Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by SHOCKWAVE6464

Thank you. I asked because I noticed an Ultra HD Premium sticker on my Martian 4K and learned that UHDP only works on select tvs. Hopefully it works on mine

i think youve got some information twisted around.

these will play on your tv and will also display in HDR the best that your panel can since your tv has HDR decoding even though its not a SUHD samsung model.

[DeathToTNA]

I made a video showing how I configured the Samsung player and my Samsung TV. After many many tests and comparisons, these settings work best for me. Hope I can help some people out.

https://youtu.be/i2ZHzcDVknE

[Derb]

Originally Posted by katiehlvr2

Ive spent an easy 7 hours on comparing several movies. No doubt rgb enhanced is the best setting along with standard picture set for me.
Everything is so much darker on the ycbr.

All in all blu ray and uhd with rgb enhanced seem to be the best mixture without going in and manually adjusting everything.
Hope this helps any p or m series vizio owners

This.

I've only had 1 film going being The Martian.

Picture Mode - Standard
RGB - Enhanced

Don't have HDR TV but this looks the best so far. Will try some films without orange/red tone soon.

[Bodyslide]

Originally Posted by DeathToTNA

I made a video showing how I configured the Samsung player and my Samsung TV. After many many tests and comparisons, these settings work best for me. Hope I can help some people out.

https://youtu.be/i2ZHzcDVknE

Which Samsung TV do you have?

[DeathToTNA]

Originally Posted by Bodyslide

Which Samsung TV do you have?

Samsung UN55JU7100

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Derb

This.

I've only had 1 film going being The Martian.

Picture Mode - Standard
RGB - Enhanced

Don't have HDR TV but this looks the best so far. Will try some films without orange/red tone soon.

its certainly crazy how the opinions differ on RBG enhanced.


but the 1 major coralation, is that the people without HDR are almost unanimous that RGB enhanced fixes the black crush/dark picture issue.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by DeathToTNA

Samsung UN55JU7100

I believe this set does not have a 10 bit panel, WCG, nor HDR. The settings may need to be different for those with that set of features.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

I believe this set does not have a 10 bit panel, WCG, nor HDR. The settings may need to be different for those with that set of features.

please dont go off "assumption" or "opinion"


all samsung 2015 4k tvs were given HDR decoding by FW update.

How it looks is completely dependent on the panel technology of each tv. You are correct it does not have WCG, but the settings will snap into HDR mode when it receives the metadata from the 4k disc.



http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1441271852


“Samsung will issue a firmware update that will enable its 2015 SUHD and UHD TVs to display a broader library of High Dynamic Range (HDR) content now from external devices. HDR delivers a much higher level of contrast between light and dark to produce an image that is more realistic and closer to what the content creator imagined. The firmware update is available now at no additional cost to owners of 2015 Samsung SUHD and UHD TV’s.” wrote Samsung "

[Derb]

Originally Posted by ray0414

its certainly crazy how the opinions differ on RBG enhanced.


but the 1 major coralation, is that the people without HDR are almost unanimous that RGB enhanced fixes the black crush/dark picture issue.

I'll add that 30 minutes into "Exodus Gods & Kings" I stopped it & set Deep Color from Off to Auto. Skin tones now look much more accurate.

Could be the transfer too. Not a huge fan of this film but it's defintely the best I've seen so far.

[Marcus1284]

Hi guys,

I have receive my player last night.

Can you please tell what the best setting for both my TV and the player ?

I have a Samsung UN55JS8500

Thanks

[psicon]

I have a non-HDR Sony 850b and, I don't know if it's just the HDR to SDR, but even on user picture mode on the player with contrast changed to -5 the hilights get clipped. this same setting looks great on blu-Ray equivalent. Just played the first 10 minutes of mad max on UHD and HD and the scene where the water starts flowing there is loss of detail in the blown out whites that's visible in the blu. Other than that it appears slightly more detailed.
Guess I need to play around some more (or get an HDR TV)

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by ray0414

all samsung 2015 4k tvs were given HDR decoding by FW update.

How it looks is completely dependent on the panel technology of each tv. You are correct it does not have WCG, but the settings will snap into HDR mode when it receives the metadata from the 4k disc.

It appears a new HDMI 2.1 revision is adding a dynamic HDR metadata feature (per leaked Philips HDR roadmap whitepaper linked below) to address HDR inconsistencies/inaccuracy between different displays due to limitations and different HDR implementations. No indication yet if this will require all new hardware for this feature or a firmware update - but will definitely depend on manufacturer support:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=274627

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by Marcus1284

Hi guys,

I have receive my player last night.

Can you please tell what the best setting for both my TV and the player ?

I have a Samsung UN55JS8500

Thanks

You can Google what settings to use on the 8500. They're probably not too different from what I wound up going with on the 9500. I will say that I have UHD Color turned on.

