't really matter.

[benji888578]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If you set it to video then it may not properly output film-based interlaced content, though that's so rare to be watching on disc these days that it doesn't really matter.

I’ve wondered about this setting, so is this a dvd thing? I mean, idk, is there an example of a release that was done this way?

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by vista-vision

By the way setting your x700/x800 like this might reduce the chance of playback issues skip/freeze
4k upscaling set to off
cin conversion set to video

[Show spoiler]

Lol I've tried all these snake oil settings before, from my experience they don't reduce the chances of anything. I will say the player runs smoother with all internet stuff disabled that's definitely no joke. Also you want Auto on that conversion setting and not video.

Originally Posted by jess1581

Dude, the 820 is a friggin beast. I'm beyond ecstatic. I checked the discs that gave me trouble on the x700, and now they purr like a kitten(figuratively). Thanks a whole lot, sincerely.

Just wait till you see flickering DV discs, that player does have its own set of problems sadly.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Just wait till you see flickering DV discs, that player does have its own set of problems sadly.

Well what are the commonality of those with the 820 that the DV flickering happens? Is it something that started after awhile or right off the bat? Does it depend on the type of tv? I played 4 movies so far with DV and no flickering happened.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Well what are the commonality of those with the 820 that the DV flickering happens? Is it something that started after awhile or right off the bat? Does it depend on the type of tv? I played 4 movies so far with DV and no flickering happened.

I use 820 with my TCL C835 miniLED and 9000 with Panasonic GZ2000 OLED. I never really check whether I’m playing DV or HDR10 or HDR10+ but having watched a total of at least 300 4K movies on them (I watch more movies in my home theatre with projector), I never experienced flickering.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

I use 820 with my TCL C835 miniLED and 9000 with Panasonic GZ2000 OLED. I never really check whether I’m playing DV or HDR10 or HDR10+ but having watched a total of at least 300 4K movies on them (I watch more movies in my home theatre with projector), I never experienced flickering.

I researched a bit, and there was apparently a firmware update for that particular issue a bit ago. Honestly, considering the shit show that was my x700, who knows what results one will get with these players. There are those with the x700 who never had an issue of any kind.

The 820 plays my movies without any fault so far, so I can't feel too concerned about it.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by benji888578

I’ve wondered about this setting, so is this a dvd thing? I mean, idk, is there an example of a release that was done this way?

It just relates to the cadence of the source, whether it’s dealing with a video source with separate fields or a film source with complete frames (albeit still segmented into fields with an interlaced encode). If you apply the wrong cadence then you can end up with frames tearing, looking all jagged and whatnot. I’d just leave it set to Auto.

[dylrichard02]

I just got this player yesterday and so far have only had an opportunity to test a few discs. I love Dolby Vision so far. However, putting in an HDR10 disc last night, the player output in DV even during playback on the HDR10 disc. I didn't realize that DV wasn't automatically toggled on and off. Has anyone found that this actually does benefit playback of HDR10 discs?