Netflix Turns Focus Back to Disc

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by rickah88

This thread is about Netflix disc rental, plain and simple.

It appears to me some posters may not know the meaning of “Disc”. IIRC, the accepted term is disc = optical storage and disk = magnetic storage.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It appears to me some posters may not know the meaning of “Disc”. IIRC, the accepted term is disc = optical storage and disk = magnetic storage.

You forgot, disc = high quality

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

I didn't say it was the end all and be all but when you consider a lot of the extra cable channels are just for timeshifting, it is smarter to get netfix for $8 than those channels for $20+. Besides, a lot of the sports games are on specialty channels anyways which can be unique to the provider. Can you watch CFL games in the States on most providers? I am guessing not. Switch who provides you your cable and you could lose those games anyways. There are those of us who really could care less for the sports channels so it isn't a factor in deciding what to get.

I'm from UK so wouldn't have a clue lol. I was referring to soccer.

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I'm from UK so wouldn't have a clue lol. I was referring to soccer.

see now you have me confused

In the States, netflix focusing on discs maybe a good thing but for the rest of the world, it was never a factor for us. I know a couple companies here in Canada did that but I don't know if they still do. My experience with that was so-so - took way too long to get some discs and some of them were badly scratched. The US market might be different but I don't think anyone here is upset that we just get the streaming and no discs. Like I said, for $8 a month it is still worth it.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It appears to me some posters may not know the meaning of “Disc”. IIRC, the accepted term is disc = optical storage and disk = magnetic storage.

i agree raygendrau is a troll to this site. Anyone that reads his posts can see it

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

see now you have me confused

In the States, netflix focusing on discs maybe a good thing but for the rest of the world, it was never a factor for us. I know a couple companies here in Canada did that but I don't know if they still do. My experience with that was so-so - took way too long to get some discs and some of them were badly scratched. The US market might be different but I don't think anyone here is upset that we just get the streaming and no discs. Like I said, for $8 a month it is still worth it.

I don't rent at all disc wise, I blind buy all my blurays. I do use Netflix, however. It is streaming only. The only use I get out of it is watching some docs I missed and catching up on tv shows I was on the fence about. I am pretty sure the other major service we have here( Lovefilm) is streaming and disc rental.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I don't rent at all disc wise, I blind buy all my blurays. I do use Netflix, however. It is streaming only. The only use I get out of it is watching some docs I missed and catching up on tv shows I was on the fence about. I am pretty sure the other major service we have here( Lovefilm) is streaming and disc rental.

i use the theater to see which movies i will buy on blu ray and i use the tv and netflix to see which shows i will buy on blu ray

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by mredman

i use the theater to see which movies i will buy on blu ray and i use the tv and netflix to see which shows i will buy on blu ray

I don't go to cinema any more. Too many annoying people. I have my own home cinema.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I don't rent at all disc wise, I blind buy all my blurays. I do use Netflix, however. It is streaming only.

I am almost the opposite, rent (via Netflix by mail) most every title that we are unfamiliar with then decide if a title is worthy of repeat viewings by us. IOW, try before you buy . On certain occasions I will blind buy!

We have Netflix, Amazon Prime and VUDU streaming as well. The problem with SVOD is most of the content is older stuff with little value, the content with greater value is rental or purchase (physical or digital) in the US.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

I am almost the opposite, rent (via Netflix by mail) most every title that we are unfamiliar with then decide if a title is worthy of repeat viewings by us. IOW, try before you buy . On certain occasions I will blind buy!

We have Netflix, Amazon Prime and VUDU streaming as well. The problem with SVOD is most of the content is older stuff with little value, the content with greater value is rental or purchase (physical or digital) in the US.

I hear what you are saying. I just like that unknown element of blind buys. I buy in bulk at end of year and watch throughout the year. I also avoid film reviews until I have watched. On the downside it means a bit of patience with films I am hyped about but it is worth it. I live alone so I have spare money, I know a lot of people have to provide and therefore can't be so cavalier.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by rickah88

You are totally wrong. This is not some blanket Netflix thread, YOU are just treating it as such...which is known as derailing a thread, which is against forum rules, which is what Wendell is stating.
This thread is about Netflix disc rental, plain and simple. All talk about streaming should be directed to the appropriate Netflix streaming threads.

