Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[DualEdge]

Originally Posted by KillaCam

trying to decide wether to order the player from BB now or wait and see if there's a decent price drop anytime soon! I would hate to buy this and then it drop $50 or more within a month or two but at the same time I want to see what my UHDTV is actually capable of. Man oh man the difficult decisions we all face in the world today lol....

Pretty sure that the $399 amount is a promotional price that will actually go up to $499; at least that's what Samsung has been saying. Since the player was actually released into the wild early, I wouldn't be surprised to see the price change sometime after the "official" launch in 2 weeks.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by KillaCam

trying to decide wether to order the player from BB now or wait and see if there's a decent price drop anytime soon! I would hate to buy this and then it drop $50 or more within a month or two but at the same time I want to see what my UHDTV is actually capable of. Man oh man the difficult decisions we all face in the world today lol....

Obviously there will eventually be a price drop. Especially once rival players start hitting the market. But that could be a while from now. You could be waiting til the holidays. If you want UHD now, you better order the player immediately. Especially if it's true that Samsung is gonna jack up the price to 500 bucks after the official launch.

[KillaCam]

Well I went to order it this morning and it has sold out I should have just ordered it instead of overthinking it. Oh well I'll pick it up in store on launch unless they get it back in stock onlin before then. It seems that BB is the only retailer shipping them early.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by KillaCam

Well I went to order it this morning and it has sold out I should have just ordered it instead of overthinking it. Oh well I'll pick it up in store on launch unless they get it back in stock onlin before then. It seems that BB is the only retailer shipping them early.

Yep. Amazon and Best Buy seem to be out of stock. I'm curious to know how many units Samsung has manufactured for the launch. Cuz once those are sold out, there are no other options to play UHD discs aside from waiting.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by KillaCam

Well I went to order it this morning and it has sold out I should have just ordered it instead of overthinking it. Oh well I'll pick it up in store on launch unless they get it back in stock onlin before then. It seems that BB is the only retailer shipping them early.

Ask Robert Zohn of Value Electronics here on the forum. I had one on pre-order from him, he may still have spots left on his allocation, which I believe arrives tomorrow. Shoot, since I won't need my spot anymore, there might be a spot left! PM him.

[elwaylite]

They had the early release, with a planned 3/1 release full blown IIRC.

[KillaCam]

I'm wondering now if I should preorder one directly from Samsung as they are still accepting orders as of now. It says it will ship March 1st. Don't want to wait around and not be able to find one on launch day in store or take a chance of them being sold out online again.

[elwaylite]

Get one from VE.

[KillaCam]

Thanks guys, I sent an email to them and hopefully will hear back soon

[Kirk Out]

Will be picking this player up along with sicario and the martian

[Carlos2992]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why if an HDR disc is played, it automatically changes settings on the TV? Is this normal or it is a kind of glitch? Once the disc is playing, can you change the settings again?

[elwaylite]

HDR10 is sent to the display, and it goes into HDR mode if it has one, this is not an option to turn off, at least not on the Samsung player.

Some user settings are then blocked out.

[Carlos2992]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

HDR10 is sent to the display, and it goes into HDR mode if it has one, this is not an option to turn off, at least not on the Samsung player.

Some user settings are then blocked out.

Thanks. So if your settings automatically change when playing HDR content, and for example, you whant to change the colour or brightness settings because it is too much for your eyes, or you do not like what you see, you actually can't? That's not good in my opinion.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by Carlos2992

Thanks. So if your settings automatically change when playing HDR content, and for example, you whant to change the colour or brightness settings because it is too much for your eyes, or you do not like what you see, you actually can't? That's not good in my opinion.

On my OLED it locks out Contrast(white level) and the OLED Light(like back light on LCD), but brightness (black level) and others are open still. I imagine every display is different, but I think it wants Contrast and any backlight type setting max'd to handle the HDR bright highlights.

This is why I think you will have a 1080i/1080p mode if you calibrate your display, and then one triggered and cal'd for when the display has HDR and WCG.

[Taat21]

This is a really dumb question and I apologise but is HDCP 2.2 the same as HDR as I have that in all my HDMI Ports?

Thanks

[elwaylite]

"HDCP stands for High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection, a copy protection scheme to eliminate the possibility of intercepting digital data midstream between the source to the display." HDCP is tied to HDMI 2.0.

HDMI 2.0a is what is required for transporting HDR metadata.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Carlos2992

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why if an HDR disc is played, it automatically changes settings on the TV? Is this normal or it is a kind of glitch? Once the disc is playing, can you change the settings again?

These are actually instructions that are embedded in the HDR metadata to do so. I know a guy who does HDR grading of his own videos, and he litterally wrote the instruction into the metadata to trigger your settings. As far as i know, only backlight and contrast are written into the data, if any other settings change, it means that your particular tv company has its own additional instructions for when it detects HDR.

Originally Posted by Carlos2992

Thanks. So if your settings automatically change when playing HDR content, and for example, you whant to change the colour or brightness settings because it is too much for your eyes, or you do not like what you see, you actually can't? That's not good in my opinion.

all settings are still adjustable for the most part.

HDR is graded darker. so having a backlight at 20 (max) is about the same as having your backlight at like 10 for SDR. Most of the samsung owners then use their "dynamic contrast" setting to boost the image further, it makes the picture brighter and more vivid and gives more pop to the colors. but keeping this setting OFF, is actually too dark for me. So even though my backlight goes to 20, its still "too dark".

Also, there are settings on the 4k player itself which you can adjust including: color, brightness, contrast, sharpness, noise reduction.

[elwaylite]

Good to know HDR is graded darker because I had HDR mode trigger on my new Dish 4K Hopper, and it blows the whole damn image out (because it isnt HDR).

[Brad1963]

I placed an order and paid already in store at Best Buy (Magnolia) for when they get it in stock. Since I am late in the game, it could be 4 to 6 weeks possibly. But since I paid in full he said it could possibly be sooner. I figured that at least placing myself in a line I would eventually have one of the earlier shipments.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

Okay, once again, is it better on this player for the HDMI Color setting to use RGB(standard), RGB(enhanced), or YCbCr 4:4:4? Any help with this will be greatly appreciated! Also, I have the Sony 55x850c TV if that helps.

You want the settings to match the content as close as possible. Blu-rays are in 16-235 which is the represented by RGB's standard (or limited) mode. They're also YCbCr 4:2:0, but most players output 4:2:2 and/or 4:4:4 so you don't always have an extract match.

Not all displays feature full RGB mode either, it's usually a PC monitor feature (I'm not sure about 4K sets), I'm not sure what the specifications are for UHD BDs, I think they're wider than BDs.

In short, let your player handle the decision, use Auto if you have that option!