The Shining 4K UHD (1980)

[Roy_Batty]

Because of the discrepancy between the Blu and the UHD as far as framing, I'm
thinking I will just hang on to My Blu-ray copy instead of selling it as I had planned!

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

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Wow the original transfer was really blown out in these shots, there's no detail outside the window it's just a blob of light but on the new transfer you can see the details in the trees and some blue sky peeking through in the background.

It looked stunning in theatres in 4K so this isn't surprising to me, but it's really cool to see it compared directly to the old blu.

~Matt

[Scottishguy]

Can we all just be happy the tennis ball is yellow?

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by Roy_Batty

Because of the discrepancy between the Blu and the UHD as far as framing, I'm
thinking I will just hang on to My Blu-ray copy instead of selling it as I had planned!

I mean it's so minimal though I'd hardly even call it a discrepancy. If you're fine with watching an older master I guess that's up to you, but the 4K blows away the old disc in every conceivable way.

~Matt

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

Can we all just be happy the tennis ball is yellow?

In a Kubrick thread someone will always be unhappy.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Wow the original transfer was really blown out in these shots, there's no detail outside the window it's just a blob of light but on the new transfer you can see the details in the trees and some blue sky peeking through in the background.

It looked stunning in theatres in 4K so this isn't surprising to me, but it's really cool to see it compared directly to the old blu.

~Matt

Ullman's office was part of the set, there's no "blue sky" back there to speak of!

It's more the highlights leaning towards dat Warners cyan tint that's making it look blue back there. The reflection of the ceiling lights in the windows is also much more prominent now.

Originally Posted by Gacivory

In a Kubrick thread someone will always be unhappy.

It's pretty much forums law at this point. By all means kvetch about the colour but I'd never keep an old disc for such a small difference in framing.

[Arrow]

Originally Posted by Roy_Batty

Because of the discrepancy between the Blu and the UHD as far as framing, I'm
thinking I will just hang on to My Blu-ray copy instead of selling it as I had planned!

What if the included blu-ray disc is exactly the same as the previous edition?

[HuggyBear73]

Did Diabolik get their stock yet?

[Roy_Batty]

Originally Posted by Arrow

What if the included blu-ray disc is exactly the same as the previous edition?

People are misunderstanding, I am still purchasing the new UHD version, I will just keep the old one as well instead of getting rid off it.

[crazybeats]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

The thing with 4K Blu-ray is it's more than just "4K". It's a recipe of luminosity, colour ect to give the enthusiast the best presentation of that film in home. Like owning their own film print essentially in digital form.

I've always wondered if the studios are really even concerned with mainstream success with the format. Trying to explain to your average consumer HDR, wide colour gamut for a start is hard enough. Let alone them knowing how to set their TVs correctly. They can't even turn interpolation off!

And yes most of them will still be using LCD TVS. OLEDs are a premium, and really are not that intuitive. I've had friends being so bemused by my C8 lol. Then there's also the matter of owning a 4K player

The general public will never care for 4K, blu ray has never replaced DVD. We live in a time when people don't even pay for Sky or cable because you can have any channel you want for pennies on your TV. The days of people paying decent money for films is long gone and it isn't coming back. Even with 4K films, they are digital files, many can stick them on a USB drive and it will be identical in every way to any UHD disc out there that needs a £100+ player to play it. It's not going to appeal to everyone and I don't think Warner Bros or any film company are expecting to sell millions of copies of discs anymore.

At least the blu ray is included and the old releases are easy to pick up

[Arrow]

Originally Posted by Roy_Batty

People are misunderstanding, I am still purchasing the new UHD version, I will just keep the old one as well instead of getting rid off it.

I'm wondering why someone would want to keep the old one if the new 4K edition also includes the exact same blu-ray disc. If the blu-ray disc that's included in the 4K box is different, then I understand.

I was about to sell my copy as well since I'm getting the new 4K edition.

Basically, I'm wondering if the blu-ray disc that's included is going to have a new transfer.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by crazybeats

The general public will never care for 4K, blu ray has never replaced DVD. We live in a time when people don't even pay for Sky or cable because you can have any channel you want for pennies on your TV. The days of people paying decent money for films is long gone and it isn't coming back. Even with 4K films, they are digital files, many can stick them on a USB drive and it will be identical in every way to any UHD disc out there that needs a £100+ player to play it. It's not going to appeal to everyone and I don't think Warner Bros or any film company are expecting to sell millions of copies of discs anymore.

At least the blu ray is included and the old releases are easy to pick up

Ah Sky, the service people only get for the football. I keep wondering what idiot at BT thought buying a small fraction of the Premier League package would seriously be good for bussiness. Someone who's obviously never lived in the real world, or visited a pub in their life. Cause totally splitting the package is going to make people want to pay for your service.

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Ullman's office was part of the set, there's no "blue sky" back there to speak of!

It's more the highlights leaning towards dat Warners cyan tint that's making it look blue back there. The reflection of the ceiling lights in the windows is also much more prominent now.

Well then, that’s some impressive verisimilitude on Warner’s/Kubrick’s behalf.

~Matt

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Well then, that’s some impressive verisimilitude on Warner’s/Kubrick’s behalf.

~Matt

The whole interior of the hotel is a giant set, even that massive lobby, several of those snow-bound exteriors are sets as well! Amazing production design.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The whole interior of the hotel is a giant set, even that massive lobby, several of those snow-bound exteriors are sets as well! Amazing production design.

And Doctor Sleep will be on a green screen.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

And Doctor Sleep will be on a green screen.

A green screen and a literal green movie too.

[DeadLikeMe]

Seems to me people are just seeing what they want to see from these caps, as many of the old caps looks just as good, sometimes even with seemingly better contrast than on the new ones. Hopefully the difference in motion is more pronounced.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DeadLikeMe

Seems to me people are just seeing what they want to see from these caps, as many of the old caps looks just as good, sometimes even with seemingly better contrast than on the new ones. Hopefully the difference in motion is more pronounced.

Contrast was a key requirement during the shooting of the movie, but one of the problems with SDR converted UHD caps is that you're not getting the proper luminance which is why they can look flatter and dimmer.

I'm excited because of how filmic it appears in the caps, but any perceived issues regarding brightness, contrast and to some extent colour are best left to seeing it in motion.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by DeadLikeMe

Seems to me people are just seeing what they want to see from these caps, as many of the old caps looks just as good, sometimes even with seemingly better contrast than on the new ones. Hopefully the difference in motion is more pronounced.

The UHD caps are down converted to SDR @ 100 nits.

Originally Posted by Rusty100

Here's some 4K caps (MadVR HDR > SDR, 100 nits, JPEG quality 100)

[Darthbooth1978]

Does anyone know what stuff Kelvin Pike shot on the Shining? I wrote to him a couple of years ago, but was more concerned about his involvement in The Empire Strikes Back back then and got a nice card and image signed. Wished I’d asked him.