By all means, please contact and OP. I'd love to get this clarified once and for all.

Good luck with that. The thread starter has a total of 4 posts in the thread and a grand total of 48 on the forum. He hasn't been heard from since 2011.

However, there is no question about where his interest was when you read his second post in the thread:

"I'm confused. First they say they are putting the focus back to disc and now they:

http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2011/0...streaming.html

change the website to focus on streaming. Which is it? Or are they doing both? Or are they focusing on disc later? "

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=47

My posts have been relevant. They have been about what Netflix said they were going to do and what they were actually doing at the time. What they are doing now is also relevant.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

yes and no. No doubt it does play into it a bit but here in Canada, they had 1 million customers in the fall of 2011 - it has probably gone up since then. But even if it didn't, $8 million a month pays for a lot of royalties. Certianly the initial cost was covered by the US service but then again, isn't that how business works. Beside in the end, it is all one huge company anyways - my netflix ID works when I go to the States, I just get the US version of it. But it was a smart plan - at $8 a month, people will buy it instead of cable and it costs them less since they don't need discs, people to send them out, etc.

That's interesting. I wonder if your ID would work in Europe as well?

http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-h...9/SS-2-438510/

It will be interesting to see how they do in France. Competition is greater for them internationally than it is in the U.S.:

"France could be a tricky market to crack. An official “chronology” of movie releases restricts services like Netflix from airing films until three years after they open nationally in theaters, making them less attractive. In addition, video services in France are usually required to finance film production in the country. On Sunday, French culture minister Aurelie Filippetti told French newspaper Journal du Dimanche she would expect Netflix to follow French rules."

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I also avoid film reviews until I have watched.

Same here except I do read the technical aspects of a disc by a few trusted reviewers. I pay little or no attention to reviews of movie contents, style, etc. It is just another reason I love having Netflix by mail. I get to review movies on the cheap .

It will be interesting to see what Netflix does with UHD Blu-ray's when they become available, just hope they do not overprice the plans .

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Same here except I do read the technical aspects of a disc by a few trusted reviewers. I pay little or no attention to reviews of movie contents, style, etc. It is just another reason I love having Netflix by mail. I get to review movies on the cheap .

It will be interesting to see what Netflix does with UHD Blu-ray's when they become available, just hope they do not overprice the plans .

Right. I read the reviews after I have watched. Always interesting.

Netflix, no idea but I hope for all the renters sake that option will be there.

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

That's interesting. I wonder if your ID would work in Europe as well?

http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-h...9/SS-2-438510/

It will be interesting to see how they do in France. Competition is greater for them internationally than it is in the U.S.:

"France could be a tricky market to crack. An official “chronology” of movie releases restricts services like Netflix from airing films until three years after they open nationally in theaters, making them less attractive. In addition, video services in France are usually required to finance film production in the country. On Sunday, French culture minister Aurelie Filippetti told French newspaper Journal du Dimanche she would expect Netflix to follow French rules."

It should. My understanding is you are getting a Netflix account, not a Netflix Canada or Netflix US account. Because of that, it confirms your IP address and that decides what content you get. That is why people here can change their IP address to get American Netflix in Canada - as long as you have an account, you have access to everything. If you moved to the States and wanted disc service I am sure you would just need to update your address so it is an American one and you should be good to go.

I like Netflix for the blindbuy option myself. I have been burnt too many times in the past with buying something that looks like it might be good only to find out I spent $20 on trash. I found doing it by disc wasn't any better because you wound up looking for things that you knew(kind of do the same with Netflix but atleast they give you suggestions). I don't know how the disc service works in the States but I also found that a lot of the blindbuy type films would take a long time to get because they only had a few copies since it isn't a big film. At least with the streaming version, you can check it out right away instead of waiting weeks. Guess it all depends on what you need. I know I liked the disc service for tv shows as most video stores didn't carry them and usually by the time I got to them, the library versions were so scratched they would barely play.

