HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Right on man; we love our pets, we love our motorcycles, we love our healthy bodies, we love great movies, we love great documentaries, we love our tunes, we love quality pictures ... all in High Dynamic Range. We love our cameras, we love our displays, we love our gear, we love our food, we love life in the fast lane. We love top guns, we love Tom, Gerry and Chuck.

in lieu of this year’s Isle of Mann - https://www.rideapart.com/news/49781...tt-2022-dates/ , on returning from passing thru the canyon to stop a moment to capture a quick photo outside Suzuki Headquarters –



b.t.w., also like for the production of Top Gun: Maverick, Suzuki was here for a film shoot back in the day –

"Nice Ride" Suzuki Commercial - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

this upcoming program on June 3 – “…..we will discuss the impact of adding additional primaries on the color gamut: reduction in metamerism and the ability to provide expanded colors outside the current color gamuts. We can display what has never been seen on earth before now: the colors in between the colors.
During the SMPTE+ event you will hear from technologists, creatives….”

Including Dominic from Pixar, see –https://plus.smpte.org/2021plus/colorscience

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

take that ^ CIE- XYZ

for those who missed the ^ SMPTE+ event:
one thing which was introduced to attendees was this multi-primary project: https://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunic...y&story=223685

and as for Dominic, he didn’t delve into this interesting watershed event serving as a personal catalyst – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auZL8CuHXUU#t=1m2s , but he did discuss the production of the colors of the movie Inside Out as lit by ultraviolet light.

[Pagey123]

I didn't realize that motion is still such an issue, and these folks allege that having added HDR can make motion even harder to get right (I did not understand why, exactly).

Anyway, I posted this in the display tech thread but wanted to post here, too, as this one is way more active. Stop the FOMO is hosting a panel discussion with the folks at TrueCut, which addresses motion and motion issues with HDR content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsnN...ature=youtu.be

[Penton-Man]

^ in the meantime, a primer as to the company's previous work - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post16791208
and

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

with a bit more info on TrueCut mitigating judder and motion blur getting around overseas with The Bravest…https://pixelworks.gcs-web.com/node/14366/pdf

[Pagey123]

Thanks for posting that link, Penton! I should have known you were "in the know" lol.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Pagey123

Thanks for posting that link, Penton! I should have known you were "in the know" lol.

You’re welcome . It can be a double edged sword though, as the more of being in the know….the more one realizes just how much one really doesn’t know.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

for those who missed the ^ SMPTE+ event:
one thing which was introduced to attendees was this multi-primary project: https://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunic...y&story=223685

and as for Dominic, he didn’t delve into this interesting watershed event serving as a personal catalyst – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auZL8CuHXUU#t=1m2s , but he did discuss the production of the colors of the movie Inside Out as lit by ultraviolet light.

not only Dominic ^ , but others, albeit on a less intellectual and more individualized level are also interested in the human visual system and what it can and can’t do, in this case by training one’s vision with multiple object tracking, etc. for Trent Alexander-Arnold

Challenging Trent Alexander-Arnold's Vision | Improving A Pro Footballer's Eyesight & Reactions - YouTube

entire film here - https://www.redbull.com/int-en/films/trents-vision

Postscript -
https://www.espn.com/soccer/england-...h-thigh-injury

P.S. #2 -
Not everyone has the work ethnic or skill set of Trent; however, if you’ve got a prodigy of whichever sport in your family, this is the man to get in touch with if you want to try to have them get even better at it and they are motivated to the vision pyramid concept - https://www.sloansportsconference.co...dr-daniel-laby

[Penton-Man]

An example of -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

as the more of being in the know….

