Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500 - Page 71 - Blu-ray Forum

bruceames · 02-14-2016, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz

God, this whole thing is turning into an absolute goat screw. I mean Christ, don't these people actually plug one of their machines into a TV and give it a whirl before releasing it? You have the player, the UHD discs and the appropriate display, that bad boy should leap into action without any grief whatsoever.

They probably tested it on a Sony and called it a day.

Haven't heard of any issues from Sony TV owners...

montyb · 02-14-2016, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz

God, this whole thing is turning into an absolute goat screw. I mean Christ, don't these people actually plug one of their machines into a TV and give it a whirl before releasing it? You have the player, the UHD discs and the appropriate display, that bad boy should leap into action without any grief whatsoever.

Actually Samsung may not have had actual UHD discs to try. This is a brand new format (just like blu ray once was) and you are always going to have bugs in these new formats. That's where firmware updating comes in handy to fix these bugs. Everything will work out in due time. It will be other players too from different manufacturers that will have issues also. IT will take awhile to get the boat in smooth water. We got our player and some movies so we can be happy with that for now.

eddybe · 02-14-2016, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by montyb

What causes my problems with high contrast and orange tinting is everytime I load a 4K UHD disc in the player all my settings (Backlight, Contrast, Brightness, Color and Sharpness) peak at 100%! Once I set everything right and if I go back to the menu, it does it again! Watching the movie without stopping or pausing I do not need to adjust the settings again (until I put in another 4K disc). This never happens with DVD or standard blu ray. Just the UHD blu rays. I am watching on a Samsung JU7500 UHD TV. Anyone else having this issue? Its probably something Samsung can fix in a firmware update in the future. But it is annoying though.

I have the JS9000 and no issues noticed yet as the HDR settings take over. Not sure what's happening with so many people having problems. I've tested the movies several times and it's been flawless for me.

Maybe you have a bad HDMI cable or one that does not support 18.0Gbps?

eddybe · 02-14-2016, 11:34 PM

I've noticed for Samsumg JS9000 I have firmware version 1440, but the website has version 1441 available. No OTA update is available.

Anyone know what changes are made for firmware version 1441? Maybe the issues some are having is due to firmware.

bruceames · 02-14-2016, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by montyb

Actually Samsung may not have had actual UHD discs to try. This is a brand new format (just like blu ray once was) and you are always going to have bugs in these new formats. That's where firmware updating comes in handy to fix these bugs. Everything will work out in due time. It will be other players too from different manufacturers that will have issues also. IT will take awhile to get the boat in smooth water. We got our player and some movies so we can be happy with that for now.

Of course Samsung will have UHD check discs (which are exact samples of the pressed discs) to try on the player. How else are they going to test to see if it works?

tyrok · 02-14-2016, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bruceames.

How long can you wait for that? Can you get it at a different store? Only $4 in my case, but if I'm in the store anyway it'll be worth it to give it a shot.

Should be 15 days from purchase unless you are Elite (30 days) or Elite+ (45 days). Any Best Buy will do it.

eddybe · 02-14-2016, 11:50 PM

Let me see if anyone can answer this question. When watching HDR movies the picture settings will automatically change.

What are the settings that are supposed to change for HDR playback, and which settings stays the same?

I don't think anyone has answered this question yet, all that was said was settings should automatically change without defining which parameters.

bruceames · 02-14-2016, 11:53 PM

The Sony FMP-X10 media player changes my settings too, but the Sammy player doesn't (I assume it's because I don't have HDR). I think the ideal (HDR) settings would be specific to each TV model?

eddybe · 02-15-2016, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bruceames.

The Sony FMP-X10 media player changes my settings too, but the Sammy player doesn't (I assume it's because I don't have HDR). I think the ideal (HDR) settings would be specific to each TV model?

Yes I'm assuming this is true, but let's just say there are some settings such as Dynamic Contrast, Color Space, White Balance, Black Tone are not automatically changed. Each user has their own settings that may cause the picture to look terrible after the auto HDR settings take effect right?

Maybe that's why so many people are encountering issues to picture quality. Also tag on some people nit pick more than others.

bruceames · 02-15-2016, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eddybe

Yes I'm assuming this is true, but let's just say there are some settings such as Dynamic Contrast, Color Space, White Balance, Black Tone are not automatically changed. Each user has their own settings that may cause the picture to look terrible after the auto HDR settings take effect right?

Still very early, the format hasn't even launched yet (that would be 3/1, informal that it is). It's going to take a little trial and error experimenting (not to mention a few FW updates) before people discover the right settings for them. With HDR in the mix this all gets very complicated, far more so than the transition from DVD to Blu-ray.

Ian B · 02-15-2016, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bruceames.

They probably tested it on a Sony and called it a day.

Haven't heard of any issues from Sony TV owners...

I hope you are correct. My Sammy will be in tomorrow from BB, got 3 movies today, 4k hdmi on hand too.

Will report back once I test it with my Sony.