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by rickah88

This thread is about Netflix disc rental, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It appears to me some posters may not know the meaning of “Disc”. IIRC, the accepted term is disc = optical storage and disk = magnetic storage.

Maybe the thread name could be changed - Netflix Physical Media Rental Thread, or another thread could be started.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

It should. My understanding is you are getting a Netflix account, not a Netflix Canada or Netflix US account. Because of that, it confirms your IP address and that decides what content you get. That is why people here can change their IP address to get American Netflix in Canada - as long as you have an account, you have access to everything. If you moved to the States and wanted disc service I am sure you would just need to update your address so it is an American one and you should be good to go.

I like Netflix for the blindbuy option myself. I have been burnt too many times in the past with buying something that looks like it might be good only to find out I spent $20 on trash. I found doing it by disc wasn't any better because you wound up looking for things that you knew(kind of do the same with Netflix but atleast they give you suggestions). I don't know how the disc service works in the States but I also found that a lot of the blindbuy type films would take a long time to get because they only had a few copies since it isn't a big film. At least with the streaming version, you can check it out right away instead of waiting weeks. Guess it all depends on what you need. I know I liked the disc service for tv shows as most video stores didn't carry them and usually by the time I got to them, the library versions were so scratched they would barely play.

I use Red Box to determine the replay value before I consider buying. The pricing to rent a BD for me is $1.50 + .12 Tax. Very competitive with Netflix, which is why I dropped Netflix by mail years ago.

Have you ever tried Red Box Canada? Any Kiosks near you?

http://www.redbox.ca/

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by mredman

i use the theater to see which movies i will buy on blu ray and i use the tv and netflix to see which shows i will buy on blu ray

This is kind of how I gauge what I'm going to buy too. Honestly, all of the services I use have saved me cash. My wife and I don't go to the movies as much as we use to since our son was born and we don't have a disposable income. Both services, streaming and BD rental is worth it to us.

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I use Red Box to determine the replay value before I consider buying. The pricing to rent a BD for me is $1.50 + .12 Tax. Very competitive with Netflix, which is why I dropped Netflix by mail years ago.

Have you ever tried Red Box Canada? Any Kiosks near you?

http://www.redbox.ca/

Sorry, I'm not trying to bust your balls ray, but what is the attraction to Red Box vs Netflix mail service? I can only speak for myself, but I'd much rather go to my mailbox than stand in line at a kiosk. I also like not having any late fees. So what is the benefits of Red Box? As much as I'd like to agree with the thread title being changed, there are plenty of streaming threads out there for that discussion. My advice would be to either contribute to those or just create your own thread at this point.

[blonde_devil]

I don't know about larger centers but we are just getting Redbox machines in a lot of areas so they were never a factor before. Even with disc service, it was Rogers for the most part doing it but both them and Blockbuster are out of business here in Canada so I think that stopped as well. I could be wrong(and probably am) but as far as I know, there is no way to get disc mail service in Canada. Redbox has the advantage that in a lot of cities, Blockbuster and Rogers were everywhere so a lot of the smaller independant places couldn't survive. Now with them gone, there is a huge gap and so Redbox and Netflix have an opportunity. I think that is the biggest difference and why the disc service is so liked in the States - ours was done by companies that owned video stores so when they went under, so did the service but yours is done by netflix and was the cornerstone of the company so losing it is a big deal. For us, Netflix has always been just streaming.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Sorry, I'm not trying to bust your balls ray, but what is the attraction to Red Box vs Netflix mail service? I can only speak for myself, but I'd much rather go to my mailbox than stand in line at a kiosk. I also like not having any late fees. So what is the benefits of Red Box? As much as I'd like to agree with the thread title being changed, there are plenty of streaming threads out there for that discussion. My advice would be to either contribute to those or just create your own thread at this point.

Both have their advantages. Redbox is better regarding new releases and Netflix has their niche in catalog. Also, if want to watch something today then the only option is Redbox. Netflix of course is more convenient.