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...a#post18717467

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

the more one realizes just how much one really doesn’t know

which I didn’t, until reading p. 22 - Cmdr. Becky Calder ‘Sam’, first to -https://media.defense.gov/2021/Mar/1...EBOOK%20V6.PDF

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://rwkq6g8z.pages.infusionsoft.net/
one interesting about Wanda Vision was that it was the first movie, as far as I know, in which all the visual effects and VFX vendors worked in HDR from the get-go, not as per usual routine of vfx working in SDR and transforming into HDR later. So, the entire pipeline was in HDR, not just on set and in final grading.

heads-up to members Kool-aid23 and others having interest who may have missed it live, the recording of the interview with DIT Dane Brehm has now been published and is available on YouTube -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSCEUHm62Lg#t=1m

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

we love our healthy bodies

Just don’t get the cap wet –

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Right on man; we love our pets

including both Mr. Johnson - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post12949665
and, even when ungrateful, Mr. Bones - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...6#post18977456

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

we love our tunes

Nobody (2021) 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood' NINA SIMONE Official Song Movie Soundtrack - YouTube

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Nobod...lu-ray/288854/

And Vision

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Back in early spring of 2012, Dolby submitted the PQ curve for an EOTF based upon human perception for use with UHDTV to the respective ITU working party (the same group responsible for producing the recently released milestone ITU-R BT.2100). Anyway, during the discussions in that particular spring meeting, committee members expressed much skepticism about the value or need for having a TV capable of higher brightness and deeper black levels. The working party did not accept this objective based proposal (containing measurements, numbers, graphs) partly because there was not an appreciation that increased dynamic range would have value in a new TV system and partly because it was too new (visionary/revolutionary).

Soooo, 6 months later, Dolby provided another input document to the working party, this time which contained and described the subjective test results for viewer preference for white and black light levels. There were 34 study participants (among other things, who were classified into 3 age groups in order to approximate age-related effects of the human visual system <- a detail which I don't think has been mentioned in any of the online SMPTE presentations available to the public).

This later proposal was accepted and voilà….years later, we are where we are today.

and cats

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

we love our tunes

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Nobody (2021) 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood' NINA SIMONE Official Song Movie Soundtrack - YouTube
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Nobod...lu-ray/288854/

as some may recall ^ Nina Simone rediscovered from Point of No Return - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgk6whBWurQ#t=10m29s

b.t.w. the LUT created for Nobody by Walter was heavy being at a minimum 2/3s to a full stop darker in an attempt to enrich the coloring, which obliged the DP to light the dark areas of scenes more so than he’d typically done for other motion pictures.

[Penton-Man]

note to Robert Zohn:
dig out from your closet that U.S. National Team shirt you’ve got for this evening’s match - https://www.sportingnews.com/us/socc...n1d8dcxgxog8mw

? how good that Sony processing is with that big bad boy you have at home now when fed with less than pristine content from broadcasters and such.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Hey Peter, being killjoy aside, we’d like to see more of you here so as to break into the top ten contributors - https://forum.blu-ray.com/misc.php?d...osted&t=276605

And belated congrats to LordoftheRings as I notice since last checked, you’ve overtaken Geoff D and moved into 2nd place which aint bad at all -

He’s been second for a while now. Posting loads of crap about Chuck Norris will do that for ya

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

He’s been second for a while now. Posting loads of crap about Chuck Norris will do that for ya

Well said; put him @ his place that little French Canadian despikable bâtard.

[LordoftheRings]

The 2021 Summer Olympics in Hong Kong / HDR Broadcast / Sky

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

note to Robert Zohn:
dig out from your closet that U.S. National Team shirt you’ve got for this evening’s match - https://www.sportingnews.com/us/socc...n1d8dcxgxog8mw

? how good that Sony processing is with that big bad boy you have at home now when fed with less than pristine content from broadcasters and such.

[Penton-Man]

^ A quirk of our young (compared to you blokes) nation’s history - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football

Doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the ignorance (to the nuances of the sport) and biased over hype by Americans who announce the U.S. National Team matches, like last night. True patriots (USA) don't need such nonsense to support the team and the sport. I do wish the broadcast had been in HDR like other live sports – https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...tWQzs#t=41m43s
; nevertheless, it was really exciting to watch if you tuned out the announcing and cool that Claudio‘s young teenage son Gio, who b.t.w., is named after Claudio’s former Glasgow Rangers teammate Giovanni van Bronckhorst scored a goal for us.

Scottish, mark your calendar for Fri., June 18th - https://www.google.com/search?q=euro...l10v;dt;fp;1;;

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

He’s been second for a while now. Posting loads of crap about Chuck Norris will do that for ya

Geoff, life is fragile, LordoftheRings has good intentions.