Sony UBP-X700 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[sapiendut]

I don’t think the 450 has HCX processor for hdr optimizer and chroma upsampling though

[Diesel]

The 420 has the same “innards” as the 820, it just doesn’t have Dolby Vision. The 450 is a different model.

[sapiendut]

No it’s not. The disc drive is completely different, a much better disc drive is used in the 820. Different power supply and has no DV chip on the 420. People who claim they’re the same have never actually opened up the player and/or read the service manual.

[Diesel]

Neither of those two differences impact the performance

It has the same processor, HDR optimizer and picture quality performance based on every comparison out there that I’ve read through. Literally no reason for me to pay double the cost for the 820 if I buy another player.

[Scorxpion]

If anyone is interested in upgrading the power supply either for ub420 or ub820
https://pcaudio.tistory.com/601
https://pcaudio.tistory.com/598
I only upgrade mine to accept 220v as input

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Neither of those two differences impact the performance

It has the same processor, HDR optimizer and picture quality performance based on every comparison out there that I’ve read through. Literally no reason for me to pay double the cost for the 820 if I buy another player.

If you say so. Feel free to believe what you want to belueve.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Neither of those two differences impact the performance

It has the same processor, HDR optimizer and picture quality performance based on every comparison out there that I’ve read through. Literally no reason for me to pay double the cost for the 820 if I buy another player.

Correct as performance are equally the same but if you open and compare them there is a difference except for the hcx processor

[benji888578]

So time to say goodbye to my Sony X700, I made an unplanned purchase today, Best Buy early Black Friday sale on the Panny 820…I didn’t think it would drop below $400, as it didn’t last year, but I decided to get it while it’s $350, just in case that’s the low price of the year.

So, the Sony was not perfect but mostly works, and I read that, supposedly, changing some settings might help with read issues, so, question, thinking of donating it, who would need it more, local library or a school?

[Lincoln6Echo]

I recently got an x700 and am still trying to figure it out when it comes to Picture settings, HDR, etc. And to be honest, my old Oppo BDP-103 made regular 2K BDs look better than this x700 does with native 4k discs. Between the Contrast, Brightness, Color Levels, Enhanced Color setting, but most of all Sharpness settings, I had well authored BDs look better than anything I've seen so far. I only have a handful of 4K discs currently...(all 11 Star Wars films, all 4 Monster verse films, Apocalypse Now, and Transformers 5). I've found that by turning HDR Off, and just using the HDR conversion slider works for getting the best looking picture. When HDR is on, or when I'm streaming HDR material thru my Smart TV, the image is really bland, washed out, and does not appear to have this High Dynamic Range I thought HDR was supposed to give. I've got the Game of Thrones set on order (Black Friday deal for $100) and the new Avatar Collector's Editions coming out in a few weeks. I always try to use Avatar as a benchmark for my A/V set up.

[Paianni]

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

I recently got an x700 and am still trying to figure it out when it comes to Picture settings, HDR, etc. And to be honest, my old Oppo BDP-103 made regular 2K BDs look better than this x700 does with native 4k discs. Between the Contrast, Brightness, Color Levels, Enhanced Color setting, but most of all Sharpness settings, I had well authored BDs look better than anything I've seen so far. I only have a handful of 4K discs currently...(all 11 Star Wars films, all 4 Monster verse films, Apocalypse Now, and Transformers 5). I've found that by turning HDR Off, and just using the HDR conversion slider works for getting the best looking picture. When HDR is on, or when I'm streaming HDR material thru my Smart TV, the image is really bland, washed out, and does not appear to have this High Dynamic Range I thought HDR was supposed to give. I've got the Game of Thrones set on order (Black Friday deal for $100) and the new Avatar Collector's Editions coming out in a few weeks. I always try to use Avatar as a benchmark for my A/V set up.

Have you got a compliant 'Premium High Speed' HDMI cable and an HDMI 2.0 port on your TV? If you don't, the picture is probably being downgraded.

[benji888578]

Originally Posted by Paianni

Have you got a compliant 'Premium High Speed' HDMI cable and an HDMI 2.0 port on your TV? If you don't, the picture is probably being downgraded.

I agree with this.

