Netflix Turns Focus Back to Disc

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by punkguy03

There are tons of people who feel the same way as you. I have streaming for one reason and that is tv shows. They have shows that are not available on dvd or blu-ray yet. My big example is always King of the Hill. It isn't available on dvd yet, except seasons 1-6. The quality isn't as bad as people act like it is. There are movies available in high def on netflix that are not available on blu yet and the quality is above that of the dvd counterparts. Despite what a lot of people on this forum would lead you to believe.

You can't reason with a format fan boy any more than you can any other type of fanboy. They are more than welcome to live with their self imposed limitations. It leaves more bandwidth available for the rest of us

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

that is a dumb post,
First being in IT I don't have to wear a suite and so I don't but at work there is a dress code and so I am forced to wear what is acceptable there, is there a home movie/TV watching code that tells me I have to watch badly over compressed content from Netflix on a 37" TV so that I don't think it looks like trash compared to BD instead of my projector.

As for mowing my lawn, I have a service for that, don't know where you live but here it is ~200$ for the season, it is not too hard to afford. So I don't mow my lawn

Clearly my post went right over your head, as evidenced by your response.
Of course I don't know, or care, how you maintain your lawn it was an example...and example that you failed to see.

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The Donster, i think it is the opposite. People who like streaming just tend to be passive movie fans. Fans of the Bluray format love it so because it represents the closest possible image when comparing to the cinema. We see films as an event. For example, weekend, lights off home cinema time. Watch the latest film on a nice big screen with superb surround sound. Or even with good headphones if i am in the mood. Streaming is only really a passive experience which comes nowhere near the experience i have just described. Take The Dark Knight Rises for example. A film that should look stunning on bluray (especially the Imax scenes if there are any) I couldn't get the same experience from a far inferior technology like streaming. The softness, blurring and general lower fidelity would distract me. I want the best. what is wrong with that. To say i am a format fan rather than a film fan is silly. I have loved films from the age of five when i first went to the cinema. I have embraced VHS, DVD, Laserdisc and now Bluray. They were all PROGRESSIVE technology. Streaming is not, it is simply for lazy people who find it too much of an ordeal to rent a film from a store or wait for the disc through the post. Probably the same people that keep looking at their phones when they are watching a movie at the cinema.

Well said.

Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

You only watch movies on blu-ray and you consider yourself a fan of film. What about all the wonderful foreign and indie films that do not get blu-ray releases, or the endless amount of movies that have not yet made it to blu-ray and many more that never will. Yet its those that take advantage of all these in what ever form available that are the passive film fans? I don't get the logic behind that statement.

Netflix just added all the startrek series, something that will never come to blu-ray, or if it does it will be as a cash grab. Now i can spend the thousands of dollars to watch it on dvd or spend 7.99 a month to watch them. The choice there is clear, or i could just never watch them again because now that blu-ray has become the best format, it no longer holds any entertainment value.

I believe the point he is making is streaming is for convenience or casual viewing. Perhaps the term "lazy" offended you.
I use it but only to catch episodes I missed or something that is on a premium channel I don't have.
Would I use it to watch a film I can't rent/buyu on blu-ray, sure provided I can't get it on dvd either.
For me the bottom line with streaming is I can't get the quality I want with it with my ISP and internet connection.
I may be in the minority but when streaming Trailer park boys: Countdown to Liquor Day. For the first time my quality actually hit "HD" did it look better than dvd yes could my ISP/connection maintain that for the whole film NO.
Was it sufficient for what I was doing sure. Would I watch everything that way NO. I've noticed more of a problem with action oriented content.

Do I think streaming has its place? Sure. Will it get better over time? Yes. Will I continue to use it? Of course. Will it replace my blu-ray player or collection? Of course not.

I think streaming biggest challenge is the internet infrastructure.

Here is a typical example of my internet speed:


As you can see it says my connection is slower than 56% of the US. Well I really don't have any other option where I live. I could go with Comcast but there speeds are actually slower than that in my area sometimes. Where as mine is pretty steady at 6Mb/s.
Which means 44% have a worse connection. That's about 137,000,000 people in America alone that have a worse connection assuming everyone had internet, which I realize they don't.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

You can't reason with a format fan boy any more than you can any other type of fanboy. They are more than welcome to live with their self imposed limitations. It leaves more bandwidth available for the rest of us

But aren't you a streaming fanboy? You certainly sound like it.
Speaking of imposed limitations wait until they start capping or charging per byte. That will be real limitations.

[Steedeel]

Rick, i do the lawn in my birthday suit. The neighbors love it.

