HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

To those readers who couldn’t/didn’t attend yesterday’s SMPTE Educational webinar titled “HDR: PQ and HLG – Presented by the BBC”, as that (unlike Lars’s presentation on the last page) was restricted to SMPTE members or non-members for a fee….

without me infringing upon that exclusivity, this is the best I can offer…..

Start at FAQ #13….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/sites/50335f..._HDRTV_FAQ.pdf

[Penton-Man]

Beyond Definition:
People are thinking there is great potential for HDR Golf…..





even more so than for football or baseball - http://www.provideocoalition.com/gol...asite-storage/

[Geoff D]

Sony love using that event as an excuse to shoot some eye candy, I remember seeing it on demo HD footage in-store years ago, a bit with Sergio Garcia (I think?) almost getting a hole in one is burned into my brain from seeing it so many times.

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Start at FAQ #13….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/sites/50335f..._HDRTV_FAQ.pdf

Very nice, and I wondered when the BBC would release a detailed paper on HLG.

[Penton-Man]

For some reason , today, women nationally as well as internationally are on my mind (and all the goodness they do). So, with regards to…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post13120373

I missed the webinar on Wednesday due to time zone differences, but have now accessed her (https://www.linkedin.com/in/virginie-drugeon-5414b94) slides, so for those who haven’t seen the entire set as it pertains to UHD phase 2….https://www.dvb.org/resources/public...dvbwebinar.pdf

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sony love using that event as an excuse to shoot some eye candy, I remember seeing it on demo HD footage in-store years ago....

Yes, Sony has put concerted effort into the production of that event which in years past has been a proving ground for Sony’s latest technology….

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

....burned into my brain

zee brain, as seen on the laptop in the foreground….



is a fascinating organ and has served as a fundamental vehicle for the plot of many movies, e.g. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...cy#post9484943

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

e.g. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...cy#post9484943

That particular AANS meeting that the Brain Sturgeon is referring to in the hyperlink of thee above post was at the Hotel Del and for those who’ve never visited San Diego, but may be planning vacationing there someday in the future, if you stay there or walk along the beach, once in the while, you’ll see real Navy Seals training.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

Very nice, and I wondered when the BBC would release a detailed paper on HLG.

Next week, Andy (about 1/3 of the way down the page - https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/events/prod...s2017_bios.pdf ) should. by proof of concept, provide a little more boost to the HLG format with Planet Earth 2.

Gotta run now to watch me some…..http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/chinas...er-powerhouse/ , but still coming out of the Premier League from England.

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post10107534

C’mon Kris Deering ^, now it’s your turn to get to the real goods here (I did my exclusivity revelation part as that finishing info for OAS:TNC is still, to this day, not revealed on imdb…..http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2872570/...ef_=tt_dt_spec).

If you weren’t out being part of making history yesterday with your wife and daughter(s)?, did you at least attend the Stacey Spears high rez (somewhat HDR too) imagery get together that I heard about up thar in the NW?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If you weren’t out being part of making history yesterday with your wife and daughter(s)?, did you at least attend the Stacey Spears high rez (somewhat HDR too) imagery get together that I heard about up thar in the NW?

I guess not ….and I needed an in person Monday morning news fix to what they covered.

Oh well, onward to something else. With all this recent HLG love on the past couple posts, I guess we should give a plug to Dolby Vision, for balance. I’ll try to think of something along that line later. Somebody PM me one of those Dolby Vision YouTubes that maybe we can comment on. I like YouTube.

[DanBa]

Scott Wilkinson also gives a plug for Dolby Vision:

"Why is support for Dolby Vision important? In my opinion, Dolby Vision is better than HDR10, primarily because DV uses dynamic metadata, whereas HDR10 uses static metadata.
...
As I mentioned earlier, the open SMPTE standard for HDR, commonly called HDR10, is being updated to include dynamic metadata as specified in ST.2094, but it requires HDMI 2.1 to convey from one device to another—which, in turn, requires new hardware to support the higher bandwidth, and it won’t be available in consumer products for about a year.

Isn’t this just another format war?
No; just as different audio formats like Dolby Atmos and DTS:X can be implemented within AVRs and other audio devices, so can various HDR formats coexist within displays and players.
Thus, it doesn’t matter what HDR format a given program uses; a player and display that implements multiple formats can accommodate the content and display it to its best advantage."
http://www.avsforum.com/dolby-vision...h-at-ces-2017/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

Scott Wilkinson also gives a plug for Dolby Vision:

Is he the guy, or was it the other writer they have over there? what’s his handle…’magic’? that skewered our Insider Robert Zohn over the quality of Robert’s last TV shootout? Problem is I'm told they rarely if ever make reference to Blu-ray.com but the folks here commonly post links to that forum. Not fair.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Somebody PM me one of those Dolby Vision YouTubes that maybe we can comment on. I like YouTube.

^ Well, someone indulged me as to a Youtube .

Question from the reporter at CES 2017: So they wouldn’t need to get the Dolby Vision modes calibrated?

New Dolby Vision and Atmos products for 2017 - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

^ Specifically…“So there is that option as well, it’s not absolutely necessary….we’ve seen that the way we work with these manufacturers is that we calibrate these modes pretty well and then what you want to compensate for is really the variation in the manufacturing process”, from

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F18MzcJdL7U#t=9m1s

So, the way I read that is if there is insignificant variation in the manufacturing process between Dolby Vision capable HDR TVs of a manufacturer, then for hobbyists it’s not absolutely necessary to have this mode calibrated.

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Is he the guy, or was it the other writer they have over there? what’s his handle…’magic’? that skewered our Insider Robert Zohn over the quality of Robert’s last TV shootout? Problem is I'm told they rarely if ever make reference to Blu-ray.com but the folks here commonly post links to that forum. Not fair.

I think he is friendly with Robert.

I am used to posting on AVS with links to Blu-ray.com.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

I am used to posting on AVS with links to Blu-ray.com.

To this exact thread? or the 4K Movies Releases thread?
Then you must be an anomaly.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

a plug for

HLG

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

He (Lars <- P-M edit) mentions that he doesn't know of anything that uses ICtCp.

Perhaps not, but the ICtCp color space will be applicable to either PQ or HLG . More refinement at the last HEVC meeting. This all takes time.

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

To this exact thread? or the 4K Movies Releases thread?
Then you must be an anomaly.

To this exact thread and to other thread of "Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K Hardware and Technology".

I learned a lot from Blu-ray.com and from AVS.
BTW, thank you very much!

I'd like to be friendly with everyone.
Life is better in a friendly environment.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Is he the guy, or was it the other writer they have over there? what’s his handle…’magic’? that skewered our Insider Robert Zohn over the quality of Robert’s last TV shootout? Problem is I'm told they rarely if ever make reference to Blu-ray.com but the folks here commonly post links to that forum. Not fair.

No, Scott is the top dog editor, Imagic is Mark.