Sony UBP-X700 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Bodyslide]

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

I'm really thinking of getting this since its only $179 but I currently have the X800. Reason why I want this is the Dolby Vision capability alone.

Worth getting for DV alone? I need some advice.

I decided to get the 700, even though I just bought the 800 back in Jan. I wanted to be able to view the DV from the discs. So I bought the 700 about a month ago. So far no issues with it. I'm going to either move the 800 to my bedroom or sale it.

[jibucha]

i am confused with your post (no criticism implied/intended)

clarifying? :: if original full profile, then both the display/player have to support 'full profile'

clarifying? :: if low-latency profile, then both the display/player have to support 'low-latency profile'

important? :: you cannot mix them, if either display/player does not have the 'same' profile supported, then it will not work - simple enough?

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Read on the Sony 930e TV AVS Forum today.
After Sept IFA. The 930e will be full Dolby Vision. Not Low Latency DV. Not sure how true AVS Forum discussion is.

If Sony x930e TV goes full Dolby Vision. Whats the proper setting for the x700 player? Set DV off? And then pop in a DV disc?

Apparently OPPO 203 now have an Official FW for Sony DV TV's. Think it will have a DV set on, set off feature. Not sure if it will mirror that of the Sony x700. Im not FW updating my OPPO 203 till theres lots more discussion from forums on this.

Peoples on forums are talking let the TV do the DV(guess that means TV is not low latency DV).
Or let the disc player do the DV(Guess that means the player do full DV, ie., recient x700 FW). Peoples can choose.
But after IFA 2018 in Sept... its going to be complicated for some Sony DV TV's will no longer be low latency DV. Disc player settings may need change. And if both your TV and Disc Player have full DV... you must decide which one will do the Full DV.

I have the LG OLEDs which is doing the Full DV now. So thus I don't want the disc player to do the full DV. Does that mean after IFA 2018 if I have the x700 then I need to turn off its full DV capability?

[jibucha]

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[jibucha]

LG UBK90 :: if you're interested in Dolby Vision (quite affordable & best available picture quality - Dolby Vision out-of-the-box); i highly recommend consideration of this player (at this point in time) :: easy to use and reliable

note :: thank you (E6AtmosVuduDV) for the model number correction (originally i had it incorrect - dumb mistake on my part)

note (E6AtmosVuduDV) :: while i am not currently 100% certain, it seems that the Dolby Vision (profiles) are incompatible (player/display) - (what do you think?) - (what display(s) are/were you using it on? - i have forgotten what displays you have)

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

One of the reasons I'D returned the Sony x700 was because Im not happy with its "Forced DV". I feel it's PQ looks very Odd(Very much so from x700's Vudu App movies). Its not defective. Its just Marketing.

[Leonidas King]

Originally Posted by Bodyslide

I decided to get the 700, even though I just bought the 800 back in Jan. I wanted to be able to view the DV from the discs. So I bought the 700 about a month ago. So far no issues with it. I'm going to either move the 800 to my bedroom or sale it.

Thanks.

Looking at your signature if I decide to get the X700 we will have all three players lol. I own the X800 and Sammy’s K8500

[jibucha]

suggestion? :: get the LG UBK90? :: remarkable picture quality, out-of-the-box Dolby Vision, without any issues - currently, as far as i know :: and, LG-to-LG should be a good fit?

by the way; nice display

note :: thank you (E6AtmosVuduDV) for the model number correction (originally i had it incorrect - dumb mistake on my part)

Originally Posted by rocklobster

Would anyone be so kind as to provide a rundown of this player for me (Pros and Cons)? I currently have an XBP-800, but have thought of getting this because of the DV support (to go with my LG SJ8500), and I do plan on getting additional 4K TV's when I move into my girlfriend's house in December (so I wouldn't necessarily be getting rid of the XBP800)

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Jibucha

On Sony DV TV's. Low Latency DV is supported there. TV Does as miniumum DV as just needed. The brunt work is done by the x700 disc player. So by my terminology... the x700 does FULL DV. The Sony DV TV do not do FULL DV. Which is why Sony DV TV is referred to as Low Latency DV Profile.

On LG DV players it does minimum DV processing. It sends this minimum DV processed to the LG DV OLED. At this LG TV it does Full DV processing.

Sony DV TV does low latency DV. X700 don't. It does full DV.

Note the word profile was not used.

After IFA 2018 September. If any Sony DV TV's becomes having Full DV processed. Then even the LG UP970, UBK90 can play DV disc onto those Sony DV TV thats no longer emcumbered with low latency DV.

Will Sony x700 need any modification after IFA 2018? Thats a good question.

I've read x700 reviews, forum posts indicating x700 set on DV switch, set off DV switch is not very popular.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Jibucha.

Its LG UBK90. There is no LG BDK90 in USA.

[Doctor Jack]

What should I have my 48/96/192 KHz pcm set to? What’s the difference between the three?

