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Cvalda · 06-17-2019, 06:01 AM

Talked with Leon Vitali for a bit tonight. Asked him which cut of The Shining Kubrick preferred, hoping to put an end to the matter once and for all. His answer: "It's hard to say." He did at least confirm the European cut was made for commercial reasons.

Also asked him about Eyes Wide Shut 4K. He said that it is indeed coming, but they haven't done the Full Metal Jacket 4K restoration yet, and that obviously has to come first. So it probably won't be for a while, but at least it's on the cards

Ray Jackson · 06-17-2019, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cvalda

Talked with Leon Vitali for a bit tonight. Asked him which cut of The Shining Kubrick preferred, hoping to put an end to the matter once and for all. His answer: "It's hard to say." He did at least confirm the European cut was made for commercial reasons.

Also asked him about Eyes Wide Shut 4K. He said that it is indeed coming, but they haven't done the Full Metal Jacket 4K restoration yet, and that obviously has to come first. So it probably won't be for a while, but at least it's on the cards

The documentary on Leo is fascinating.

I hope he’s doing okay.

...sounded like his decades long devotion to Kubrick left him with very little to show for it.

Cvalda · 06-17-2019, 06:59 AM

He is a very lovely man, that's for sure. Even overheard him giving his email address to random fans. Talks to everyone who comes up to him at screenings and is very gracious with his time.

I KEEL YOU · 06-17-2019, 08:25 AM

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The book isn’t that good, honestly. Thank god Kubrick did what he did with it.

If the book wasn't good, or at least didn't have something good about it, Stanley Kubrick sure as hell wouldn't have made a movie that was based on it.

crazybeats · 06-17-2019, 09:47 AM

When he does these meet and greets with fans and Q&As does no one ever want to ask him about the original ending of The Shining and if it still exists? It would be good to know once and for all what exists and what doesn't exist. Same with Eyes Wide Shut and the reported 20 minutes Warner Bros cut out of it.

Owenjohnston · 06-17-2019, 09:53 AM

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Also asked him about Eyes Wide Shut 4K. He said that it is indeed coming

OutOfBoose · 06-17-2019, 09:54 AM

I'm not entirely sure why FMJ "obviously" needs to come first?

Resettito · 06-17-2019, 02:15 PM

The book is fantastic and infinitely superior to the film, but as King explained it at length, the film is a very loose adaptation and it is a poor adaptation. I'm paraphrasing him but Jack is clearly nuts from the start in the film, there's no descent into insanity, there's no depth to the characters but hey, it's still a great film.

The miniseries is actually pretty good and obviously super faithful as King himself wrote the adaptation.

Cvalda · 06-17-2019, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crazybeats

When he does these meet and greets with fans and Q&As does no one ever want to ask him about the original ending of The Shining and if it still exists? It would be good to know once and for all what exists and what doesn't exist. Same with Eyes Wide Shut and the reported 20 minutes Warner Bros cut out of it.

Warner Bros never cut anything from EWS.

-shadow- · 06-17-2019, 02:35 PM

The only difference made to Eyes are the CGI people if I'm not mistaken, the rest should be identical.

Cremildo · 06-17-2019, 02:48 PM

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Warner Bros never cut anything from EWS.

Indeed, but conspiracy theorists who believe Kubrick was killed by the Illuminati for exposing their secrets on the film also believe Warner cut a 20-minute sequence containing child sacrifice and cannibalism.

FilmFreakosaurus · 06-17-2019, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Resettito

The book is fantastic and infinitely superior to the film, but as King explained it at length, the film is a very loose adaptation and it is a poor adaptation. I'm paraphrasing him but Jack is clearly nuts from the start in the film, there's no descent into insanity, there's no depth to the characters but hey, it's still a great film.

The miniseries is actually pretty good and obviously super faithful as King himself wrote the adaptation.

Oh contraire. The miniseries was lousy, King or no King involvement. Stephen has a hard time adapting himself to a visual medium and The Shining miniseries is but one example. Kubrick's adaptation at least gives you an unsettled feeling and the haunted hotel room gave many a viewer the heebie jeebies.

-shadow- · 06-17-2019, 03:08 PM

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Indeed, but conspiracy theorists who believe Kubrick was killed by the Illuminati for exposing their secrets on the film also believe Warner cut a 20-minute sequence containing child sacrifice and cannibalism.

