Sony UBP-X700 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 43 - Blu-ray Forum

streckfus · 07-06-2018, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

No. My x800 had the odd hiccup, but the x700 has been sound.

Good to hear....how long have you had the X700?

Fat Phil · 07-06-2018, 03:19 PM

I've been using Sony blu-ray players for more than a decade now (probably had six or seven in that time - currently own three) and each and every one of them occasionally freaks out. But i'm sure I clock up far more hours on these things than Sony had in mind.

I happily tolerate their sporadic eccentricities because 99% of the time they work purrrficly. I've noticed it's about once every three months a player will just go "Nope! Go f*** yourself." and freeze. It's nothing a hard reset doesn't fix, then she'll run like a dream for another three months or so. 5500 did it, 6500 did it, X800 does it (though less frequently) so i'd be surprised if the X700 doesn't do it too. In hundreds of hours of use, the occasional freeze is nothing to fear.

Nothing371 · 07-06-2018, 03:28 PM

I'd say the freeze isn't a big deal, but it is on my x800 because it loses all of its settings. When it freezes and you pull the plug you have to redo the initial setup and internet settings.

But after doing some reading on here, I turned off all the stuff that directs additional power to the x800 and it hasn't frozen since. Turned off the auto-start, the power saving, no more internet to the machine, or anything that redirects more cross-hardware compatibility or power to the player and it doesn't seem to freeze now.

When the freeze would happen to me, the green light would come on while the system was powered down and not in use. But you'd have a black screen and no control.

MerrickG · 07-07-2018, 04:01 PM

I have the X700 paired with my LG B7A OLED and I was wondering if in the [YCbCr/RGB (HDMI)] I should leave the player set at Auto, YCbCr422, YCbCr 444 or RGB.

I am inclined to believe that I would get the best image if I set the LG OLED HDMI Black Level to High and set the X700 to YCbCr 444.

Thoughts?

sapiendut · 07-07-2018, 05:46 PM

I think it works. You can try which one you like better 4:4:4 (player is doing the upsampling) or 4:2:0 (TV is doing the upsampling)

Staying Salty · 07-07-2018, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MerrickG

I have the X700 paired with my LG B7A OLED and I was wondering if in the [YCbCr/RGB (HDMI)] I should leave the player set at Auto, YCbCr422, YCbCr 444 or RGB.

I am inclined to believe that I would get the best image if I set the LG OLED HDMI Black Level to High and set the X700 to YCbCr 444.

Thoughts?

Why do I need to know what "HDMI 4K/24 YCbCr 4:2:2 12-bit HDR10 BT.2020" means (FAQ)

sapiendut · 07-07-2018, 07:45 PM

4K/24 means 4k resolution at 24 frames per second

4:2:2 is chroma subsampling. To compress the colour signal, on the disc it’s 4:2:0. Then the player (or the display) converts it back to 4:4:4 or RGB
12-bit is the colour depth (gradation). Natively DVD and BD and 8-bit so you can easily see colour banding. UHD is at 10-bit with faaaaaar less colour banding. 12-bit is currently means the 10-bit colour depth is being proceseed and dithered to 12-bit to eliminate all colour banding

BT2020 is the colourspace container which can contain BT601 (regular NTSC), BT709 (HD) and currently P3 for UHD discs. In the future studio can use even larger colour space but still within the BT2020 colour space

HDR10 is the standard HDR for UHD which works in 10-bit domain. Dolby Vision, HDR10+, Technicolor HDR, etc are optiinal extra should the studio wants to use them. HDR10 is a must and part if UHD disc spec.

LordoftheRings · 07-07-2018, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MerrickG

I have the X700 paired with my LG B7A OLED and I was wondering if in the [YCbCr/RGB (HDMI)] I should leave the player set at Auto, YCbCr422, YCbCr 444 or RGB.

I am inclined to believe that I would get the best image if I set the LG OLED HDMI Black Level to High and set the X700 to YCbCr 444.

Thoughts?

Auto.

FilmFreakosaurus · 07-07-2018, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapiendut

4K/24 means 4k resolution at 24 frames per second

4:2:2 is chroma subsampling. To compress the colour signal, on the disc it’s 4:2:0. Then the player (or the display) converts it back to 4:4:4 or RGB
12-bit is the colour depth (gradation). Natively DVD and BD and 8-bit so you can easily see colour banding. UHD is at 10-bit with faaaaaar less colour banding. 12-bit is currently means the 10-bit colour depth is being proceseed and dithered to 12-bit to eliminate all colour banding

BT2020 is the colourspace container which can contain BT601 (regular NTSC), BT709 (HD) and currently P3 for UHD discs. In the future studio can use even larger colour space but still within the BT2020 colour space

HDR10 is the standard HDR for UHD which works in 10-bit domain. Dolby Vision, HDR10+, Technicolor HDR, etc are optiinal extra should the studio wants to use them. HDR10 is a must and part if UHD disc spec.

