HDR Discussion Thread

[LordoftheRings]

Meanwhile the HDR quality in Blade Runner 2049 looks stunning, jaws ejaculating.

[bluescholar]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Meanwhile the HDR quality in Blade Runner 2049 looks stunning, jaws ejaculating.

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

Accordingly the DoVi family:

What a fantastic smiley

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It "may" follow? Pfft. When all people have is hearsay and no official word from any of the parties involved then it's no wonder people are "whining", me very much included which I make no apology for. All folks are asking for is some clarity, if they don't get it then what do Sony and Dolby expect the public to do? Sing their praises for making each other look like idiots?

If you’re an early adopter in this hobby you pays your money, you takes your chances. Sorry Geoff, but you should know that by now. Things could be far worse, one could wake up with a non-traumatic retinal detachment and then what are some going to do – whine and whine that God was unfair to them?

Be patient. Ultimately, in due course, if people can prove any real damages other than a delay in expectations, there is always recourse, e.g. others have done so, here’s a template of a past incident -
https://sites.google.com/site/sonylc...ction-lawsuits

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

That source needs to get a good spanking with a Forbes magazine.

Comic Rimshot! - YouTube

As S.C. indicated, I kinda feel sorry for Eric.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If you’re an early adopter in this hobby you pays your money, you takes your chances. Sorry Geoff, but you should know that by now. Things could be far worse, one could wake up with a non-traumatic retinal detachment and then what are some going to do – whine and whine that God was unfair to them?

Be patient. Ultimately, in due course, if people can prove any real damages other than a delay in expectations, there is always recourse, e.g. others have done so, here’s a template of a past incident -
https://sites.google.com/site/sonylc...ction-lawsuits

What's God go to do with this? As I said, all people want is some clarity which shouldn't be too hard to come by because this hasn't been smote down upon us by a magical sky fairy who doesn't answer back, instead it's from two respected companies whose continued silence speaks the proverbial volumes.

Heck, I'm not sore that it's not working right this second on a personal level because the update wasn't pushed to the European sets anyway. I just find it frustrating that Dolby and Sony managed to botch this as glaringly as they have done, not that hiccups weren't to be expected but for such a fundamental issue to have arisen - given that it's already been worked on for a full calendar year since announcement, and probably before that - with no-one catching it is Keystone Cops levels of incompetency. Sure, the sun will still rise tomorrow and there are PLENTY of things for us to be truly concerned about in the real world but I don't live in the real world, I live on here

[Geoff D]

I'm reminded of this post of mine from the "when will it be updated?" thread. I knew that issues were bound to occur - no-one gets away clean, not in this business - but because my jokey second paragraph has apparently come to pass THAT'S what's grinding my gears. If I could see it coming from a mile away, why couldn't these two tech giants do the same?

Originally Posted by Geoff D

We'll get it when it's ready, and not a moment before. That said there are bound to be some real-world operational issues that not even the most diligent lab people can uncover, there always are, but hopefully no major boo-boos.

Makes me laugh to think of Sony using an OPPO or LG as the player when testing the TVs, though. I mean they'll likely have a means of playing back a DV signal using whatever black box of goodies they get from Dolby but even so, they can't let it go out to the public without testing it using consumer playback hardware...or can they?

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What's God go to do with this?

Reference to powers beyond one's control when desiring something. When your facing a tough crowd you try to make the best with what you can offer.

The Blues Brothers - Rawhide and Stand By Your Man - YouTube

[Geoff D]

But like I said, God don't often answer back unless you're, like, that Moses dude. Sony and Dolby don't have to be quite so reticent because, as Penton intoned, we're not talking about serious problems here after all.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

....but I don't live in the real world, I live on here

I’ll grant you, apparently living in some parts of Britain, that might be a good thing -

The UK Has A 'Minister For Loneliness' - YouTube

P.S.
What the heck is Poldark?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If I could see it coming from a mile away, why couldn't these two tech giants do the same?

Great work life balance…
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Em...VW17703148.htm

e.g. nothing like a Breakfast Burrito Birthday Bar on a Wednesday morning!

[Geoff D]

Poldark is a series of novels about a Cornish hunk who gets up to all sorts of mischief, it was adapted for British TV in the '70s and caused a generation of admirers to swoon and has recently been re-adapted for TV with Aidan Turner in the title role, causing a whole new generation of admirers to swoon. I can't imagine what they see in him:

[Shalashaska]

Originally Posted by Shalashaska

I have a bit of a noob-ish question.

Do LCDs discard/crush details in the blacks below their calibrated black level in nits (on discs mastered to 0 nits)? Are they tone mapped by the display?

How does this work with a relative luminance system like SDR? How do OLEDs with their true blacks handle SDR vs. a good LCD, both calibrated to 120 nits peak brightness?

bump

[zmarty]

If everything goes to plan, some of my videos will be shown in HDR10+ on a satellite channel in early February. In terms of color grading nothing changes for me, they add the HDR10+ dynamic stuff during the final encoding process. I still deliver in PQ as usual.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

causing a whole new generation of admirers to swoon. I can't imagine what they see in him

Appears to be an instinctive trait of our species to admire an intact, non-adipose laden rectus abdominis as exemplified at the last CES…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post14579818

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Shalashaska

bump

Wake up LordoftheRings . This ^ is your chance to move up on gkolb before thee end of the month tally and get into the top ten - https://forum.blu-ray.com/misc.php?d...osted&t=276605

So far, January highlights appear to include Geoff having surged ahead in numbers, Heat is back in the penalty box….maybe he’ll do a short shift on the ice once the HDR10+ Alliance has an internet site up and actively running (http://www.hdr10plus.org/).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

jaws ejaculating.

for future possibilities

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by zmarty

If everything goes to plan, some of my videos will be shown in HDR10+ on a satellite channel in early February. In terms of color grading nothing changes for me, they add the HDR10+ dynamic stuff during the final encoding process. I still deliver in PQ as usual.

Since we don’t have a fireplace in our master bedroom, we enjoyed this -

Real 4K HDR: Fireplace in HDR - YouTube

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wake up LordoftheRings

I have read his original post, and I was a little surprised that he didn't get a response, or by you or by Geoff, or by other experienced members. • https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=4016
And now he had to bump his questions for a second time.

We as a community @ Blu-ray forum we do our best to accommodate everyone.
If we are uncertain or unqualified or simply don't take the time to search or don't read,
we simply abstain.

Cheers Penton,
Bob

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by zmarty

If everything goes to plan, some of my videos will be shown in HDR10+ on a satellite channel in early February. In terms of color grading nothing changes for me, they add the HDR10+ dynamic stuff during the final encoding process. I still deliver in PQ as usual.

It should be interesting to assess the picture quality of your PQ videos and your same HDR10+ videos.