[i007spectre]

Does everyone her just have all the video settings that can be set in the menu on Auto?

[VIDEOgameDROME]

Is this player region free for blu-ray? and do you still have to manually toggle to dolby vision? I've been trying to decide between this and the LG UP970--it needs to have DV and upscale regular blu-rays to 4K. Just got a Sony X900F 65" 4K TV and I need to know if the Dolby Vision will actually be up to snuff.

I would have much rather preferred to have gotten a new Sony console that does all this but they've certainly dropped the ball with the PS4 Pro in that department.

[jibucha]

thank you (i do believe that i have 'always had it wrong', which is why i never realized it until you were kind enough to bring it to my attention) - (what was i thinking?) - i do appreciate it and will be more careful in the future - thanks again

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Jibucha.

Its LG UBK90. There is no LG BDK90 in USA.

[jibucha]

question (Sony UBP-X700) :: does anyone know (for certain) whether the Sony UBP-X700 supports both Dolby Vision profiles (original full profile & low-latency profile)?

meaning :: will Dolby Vision work on an LG OLED that supports Dolby Vision (i have simply forgot and need to refresh my memory)

please :: only respond if you know for a fact and have personally confirmed, one way or the other - ok?

thank you

[jibucha]

i disagree (entirely) & (quite a confusing 'explanation/understanding' - as i perceive it)

Dolby Vision (original full profile) :: must be available on both display/player

Dolby Vision (low-latency profile) :: must be available on both display/player

they are incompatible and will not work together (original full profile & low-latency profile)

unless both the display/or/player independently support 'both profiles' - they will not work together

specifically, the player (universally with 'all' Dolby Vision displays) unless 'it' supports both profiles, then it does not matter which display (profile) is available

so :: unless the UBP-X700 supports both profiles (original full profile & low-latency profile) it will only work with Sony displays :: if it does work (for example) with LG OLED's then it would have to have support for both profiles (simple enough?)

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Jibucha

On Sony DV TV's. Low Latency DV is supported there. TV Does as miniumum DV as just needed. The brunt work is done by the x700 disc player. So by my terminology... the x700 does FULL DV. The Sony DV TV do not do FULL DV. Which is why Sony DV TV is referred to as Low Latency DV Profile.

On LG DV players it does minimum DV processing. It sends this minimum DV processed to the LG DV OLED. At this LG TV it does Full DV processing.

Sony DV TV does low latency DV. X700 don't. It does full DV.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Jibucha
My post #786 above.

Playing two DV Disc movies with Sony x700 onto my LG E6 OLED. No black screen.

If I recalled correctly. From x700... DV disc played onto my LG G6 OLED too. However the G6 will not display Sony x700 main/setup menu with apps icons, etc. Just displays a black dark screen. After just waiting a few minutes the DV Movies pops over the black screen amd proceeds to play the Movie

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Jibucha
My post #731 above. Playing DV Disc with x700 onto LG E6 OLED.

X700 HDR setting on auto.
X700 setting... set DV on!

Doing that... the LG OLED DV Badge pops out on the top right of TV Screen.

I believe when at x700 settings... when I did "set DV off" then the HDR Badge popped up on my LG OLED Screen. This happens playing DV Disc on the x700

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Jibucha
My post #788 above.

Playing HDR10 4K Disc Thor Ragnabok on x700.
With X700 HDR setting on auto.
With x700 setting Set DV On.

DV Badge pops out on LG OLED

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Jibucha

You might see https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...-oppo-respond/

Sony DV TV's do light DV processing. LG DV TVs do Heavy DV processing.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...bit-of-a-mess/

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For this low latency profile to work, OPPO says more pre-processing duties are placed on the source devices, whereas with other manufacturers, most of the processing work is undertaken on the TVs side.

from article https://www.avforums.com/news/sony-d...lf-baked.14501

Note from that article...

According to OPPO, who have communicated with some of its US based customers, Sony has adopted what they are calling a ‘low latency’ Dolby Vision profile, created specifically by Dolby to implement in Sony TVs

Thus low latency dolby vision actually resides on the Sony TV(implemented on in the Sony TV). The Sony disc player will have to DO the heavy DV work. Not sure what that processing is called. I just referred to it as full DV.

[Lush23]

Originally Posted by jibucha

question (Sony UBP-X700) :: does anyone know (for certain) whether the Sony UBP-X700 supports both Dolby Vision profiles (original full profile & low-latency profile)?

meaning :: will Dolby Vision work on an LG OLED that supports Dolby Vision (i have simply forgot and need to refresh my memory)

please :: only respond if you know for a fact and have personally confirmed, one way or the other - ok?

thank you

Not sure about the profiles, but I do have an LG OLED and the x700 and DV is perfect on it...

[Lush23]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

What should I have my 48/96/192 KHz pcm set to? What’s the difference between the three?

I choose 48khz... Let me know if this video helps you out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qdJ...ature=youtu.be