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

Perhaps the term "lazy" offended you.

Nope not at all lol as i am neither lazy or a netflix user, but since you said it, i do find it amusing the "superior" attitudes of those that think their opinions particularly when it comes to home entertainment are the "right" ones, and everyone else is either wrong, not as smart, lazy etc... always a laugh for me.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Rick, i do the lawn in my birthday suit. The neighbors love it.

As do I, it denotes style!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

Nope not at all lol as i am neither lazy or a netflix user, but since you said it, i do find it amusing the "superior" attitudes of those that think their opinions particularly when it comes to home entertainment are the "right" ones, and everyone else is either wrong, not as smart, lazy etc... always a laugh for me.

You can't argue against quality. Loving a superior format makes sense to us.
If you do not use Netflix why defend it or people who love it? You have not experienced it so you are not qualified to comment.

[Steedeel]

Victor, i am jealous of that screen of yours.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

Here is a typical example of my internet speed:

My max speed is around 5.77 mbps and I can stream episodes in HD for the duration of the episode. I did it for Lost recently, the entire series. I'm doing it now with Damages. My ISP's rating is a D, lol, and slower than 66% of the US.

[Steedeel]

Well, stream in 'HD lite' anyway.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, stream in 'HD lite' anyway.

incorrect. The PS3's Netflix client says "X-High HD". Lost's stream is nearly flawless, though there is the occasional pixelation.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I watch dvd, cable and Bluray. It covers most bases.

Your home cinema would be offended by NetFlix but is okay with dvds?

Interesting.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Streaming is not, it is simply for lazy people who find it too much of an ordeal to rent a film from a store or wait for the disc through the post.

Do you know how long it would take to watch a television series with more than 100 episodes through mail rentals or how much it would cost to rent them from a place like Blockbuster? I watched all 121 episodes of Lost in 1.5 weeks using Netflix Instant. If I used Netflix to watch the series on Blu-ray through mail delivery, even with 2 BDs at a time, it would take significantly longer. With the X-High HD streams on Netflix, the quality is perfectly adequate given its convenience.

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

Nope not at all lol as i am neither lazy or a netflix user, but since you said it, i do find it amusing the "superior" attitudes of those that think their opinions particularly when it comes to home entertainment are the "right" ones, and everyone else is either wrong, not as smart, lazy etc... always a laugh for me.

I didn't say it.

[The_Donster]

My results are a little surprising and a little sad.

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You can't argue against quality. Loving a superior format makes sense to us.
If you do not use Netflix why defend it or people who love it? You have not experienced it so you are not qualified to comment.

I have experienced it (all my friends use it over blu-ray because they are lazy ), i just don't use it, there is a distinction. Loving blu-ray makes sense to me as well, but i won't limit myself to it, as i love the content, not the way it is delivered. Stating why i love blu-ray would be fine IMO, but most on this forum seem to condescend to any one with a differing opinion then their own. Whether that person doesn't have as a good a tv, or opts for a HTIB, or watches movies and tv from multiple sources. I find that amusing that so many find themselves with such an elitist attitude based on their electronics and possessions.

Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

I didn't say it.

Since you mentioned it....

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

My max speed is around 5.77 mbps and I can stream episodes in HD for the duration of the episode. I did it for Lost recently, the entire series. I'm doing it now with Damages. My ISP's rating is a D, lol, and slower than 66% of the US.

I was streaming a movie and couldn't maintain it over the duration. I haven't paid attention when streaming TV shows. Though I had significant pixelation during a couple of episodes of Spartacus: Blood and Sand.

Look at Donster's speed test 4x's higher than mine. I imagine he doesn't run into the issues that I do. As I said I think it is lack of good connections that is holding streaming back. For me there is no replacing physical media I like the album/box art, inserts and disc art.

[Steedeel]

It was i who made the lazy comment. Couldn't you be bothered to check?

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Victor, i am jealous of that screen of yours.

Thanks! I just watched the EE of LoTR: The Two Towers it was EPIC

Krazeyeyez,
I'm not seeing any "superior" attitudes. I certainly don't mean to come across that way if I did. I am a Netflix user/subscriber and a HT enthusiast. I use my projector as my TV 80% of my viewing is done on it. I do watch some SD content though it is scaled up. That also isn't the same as a blu-ray not even close. Does it look okay? yeah. Does it look as good as blu-ray? NOPE.
What I do see is people opposing the "streaming HD is as good as blu-ray" and it isn't. That is a fact.
Oh and I'm done with this discussion as I've said my peace.