I will admit, if this were to be true, this be one hell of a deleted bunch of minutes that I'd like to see!

JimDiGriz · 06-17-2019, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

I'm not entirely sure why FMJ "obviously" needs to come first?

Nor me. I've never been a fan of it to be honest. EWS on the other hand....

LordSummerIsle · 06-17-2019, 05:24 PM

That artwork is atrocious. The steelbook is better, but I hate steelbooks. Dilemma.

Cvalda · 06-17-2019, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

I'm not entirely sure why FMJ "obviously" needs to come first?

Seems they're going in release order. Also one of them is a better seller, and it unfortunately ain't EWS.

eddievanhalen · 06-17-2019, 09:23 PM

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Seems they're going in release order. Also one of them is a better seller, and it unfortunately ain't EWS.

It seems they are not. Where's Barry Lindon, that one came after Clockwork Orange and before The Sinning.

xbs2034 · 06-17-2019, 09:28 PM

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The only difference made to Eyes are the CGI people if I'm not mistaken, the rest should be identical.

Yes, that was the only change, and it was solely done to get an R rating in the US (which was part of Kubrick’s contract). I remember Tom Cruise standing by it saying “not one frame’ of the movie was cut, since it was just the CGI blocking put in, and which Kubrick apparently supported in theory over cutting footage, though of course he died before being able to oversee the changes.

Geoff D · 06-17-2019, 09:28 PM

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It seems they are not. Where's Barry Lindon, that one came after Clockwork Orange and before The Sinning.

I think they may have been referring to completing the actual 4K transfer, which we know that Warners have already done for Lyndon. As & when it hits UHD is anyone's guess.

Schism213 · 06-17-2019, 09:29 PM

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It seems they are not. Where's Barry Lindon, that one came after Clockwork Orange and before The Sinning.

Licensed to Criterion?

06-17-2019, 06:01 AM	#1401
Cvalda Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Hollyweird, CA 4K collection:121 Blu-ray collection:315 DVD collection:31 iTunes collection:1 Prime collection:4	Talked with Leon Vitali for a bit tonight. Asked him which cut of The Shining Kubrick preferred, hoping to put an end to the matter once and for all. His answer: "It's hard to say." He did at least confirm the European cut was made for commercial reasons. Also asked him about Eyes Wide Shut 4K. He said that it is indeed coming, but they haven't done the Full Metal Jacket 4K restoration yet, and that obviously has to come first. So it probably won't be for a while, but at least it's on the cards

06-17-2019, 06:59 AM	#1403
Cvalda Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Hollyweird, CA 4K collection:121 Blu-ray collection:315 DVD collection:31 iTunes collection:1 Prime collection:4	He is a very lovely man, that's for sure. Even overheard him giving his email address to random fans. Talks to everyone who comes up to him at screenings and is very gracious with his time.

06-17-2019, 09:47 AM	#1405
crazybeats Special Member Member since:Oct 2012 Location:Glasgow, Scotland	When he does these meet and greets with fans and Q&As does no one ever want to ask him about the original ending of The Shining and if it still exists? It would be good to know once and for all what exists and what doesn't exist. Same with Eyes Wide Shut and the reported 20 minutes Warner Bros cut out of it.

06-17-2019, 09:54 AM	#1407
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	I'm not entirely sure why FMJ "obviously" needs to come first?

06-17-2019, 02:15 PM	#1408
Resettito Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:57	The book is fantastic and infinitely superior to the film, but as King explained it at length, the film is a very loose adaptation and it is a poor adaptation. I'm paraphrasing him but Jack is clearly nuts from the start in the film, there's no descent into insanity, there's no depth to the characters but hey, it's still a great film. The miniseries is actually pretty good and obviously super faithful as King himself wrote the adaptation.

06-17-2019, 02:35 PM	#1410
-shadow- Special Member Member since:Aug 2009	The only difference made to Eyes are the CGI people if I'm not mistaken, the rest should be identical.

06-17-2019, 05:24 PM	#1415
LordSummerIsle Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2014 Location:United States 4K collection:378 Blu-ray collection:2119 Digital collection:34 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:6	That artwork is atrocious. The steelbook is better, but I hate steelbooks. Dilemma.

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