[benji888578]

Sony 4K Player Freezing & Skipping? Try These Settings | Back to Basics #5

[Telemachus]

Don't donate da Sony you need a backup, what about your collection!! Buy some SACDs to play on it in the meantime Thriller was just back in print recently from mofi

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

I recently got an x700 and am still trying to figure it out when it comes to Picture settings, HDR, etc. And to be honest, my old Oppo BDP-103 made regular 2K BDs look better than this x700 does with native 4k discs. Between the Contrast, Brightness, Color Levels, Enhanced Color setting, but most of all Sharpness settings, I had well authored BDs look better than anything I've seen so far. I only have a handful of 4K discs currently...(all 11 Star Wars films, all 4 Monster verse films, Apocalypse Now, and Transformers 5). I've found that by turning HDR Off, and just using the HDR conversion slider works for getting the best looking picture. When HDR is on, or when I'm streaming HDR material thru my Smart TV, the image is really bland, washed out, and does not appear to have this High Dynamic Range I thought HDR was supposed to give. I've got the Game of Thrones set on order (Black Friday deal for $100) and the new Avatar Collector's Editions coming out in a few weeks. I always try to use Avatar as a benchmark for my A/V set up.

Make sure you've gone to the Options menu during playback and selected Direct for Picture Mode. That is the single most important setting that needs to changed on this player, the default Auto setting screws up the picture and adds automatic DNR Also in addition to having a good HDMI cable, make sure you set the TV's HDMI inputs to Enhanced.

[Lincoln6Echo]

Originally Posted by Paianni

Have you got a compliant 'Premium High Speed' HDMI cable and an HDMI 2.0 port on your TV? If you don't, the picture is probably being downgraded.

Yes I do, I'm using 22 Gbps HDMI cables that i bought when i got my 4K TV back in 2019, when this 4K player only suggests 18 Gbps. But 4K streaming directly from the Smart TV apps look the same as they were from the player. But never mind on all of this. I think I finally figured it out. The HDR ST.2084 Gamma Setting on my TV itself was set wrong. It runs from a -3 to a +3. Not sure what it was set on, but it looks like it was set on -3 after playing with it. I have put it on 0, and now the picture pops. Deep blacks and more life-like color. I kinda had a feeling it was something on my TV because the 4K streaming stuff looked like shit too.

[Editor's Note] I'm watching the GoTs 4K set as a testing source as I write this.

[Lincoln6Echo]

Originally Posted by Alister_M

Also in addition to having a good HDMI cable, make sure you set the TV's HDMI inputs to Enhanced.

I've looked for something like this, and I can't find anything like that in the menu.

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

I've looked for something like this, and I can't find anything like that in the menu.

What model of TV do you have?

[Lincoln6Echo]

Originally Posted by Alister_M

What model of TV do you have?

2019 Samsung UN55 RU8000FXZA (8 series)

The only thing I can find in the menu that might be anything close to an Enhanced HDMI setting is Input Signal Plus, and it is selected as On for the HDMI Input I have everything connected to. It's HDMI 4 which is my HDMI ARC input. I'm running my Surround Receiver to my TV and that's it. The X700 and my DISH joey are the only other devices that are hooked to my receiver.

But like I said in my previous posts, the problem with the bland, washed out HDR image was the Gamma Setting on the TV itself, not anything with the X700.. It was showing 0 in the -3 to +3 slide, but was actually exhibiting the appearance of -3. I fixed the problem by just sliding the slider up and down again, and it reset the image to what it is supposed to be at 0. I just watched Kong: Skull Island and I was blown away by it's HDR image. Holy crap! I'm now fully in love with 4K HDR. Too bad by TV doesn't support Dolby Vision. At least I don't think it does. I haven't tried that setting on the X700 yet.

But yeah, whenever this TV detects an HDR signal, it switches Picture Modes and the Gamms Setting is different among the modes, and for the HDR setting it was not appearing properly, like i explained above. Because whenever I woukd stream 4K stuff from like Disney+ for example, the picture was bland and didn't pop. I bet now if I go back and watch the Star Wars shows, it'll pop.

[guizhang]

quick question

looking for a region free uhd player (the region free part being for blu-rays)

is the one at 220-electronics the one to get?

https://www.220-electronics.com/sony...ay-player.html

also needing dolby vision. does anyone have it from 220 that can confirm dolby vision works?

thanks

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by guizhang

quick question

looking for a region free uhd player (the region free part being for blu-rays)

is the one at 220-electronics the one to get?

https://www.220-electronics.com/sony...ay-player.html

also needing dolby vision. does anyone have it from 220 that can confirm dolby vision works?

thanks

I'm not familiar with that modding company, but that model in question does have Dolby Vision you have to toggle it on/off manually, but it can't be on if you need HDR10.