Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[jacked]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

13% duty with 20% VAT on top I make to be about £380, yep, but that's STILL £50 over the odds (if I don't like the free movie that much does it still count? ) and while that might be a drop in the ocean for some people, it's sure as hell not for me.

£399 with the movie would've been the best I could've hoped for, but as it is they're trying to squeeze every penny from the UK consumers that they can. Panasonic's machine is FAR meatier in terms of build & connections and comes with two movies for just £170 extra, so either Panasonic are lowballing their price or Samsung really are taking the piss. Either way, Samsung doesn't come out of it smelling of roses.

Hi Geoff,

Do you know what movies comes with the Panasonic ?

Thanks,
Dave

[Adrian Wright]

Originally Posted by jacked

Hi Geoff,

Do you know what movies comes with the Panasonic ?

Thanks,
Dave

From what I have read Jacked, it is Mad Max Fury Road and San Andreas with the Panasonic and The Martian with the Samsung

HTH

[Derb]

Originally Posted by ray0414

the time stamp is 48:16

im using the user setting.

upscaling your 1080P content will have a similar effect of "smearing". my oppo does the same thing so ive always kept 4k upscaling off of that also.

Cheers, will take a look.

[cyberbo60]

I just ordered mine from the Samsung website. I think I may have screwed up because the box stores may get their shipment first

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by psicon

Same scene set to 1080, 2160 and auto.

thanks. ive got the pictures full screen by clicking on them. and the 1080P version has slightly better texture. its really slight, but im pretty sure im seeing it.

curious, what tv do you have and do you have your tvs UHD color turned on? ive found that this setting turned on also hurts texture.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by ray0414

thanks. ive got the pictures full screen by clicking on them. and the 1080P version has slightly better texture. its really slight, but im pretty sure im seeing it.

curious, what tv do you have and do you have your tvs UHD color turned on? ive found that this setting turned on also hurts texture.

I have a Sony 850b, non-HDR capable. What I noticed was on the 1080p setting the hair is not as defined as the other two. Didn't really look elsewhere as to me it was apparent less detail in the 1080p. This is viewed on a PC on the same tv the shots were taken from.

[Malibu13]

So, are you guys saying that without an HDR display, that the player is doing a better job of upscaling? Although I have not tested the upscaling as of yet, I'm having a hard time understanding how this player does a better job of upscaling than my Sharp TV (LC-60UE30). Gonna have to test this soon, in hopes of convincing myself and seeing it first-hand. From looking at the pics in the above post, i'm liking the 2nd pic at 2160 better.

I don't doubt you guys at all cause I have very little experience in this stuff and am looking for the right (or close to right) answers. So, does the majority say use the K8500 for upscaling or let the TV do it? I know what looks good to me, may not be the norm for most but is there really a norm at this point in the K8500's life?

Looking to you guys & gals for guidance.

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

13% duty with 20% VAT on top I make to be about £380, yep, but that's STILL £50 over the odds (if I don't like the free movie that much does it still count? ) and while that might be a drop in the ocean for some people, it's sure as hell not for me.

£399 with the movie would've been the best I could've hoped for, but as it is they're trying to squeeze every penny from the UK consumers that they can. Panasonic's machine is FAR meatier in terms of build & connections and comes with two movies for just £170 extra, so either Panasonic are lowballing their price or Samsung really are taking the piss. Either way, Samsung doesn't come out of it smelling of roses.

Import duty is 13.9% actually

Other than that you are comparing list price to special introductory price, maybe the Samsung will also be a little off in the UK?

The free movie is what it is I guess but at least they picked the Fox movie with the most general appeal I think plus as you know it may well be the only current Fox title that is at least partly "real" 4k.

But it seems you have your sights set on the Panasonic anyway, what are you still doing in the Samsung thread?

[Tns49]

Originally Posted by psicon

Same scene set to 1080, 2160 and auto.

Something is clearly strange here. Lets hope it gets resolved.

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by psicon

Same scene set to 1080, 2160 and auto.

I think the pic third is right colour natural. I guess.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

Import duty is 13.9% actually

Other than that you are comparing list price to special introductory price, maybe the Samsung will also be a little off in the UK?