However, whenever 12 bit Dolby Vision enhancement layer encoding is utilized on disc, it supposedly is coming from a full 12 bit master. Once consumer displays have true 12 bit processing (rather than 10 bit or 8 bit + FRC) then the benefits will be even more apparent. DV can also use the ICtCp sampling protocol if a studio chooses to use it rather than the older component standard.

Frank@Chicago · 07-09-2018, 12:06 AM

Has anyone done a YouTube teardown of X800 or X700?.

It would be fascinating to see the differences and similarities.

I'd love to know what exactly produces that DV Secret Sauce.

One time I saw a teardown of PS4 Slim vs. Pro, it was quite interesting.

Doctor Jack · 07-14-2018, 12:34 AM

Does anyone else get random out of sync moments with this player? It happens and then goes away a few seconds later. Wondering if my player is faulty.

moparbob · 07-14-2018, 08:28 PM

Does anybody have video setting for this?

My Onkyo NR757 displays the video as 4:4:4 36 bit. I have Deep color on if I take if off it displays it as 24 bit even on HDR. My Samsung K8500 player reads it as 30 bit with deep color off.

Also my receiver displays RGB when in Dolby Vision

Also just got the LG OLED 65” C8

Gogoplata1980 · 07-16-2018, 05:15 PM

Sold.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-16-2018, 11:41 PM

Why sell?

Did you buy it for a Sony DV TV.

Brand-new. You mean never used? Never taken out of the box?

Gogoplata1980 · 07-17-2018, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Why sell?

Did you buy it for a Sony DV TV.

Brand-new. You mean never used? Never taken out of the box?

Brand-new. Never taken out of the box. I got a deal on one. That’s all.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-17-2018, 02:19 AM

Good Price

buckeye1 · 07-23-2018, 03:11 AM

Somehow my player says its connected to my internet but when I went to one of my apps it says network error please connect to the internet...

I turned it off and back on same thing. Went back to reconnect same issue. Is this a common issue and how can I fix this?

weberrygt · 07-23-2018, 02:39 PM

I have had the the x700 for less than a week now, and we are doing all the Mission Impossible movies, all DV. When we went to watch Blockers BD (which of course has no HDR and thus no DV being a blu-ray), the DV tag popped up on the B6 OLED. This happened during the previews. Is this normal?

I of course have the DV setting to on. Will I see this tag each time we watch any movie?

Thanks!

Bodyslide · 07-23-2018, 02:42 PM

Yes the DV will show on everything until you turn it off. Hopefully the Sony will get a firmware update that Auto detects the DV from the Disc. It's a slight annoyance to have to turn it off after watching a real Dolby Vision Movie.

weberrygt · 07-23-2018, 02:56 PM

Ok, thanks! Is it recommended to turn off DV when watching a non DV disc?

I just checked - my info screen shows 1080p / HDR. I never checked the info on a BD on my 800, but does a BD always have some layer of HDR applied? What setting is recommended?

Also, what does everybody do in terms of 4k upscaling? I have my x700 set to off, which allows the TV to do the upscaling.

07-16-2018, 05:15 PM	#853
Gogoplata1980 Member Member since:Oct 2016 Trading Score:2	Sold. Last edited by Gogoplata1980; 07-17-2018 at 01:58 AM.

07-16-2018, 11:41 PM	#854
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Why sell? Did you buy it for a Sony DV TV. Brand-new. You mean never used? Never taken out of the box? Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 07-16-2018 at 11:49 PM.

07-06-2018, 03:19 PM	#842
Fat Phil Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:829 Blu-ray collection:829 Trading Score:1	I've been using Sony blu-ray players for more than a decade now (probably had six or seven in that time - currently own three) and each and every one of them occasionally freaks out. But i'm sure I clock up far more hours on these things than Sony had in mind. I happily tolerate their sporadic eccentricities because 99% of the time they work purrrficly. I've noticed it's about once every three months a player will just go "Nope! Go f*** yourself." and freeze. It's nothing a hard reset doesn't fix, then she'll run like a dream for another three months or so. 5500 did it, 6500 did it, X800 does it (though less frequently) so i'd be surprised if the X700 doesn't do it too. In hundreds of hours of use, the occasional freeze is nothing to fear.