As for the player, I've settled on Deep Color Off, HDMI Color on YCbCr 4:4:4, and the Picture setting on Dynamic once the UHD disc is playing. Out of the 14 UHD titles I've got, the only one that arguably suffers at all from the Dynamic setting is Amazing Spider-Man 2. The skin tones are a tiny bit reddish compared to when I leave it on Standard. But otherwise, I've found no other issues.

[Tns49]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

You can Google what settings to use on the 8500. They're probably not too different from what I wound up going with on the 9500. I will say that I have UHD Color turned on.

As for the player, I've settled on Deep Color Off, HDMI Color on YCbCr 4:4:4, and the Picture setting on Dynamic once the UHD disc is playing. Out of the 14 UHD titles I've got, the only one that arguably suffers at all from the Dynamic setting is Amazing Spider-Man 2. The skin tones are a tiny bit reddish compared to when I leave it on Standard. But otherwise, I've found no other issues.

NOTE most of those settings are display settings not K8500 settings. I think only deep color for the k8500 and AUTO on is being reported by some as recommended. Note I am not even sure that some of the k8500 settings mean anything for 4k output. They were there on older models where TV's might not handshake all their compatibilities.


I have my k8500, and 7 Ultra HD Blu-ray, but i'm still waiting on my LG OLED to ship.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by Tns49

NOTE most of those settings are display settings not K8500 settings. I think only deep color for the k8500 and AUTO on is being reported by some as recommended. Note I am not even sure that some of the k8500 settings mean anything for 4k output. They were there on older models where TV's might not handshake all their compatibilities.

They're picture settings on the K8500 though. And I've played around with it enough that I can vouch for the settings I've got as having definitely improved the picture quality on UHD titles. What I absolutely do not recommend is RGB Enhanced. It looks great on certain discs. But others are almost unwatchable at times.

[Tns49]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

They're picture settings on the K8500 though. And I've played around with it enough that I can vouch for the settings I've got as having definitely improved the picture quality on UHD titles. What I absolutely do not recommend is RGB Enhanced. It looks great on certain discs. But others are almost unwatchable at times.

Okay. just check on mine, the settings for HDMI and Deep color are for the K8500. And both should be at AUTO. RGB standard and enhanced are not recommended for UHD titles although perhaps are being incorrectly selected by the k8500. Note that some of the people are mentionting picture settings that are are actually on the TV, although with HDMI-CEC can be controlled by the k8t00. E.G picture mode vivid, dynamic etc.

[Marcus1284]

Thanks guy I will check google for my 55JS8500.
BD Wise on the player ?

[timbobarry]

Received the player in the mail yesterday and tested out some movies. I have an LG UH8500 series TV. I turned on Deep Color on the HDMI port. I then played with the settings on the player and tried 4:4:4 and Deep Color. Colors were very vibrant on 4K Blu-rays and was impressed. The TV instantly changes to HDR mode when it recognizes the signal. The screen cuts out in between the opening scene into the menu but will come back up after a few seconds. I then tested out regular Blu-rays and the colors were having problems. Peoples faces were extremely red instead of slightly pink. So I turned the picture to Auto instead of 4:4:4 in the player. This corrected the color issue on regular Blu-rays. I did notice that the HDMI handshake is somewhat finicky. I use a receiver for passthrough so I watch cable and play video games through the same HDMI port to the TV. There's a handshake issue if you start out from another source and then switch to the 4K Blu-ray player source. I had to turn off the TV with the 4K Blu-ray source selected. Then turn the TV back on so it could successfully handshake.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by Tns49

Okay. just check on mine, the settings for HDMI and Deep color are for the K8500. And both should be at AUTO. RGB standard and enhanced are not recommended for UHD titles although perhaps are being incorrectly selected by the k8500. Note that some of the people are mentionting picture settings that are are actually on the TV, although with HDMI-CEC can be controlled by the k8t00. E.G picture mode vivid, dynamic etc.

I originally had it on Auto for HDMI Color, but that was when I had it on Standard for the Picture settings. I don't think I've ever tried Dynamic with HDMI Color on Auto, only on 4:4:4. I'll give that a shot tonight and see how it handles UHD and Blu-rays.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to play both formats on the Samsung without having to switch any settings depending on what kind of disc it is. Dynamic and 4:4:4 looks great for UHD and mostly great for Blu-rays, although the skin tones are occasionally a little too pink or reddish(but not to the point of distraction).

Worst case scenario, I could always just stick with the K8500 for UHD(and Amazon streaming once they enable HDR) and the Oppo 103 for Blu-rays, DVDs, and VUDU streaming.

[Derb]

I need to check out 4:4:4. Been using enhanced.

As for player preset to "Dynamic", that mode should be renamed "Store Demo" mode instead. It's just as bad as TVs which offer that preset. Ouch.

Watched,

Martian - Looks good
Exodus - Looks best so far
Fantastic 4 - Looks good
Pineapple Express - Looks like a BD