The free movie is what it is I guess but at least they picked the Fox movie with the most general appeal I think plus as you know it may well be the only current Fox title that is at least partly "real" 4k.

But it seems you have your sights set on the Panasonic anyway, what are you still doing in the Samsung thread?

People keep trotting out the "special introductory price" thing about the $399 US deal but as long as it remains at that price then comparisons are entirely valid. And, as I said in my other post, where's the UK introductory discount then? If they were to bust it down to £380 then I'd gladly shut up. Or perhaps £429 is the introductory price and it's supposed to be £499? I wouldn't put it past them.

Yep, I'm up for the Panny alright. But what are you still doing in here now that you've let your Samsung go? Or has it come back already?

[Adrian Wright]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

But it seems you have your sights set on the Panasonic anyway, what are you still doing in the Samsung thread?

Money would be better spent purchasing something that can display HDR rather than clutching to an hope that another player will downconvert the HDR to play nicely on an SDR set, but a fool and his money

Once I relaised that HDR was coming along with the other features and benefits of UHD BD, I sold my 9005A Sony on eBay and got something that would work. Never looked back and now having used this player, glad I did. Is it perfect, no. Will I replace it for an Oppo, yes. But for now it ticks all the boxes for me

[Geoff D]

You'll be sure to let me know when I can get a fully fledged UHDA-certified 'Premium' HDR TV for £600, won't you?

[Geoff D]

Besides, I'd still need to, y'know, buy a UHD player anyway once I get a fancy new TV, no? Might as well get the former out of the way now, and I've been warned off several times by another Samsung owner that the player simply isn't worth bothering with so why not skip over it and grab the Panny for the better build and spec in general? After all Adrian, you've just said you're gonna ditch it once the Oppo is available and I know of at least one more person who's dumped it already...

And I'm not "clinging" to anything regarding the SDR conversion, as without dynamic metadata that aspect of it is pretty much screwed no matter which player I get, it would simply be a nice bonus if the Panny does it better and/or allows some semblance of finer control over selection of colour space, HDR/SDR etc. I'm not holding my breath though.

[jaaguir]

Originally Posted by psicon

Same scene set to 1080, 2160 and auto.

Well, 1080p is clearly the softest looking, as it should be. As for 2160 and auto, it seems to be a contrast/brightness thing (auto is probably too bright). If the setting is supposed to only affect resolution, don't know why that would happen though.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by jaaguir

Well, 1080p is clearly the softest looking, as it should be. As for 2160 and auto, it seems to be a contrast/brightness thing (auto is probably too bright). If the setting is supposed to only affect resolution, don't know why that would happen though.

I didn't notice a difference in brightness on screen when taking the shots. Could be a side effect of using a camera on auto mode. Or it just might not have been as apparent on screen, there was a few seconds between taking the shots after all.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You'll be sure to let me know when I can get a fully fledged UHDA-certified 'Premium' HDR TV for £600, won't you?

They need to make one before they can drop the price

[Adrian Wright]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

They need to make one before they can drop the price

And if £600 is the budget for a display, I would look at a different hobby. One that perhaps suits ones financial circumstances

Seriously, who would expect to pay that kind of money for new display technology yet would gladly pay the same for a player. As I said, a fool......

I would stick to DVD if that is all the budget allows

That aside, having used this player again tonight the quality is very, very impressive. Would recommend to anyone interested in getting one. Having said that, I am not so sure of the benefits that can be gained from running this through an SDR display as Resolution is only one small part of the UHD experience.

[jaaguir]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

They need to make one before they can drop the price

They start this spring, right?

I thought the Panny DX902 looked promesing, on the low-budget end (if I'm not mistaken).

[montyb]

I checked my player out at the 48:16 mark in 1080p as compared to the 2160p setting. 2160p had much more detail when set on 1080p the picture looked flat and not as detailed and bright. I checked it a few times and got the same result. Why is everyone else getting a better picture when the player is set at 1080p is beyond me. I am using Samsung UN65JU7500.
Dynamic picture, Backlight 20, Contrast 100, Brightness 50. The player automatically sets Backlight and Contrast when watching 4K discs.