Ian B

aaronwt2065 · 02-15-2016, 03:59 AM

I have been very impressed this weekend after watching Kingsmen, most of The Martian, and a quarter of Hitman. I'm still amazed at how much difference the HDR and 4K make. And am looking forward to more titles. Especially the ones from sony that have 4K masters.

K i r a · 02-15-2016, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronwt2065

I have been very impressed this weekend after watching Kingsmen, most of The Martian, and a quarter of Hitman. I'm still amazed at how much difference the HDR and 4K make. And am looking forward to more titles. Especially the ones from sony that have 4K masters.

All of these posts are great and excite me for this format, but I'm still pretty keen on waiting for Sony's player. Some small quirks of this Samsung seem to be troublesome, that hopefully when Sony drops theirs they can not have as many problems.

Can't wait to rewatch Sicario and Kingsman in 4K!

FilmFreakosaurus · 02-15-2016, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by K i r a

All of these posts are great and excite me for this format, but I'm still pretty keen on waiting for Sony's player. Some small quirks of this Samsung seem to be troublesome, that hopefully when Sony drops theirs they can not have as many problems.

Can't wait to rewatch Sicario and Kingsman in 4K!

The most promising initial player is the Panasonic. Looks to be more upscale than the Sammy. Potentially with Dolby Vision too.

Ian B · 02-15-2016, 04:32 AM

Anyone using the Sony Model # XBR-49X850B with the K8500?

If not, I will report back tomorrow night once hooked up. Wont be using a receiver till decide to keep or not. In the meantime, will pair with a soundbar.

Ian B

winlonghorn · 02-15-2016, 08:51 AM

I will have my first UHD Bluray tomorrow afternoon from Best Buy via phone order. I ordered the martian. I will let you know my impression of it once I get it.

Mavrick · 02-15-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The most promising initial player is the Panasonic. Looks to be more upscale than the Sammy. Potentially with Dolby Vision too.

Also looking to be double the price of the Samsung too.

And Sony don't seem to be planning a release until at least next year, I think the Samsung is a perfect early adopter choice, no to expensive that it'll brake the bank, and capable enough to hold you over until the more advanced players hit the market.

Tns49 · 02-15-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The most promising initial player is the Panasonic. Looks to be more upscale than the Sammy. Potentially with Dolby Vision too.

The first Panasonic does not have Dolby Vision.

Dasbluman · 02-15-2016, 11:52 AM

My LG doesn't have HDR..that I'm aware but I'm still looking forward to 4K blu rays.

XJF · 02-15-2016, 01:40 PM

Once I switched the HDMI on my 850C to enhanced all of my issues were remedied. Picture is stunning. I'm currently 5½ft away.

Is it safe to run tv at max brightness and max contrast for the movies? Seems like a bad idea in general to me.

02-14-2016, 11:34 PM	#1404
eddybe Member Member since:Dec 2015 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:146	I've noticed for Samsumg JS9000 I have firmware version 1440, but the website has version 1441 available. No OTA update is available. Anyone know what changes are made for firmware version 1441? Maybe the issues some are having is due to firmware.

02-14-2016, 11:50 PM	#1407
eddybe Member Member since:Dec 2015 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:146	Let me see if anyone can answer this question. When watching HDR movies the picture settings will automatically change. What are the settings that are supposed to change for HDR playback, and which settings stays the same? I don't think anyone has answered this question yet, all that was said was settings should automatically change without defining which parameters.

02-14-2016, 11:53 PM	#1408
bruceames Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Nov 2012 Location:Novato, CA 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:1337 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:1	The Sony FMP-X10 media player changes my settings too, but the Sammy player doesn't (I assume it's because I don't have HDR). I think the ideal (HDR) settings would be specific to each TV model?

02-15-2016, 03:59 AM	#1412
aaronwt2065 Active Member Member since:Mar 2013 4K collection:266 Blu-ray collection:388	I have been very impressed this weekend after watching Kingsmen, most of The Martian, and a quarter of Hitman. I'm still amazed at how much difference the HDR and 4K make. And am looking forward to more titles. Especially the ones from sony that have 4K masters.

02-15-2016, 04:32 AM	#1415
Ian B Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Cedar Park, Texas	Anyone using the Sony Model # XBR-49X850B with the K8500? If not, I will report back tomorrow night once hooked up. Wont be using a receiver till decide to keep or not. In the meantime, will pair with a soundbar. Ian B

02-15-2016, 08:51 AM	#1416
winlonghorn Member Member since:Feb 2008	I will have my first UHD Bluray tomorrow afternoon from Best Buy via phone order. I ordered the martian. I will let you know my impression of it once I get it.

02-15-2016, 11:52 AM	#1419
Dasbluman Banned Member since:Feb 2016	My LG doesn't have HDR..that I'm aware but I'm still looking forward to 4K blu rays.

02-15-2016, 01:40 PM	#1420
XJF Active Member Member since:Mar 2010 4K collection:267 Blu-ray collection:1045 DVD collection:20	Once I switched the HDMI on my 850C to enhanced all of my issues were remedied. Picture is stunning. I'm currently 5½ft away. Is it safe to run tv at max brightness and max contrast for the movies? Seems like a bad idea in general to me.

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