07-06-2018, 03:28 PM	#843
Nothing371 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2015 Location:Minneapolis 4K collection:526 Blu-ray collection:1047 Trading Score:11	I'd say the freeze isn't a big deal, but it is on my x800 because it loses all of its settings. When it freezes and you pull the plug you have to redo the initial setup and internet settings. But after doing some reading on here, I turned off all the stuff that directs additional power to the x800 and it hasn't frozen since. Turned off the auto-start, the power saving, no more internet to the machine, or anything that redirects more cross-hardware compatibility or power to the player and it doesn't seem to freeze now. When the freeze would happen to me, the green light would come on while the system was powered down and not in use. But you'd have a black screen and no control.

07-07-2018, 04:01 PM	#844
MerrickG Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2007 Location:College Station, TX Blu-ray reviews:2	I have the X700 paired with my LG B7A OLED and I was wondering if in the [YCbCr/RGB (HDMI)] I should leave the player set at Auto, YCbCr422, YCbCr 444 or RGB. I am inclined to believe that I would get the best image if I set the LG OLED HDMI Black Level to High and set the X700 to YCbCr 444. Thoughts?

07-07-2018, 05:46 PM	#845
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	I think it works. You can try which one you like better 4:4:4 (player is doing the upsampling) or 4:2:0 (TV is doing the upsampling)

07-07-2018, 07:45 PM	#847
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	4K/24 means 4k resolution at 24 frames per second 4:2:2 is chroma subsampling. To compress the colour signal, on the disc it’s 4:2:0. Then the player (or the display) converts it back to 4:4:4 or RGB 12-bit is the colour depth (gradation). Natively DVD and BD and 8-bit so you can easily see colour banding. UHD is at 10-bit with faaaaaar less colour banding. 12-bit is currently means the 10-bit colour depth is being proceseed and dithered to 12-bit to eliminate all colour banding BT2020 is the colourspace container which can contain BT601 (regular NTSC), BT709 (HD) and currently P3 for UHD discs. In the future studio can use even larger colour space but still within the BT2020 colour space HDR10 is the standard HDR for UHD which works in 10-bit domain. Dolby Vision, HDR10+, Technicolor HDR, etc are optiinal extra should the studio wants to use them. HDR10 is a must and part if UHD disc spec.

07-09-2018, 12:06 AM	#850
Frank@Chicago Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2013 Blu-ray reviews:1	Has anyone done a YouTube teardown of X800 or X700?. It would be fascinating to see the differences and similarities. I'd love to know what exactly produces that DV Secret Sauce. One time I saw a teardown of PS4 Slim vs. Pro, it was quite interesting.

07-14-2018, 12:34 AM	#851
Doctor Jack Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2013 Trading Score:230	Does anyone else get random out of sync moments with this player? It happens and then goes away a few seconds later. Wondering if my player is faulty.

07-14-2018, 08:28 PM	#852
moparbob Expert Member Member since:Apr 2010 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:9 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Does anybody have video setting for this? My Onkyo NR757 displays the video as 4:4:4 36 bit. I have Deep color on if I take if off it displays it as 24 bit even on HDR. My Samsung K8500 player reads it as 30 bit with deep color off. Also my receiver displays RGB when in Dolby Vision Also just got the LG OLED 65” C8

07-17-2018, 02:19 AM	#856
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Good Price

07-23-2018, 03:11 AM	#857
buckeye1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Northwest, Ohio 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:284 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:55	Somehow my player says its connected to my internet but when I went to one of my apps it says network error please connect to the internet... I turned it off and back on same thing. Went back to reconnect same issue. Is this a common issue and how can I fix this?

07-23-2018, 02:39 PM	#858
weberrygt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2013	I have had the the x700 for less than a week now, and we are doing all the Mission Impossible movies, all DV. When we went to watch Blockers BD (which of course has no HDR and thus no DV being a blu-ray), the DV tag popped up on the B6 OLED. This happened during the previews. Is this normal? I of course have the DV setting to on. Will I see this tag each time we watch any movie? Thanks!

07-23-2018, 02:42 PM	#859
Bodyslide Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Woodstock Georgia 4K collection:91 Blu-ray collection:819 DVD collection:76 Trading Score:33	Yes the DV will show on everything until you turn it off. Hopefully the Sony will get a firmware update that Auto detects the DV from the Disc. It's a slight annoyance to have to turn it off after watching a real Dolby Vision Movie.

07-23-2018, 02:56 PM	#860
weberrygt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2013	Ok, thanks! Is it recommended to turn off DV when watching a non DV disc? I just checked - my info screen shows 1080p / HDR. I never checked the info on a BD on my 800, but does a BD always have some layer of HDR applied? What setting is recommended? Also, what does everybody do in terms of 4k upscaling? I have my x700 set to off, which allows the TV to do the upscaling.

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