Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

I use RGB standard for blurays and enhanced for UHD's, I got those setttings from someone in this thread who had the same TV as I do. I thought the 4:4:4 was for HDR which I don't have

So if you have HDR (which I do) is 4:4:4, but for HD 1080 bluray is RGB standard? Now you are confusing me

[rroeder]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

So if you have HDR (which I do) is 4:4:4, but for HD 1080 bluray is RGB standard? Now you are confusing me

I should clarify, it was my understanding the 4:4:4 option was for HDR displays with wide color gamut which I don't have. RGB enhanced for non HDR displays playing UHD's and standard for blurays.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

I should clarify, it was my understanding the 4:4:4 option was for HDR displays with wide color gamut which I don't have. RGB enhanced for non HDR displays playing UHD's and standard for blurays.

So, to resume:

For UHD/HDR content we have Resolution 2160 and Color Space 4:4:4
For HD content we have Resolution 1080 and Color Space RGB Standard

I will never use RGB Enhanced because my Oled TV is HDR-enabled, I guess

[rroeder]

Yeah that's my understanding but the auto setting might work just fine I don't know. Maybe someone with more understanding could chime in

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

Yeah that's my understanding but the auto setting might work just fine I don't know. Maybe someone with more understanding could chime in

I guess when playing UHD/HDR content setting reolution at 2160 is rather redundant. I think I might stick with Auto/Auto for UHD and only switch to 1080/RGB standard only when playing regular HD 1080 content (in order to let TV do upscaling rather than the player)

[rroeder]

I am curious now on the color format setting if auto will work. Not a big deal changing the setting tho as I'm changing the resolution setting anyway

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

I am curious now on the color format setting if auto will work. Not a big deal changing the setting tho as I'm changing the resolution setting anyway

I think when playing UHD content Auto/Auto makes the most sense, as opposed to when playing HD 1080 content (where we want to set 1080/RGB so that the player upscaling is disabled)

[rroeder]

I went back in this thread and looked at people's settings, sounds like auto works fine for color format. Some were complaining about RGB enhanced so maybe I will try the auto setting to see if I notice any diff.

I also discovered there's more settings if you hit the tool button while playing a disc, had no idea need to check that too

[rroeder]

So I tried a UHD disc with both Auto and RGB enhanced settings and couldn't tell any diff. With an HDR display folks seem to be using the 4:4:4 setting more than Auto tho so maybe try that?

I also tried the tools button and picture mode, I preferred the standard setting with my SDR display

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

So I tried a UHD disc with both Auto and RGB enhanced settings and couldn't tell any diff. With an HDR display folks seem to be using the 4:4:4 setting more than Auto tho so maybe try that?

I also tried the tools button and picture mode, I preferred the standard setting with my SDR display

I set my player on 1080 and color space Auto last night and played an episode of Agent Carter (1080 bluray, of course), with this one scene shot in the dark that always gave me awful posterization/contouring issues, with different shades of gray and black looking awfully pixelated. Believe it or not, that scene looked totally cleaned up and free of macro-blocking, the trees in the dark looked clear and not pixelated, and the fog for once loked like actual fog.
So it seems taht switching from Auto resolution to 1080 also helps with posterization near black as well, perhaps due to less upscaling processing from the player itself

[BluLobsta]

Finally picked one of these up Spun up Fury Road last night and was completely impressed...and that was out of the box. I can imagine what the picture will look like when I tinker with the settings a bit Stay tuned...

[rroeder]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I set my player on 1080 and color space Auto last night and played an episode of Agent Carter (1080 bluray, of course), with this one scene shot in the dark that always gave me awful posterization/contouring issues, with different shades of gray and black looking awfully pixelated. Believe it or not, that scene looked totally cleaned up and free of macro-blocking, the trees in the dark looked clear and not pixelated, and the fog for once loked like actual fog.
So it seems that switching from Auto resolution to 1080 also helps with posterization near black as well, perhaps due to less upscaling processing from the player itself

Cool deal, between the player and the tv up scaling you were prob getting processing overload.

I'm gonna try the auto setting for color format going forward, one less setting to change, it did sound like folks with HDR tv's were using the 4:4:4 setting tho

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

Cool deal, between the player and the tv up scaling you were prob getting processing overload.

I'm gonna try the auto setting for color format going forward, one less setting to change, it did sound like folks with HDR tv's were using the 4:4:4 setting tho

I love my new Oled TV but I did not quite get why I was having so many issues with posterization near black. Since at this moment I cant afford professional calibration, I tried to crush black to eliminate that problem. I also tried all different picture settings with different contrast/brightness levels.But the one thing I never touched was the resolution settings in my Samsung because supposedly the player does such an amazing job at 1080 upscaling.
That particular segment of Agent Carter season one in the dark is probably the best example of these issues that I have been having, so you can imagine my expression when I set resolution to 1080 on the player, played that scene, and all of a sudden the fog and the trees looked like real fog and real trees, rather than something belonging to an old Nintendo game!

[movielover1069]

Originally Posted by rroeder

So I tried a UHD disc with both Auto and RGB enhanced settings and couldn't tell any diff. With an HDR display folks seem to be using the 4:4:4 setting more than Auto tho so maybe try that?

I also tried the tools button and picture mode, I preferred the standard setting with my SDR display

I have mine set on Auto for resolution and RGB Enhanced and that seems to work the best for both UHD and Blu-ray. I see no need to keep switching the settings around each time you put a different format disc in, but that's just me.

[rroeder]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

I have mine set on Auto for resolution and RGB Enhanced and that seems to work the best for both UHD and Blu-ray. I see no need to keep switching the settings around each time you put a different format disc in, but that's just me.

With mine if I set resolution to auto the player will upscale blurays, I prefer the tv to do the upscaling

[movielover1069]

Originally Posted by rroeder

With mine if I set resolution to auto the player will upscale blurays, I prefer the tv to do the upscaling

Does it make that much of a difference?

[Bbeauj8]

Regarding the Samsung k8500 player, can anyone tell me if it would better to purchase this one over say one of the cheaper upscaling players from Walmart for like $100?

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by rroeder

With mine if I set resolution to auto the player will upscale blurays, I prefer the tv to do the upscaling

yes, the upscaling has been a major annoyance. the player needs a "native" output badly.

Originally Posted by movielover1069

Does it make that much of a difference?

upscaling to 4k with a bd player can actually cause softness and smearing of details. ive taken comparison pictures and its pretty obvious an upscaled to 4k image from say blu ray has a smeared look to it, details literally will be missing.

Originally Posted by Bbeauj8

Regarding the Samsung k8500 player, can anyone tell me if it would better to purchase this one over say one of the cheaper upscaling players from Walmart for like $100?

do you have a 4k tv and plan to buy 4k blu rays? the only reason to buy the samsung player is if you have a 4k tv. and even if you do have a 4k tv, it would be cheaper to buy the Philips 4k player that just came out.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

With mine if I set resolution to auto the player will upscale blurays, I prefer the tv to do the upscaling

I actually believe that setting the player on 1080 will let TV do upscaling. Auto will have the player do that instead

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

Does it make that much of a difference?

Read my post a few messages back. I noticed a HUGE difference going from Auto to 1080 in the way of a less processed picture with less nasty artifacts and posterization/contouring. Color space I keep on Auto because I dont think it makes any difference as long as resolution is set on 1080 for HDblurays and either Auto or 2160 for UHD/HDR blurays