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View Poll Results: Are you gonna hold off bluray disk purchases now, to wait for ultraHD bluray?
YES 63 9.69%
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:39 PM   #21
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I chose "NO" for a number of reasons:

Blu-ray is the last update I will be making. Also, the studios all too often never put in their best effort with Blu-ray and I see no reason to trust that they will moving forward. From my personal viewing experience, 4K just doesn't have the effect of "revolution" that Blu-ray had over DVD. Like DVD was to VHS. More like an evolution and one that, again from my personal viewing experiences, will require awfully big screens(that don't even exist, let alone what insane price tag they will carry) to reach that level of "revolution".
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:39 PM   #22
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Has anyone seen any examples of Blu's upscaled on 4K devices?
Nope.

Everybody that owns a 4K TV is either streaming or playing DVD/VHS/LD.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:41 PM   #23
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I may buy the UHD combo packs to future proof, but ill still buy Blu-rays.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:43 PM   #24
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That's what DVD owners said about blu. UHD is on the horizon, better just accept it!
It's hardly the same situation. DVD is completely incapable of reproducing the theatrical quality of movies, while blu-ray is almost the same resolution as most digital movie screens and most movies... not to mention physical media dying a slow death. Studios may decide it's worth catering to some tiny audience of videophiles that embrace UHD, but I'll wait for that to happen before investing much money into it.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:50 PM   #25
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I voted yes as though I am only holding out on certain BD rereleases such as Rocky, Terminator 2, 5th Element and Leon. I will even more focus my BD purchases on titles that are not mainstream as I believe they won't either be released on UHD BD or they will look quite same.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:53 PM   #26
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It's hardly the same situation. DVD is completely incapable of reproducing the theatrical quality of movies, while blu-ray is almost the same resolution as most digital movie screens and most movies... not to mention physical media dying a slow death. Studios may decide it's worth catering to some tiny audience of videophiles that embrace UHD, but I'll wait for that to happen before investing much money into it.
My same stance.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:55 PM   #27
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Personally, I think digital download will never eradicate physical media. People like to own things. Hell with digital download.
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I don't have a 4K TV and in general have little interest since there are no longer plasmas on the market and LCD's are a joke, for the most part. Hopefully by the time my plasma dies years from now OLED will be affordable and have all of the bugs worked out. 4K on a 60 inch TV is mostly a waste anyway aside from a small noticeable increase in resolution and color. There's little benefit. It's not like the leap from VHS to DVD or anything. Far from it. If you have a 150 inch screen with a 4K projector, sure, I see the appeal though.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:07 PM   #29
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...es-and-titles/
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:13 PM   #30
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Personally, I think digital download will never eradicate physical media. People like to own things. Hell with digital download.
I can't say, but will UHD be left standing, or an older format that's "good enough"? I strongly suspect it will sputter out into niche-dom like SACD and DVDA, unless studios start shooting a lot more content that 4K TVs can benefit from. The fact is that almost all the big blockbusters that traditionally move truckloads of blu-rays are done at 2K, so you'll get some meager improvement in compression and color but that's about it.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:20 PM   #31
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i just look at it if the prices of disks is the same or close to being the same. It makes sense to buy the UltraHD/bluray combo vs. The Bluray combo. At least your future proofed for down the road when eventually you buy a 4k tv/projector.
I mean you can't say 4k bluray won't be much better because we havn't seen it yet. Everyone thought DVD was "good enough" untill blurays came out and blew people away.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:23 PM   #32
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Personally, I think digital download will never eradicate physical media. People like to own things. Hell with digital download.
People on this forum like to own things.

People in general don't seem to care if a movie sits on their shelf.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:32 PM   #33
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I mean you can't say 4k bluray won't be much better because we havn't seen it yet. Everyone thought DVD was "good enough" untill blurays came out and blew people away.
I've seen a lot of theatrical 4K projection - which is less compressed and higher resolution than UltraHD bluray - and frankly I can only distinguish it from a 2K presentation if I sit in the nosebleed seats where you start to see pixels in the 2K image. That may change as more movies are shot on cameras that deliver legit, sharp 4K footage (and carry it through to the screen), but for the vast majority of the existing cinematic catalog, 4K will be the tale of diminishing returns.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:40 PM   #34
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I won't be able to upgrade to a 4K tv and UHD Blu-ray for some time. If UHD blu-ray/blu-ray combo editions start happening for roughly the same price or a few bucks more than blu-ray, I will get the UHD blu-ray combo and (as others have said) future-proof.

I am a fan of tv on blu-ray releases. The studios don't seem to stick with tv shows they start releasing on blu-ray especially studios like Fox. I wonder if there will even be many tv shows on UHD blu-ray?
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:42 PM   #35
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I won't be able to upgrade to a 4K tv and UHD Blu-ray for some time. If UHD blu-ray/blu-ray combo editions start happening for roughly the same price or a few bucks more than blu-ray, I will get the UHD blu-ray combo and (as others have said) future-proof.

I am a fan of tv on blu-ray releases. The studios don't seem to stick with tv shows they start releasing on blu-ray especially studios like Fox. I wonder if there will even be many tv shows on UHD blu-ray?
I expect Breaking Bad will be an early UHD offering, since Sony spent the money to remaster it in 4k. I doubt most other content providers will go to the trouble, since they don't have 4K hardware to sell.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:47 PM   #36
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People on this forum like to own things.

People in general don't seem to care if a movie sits on their shelf.
People in general don't buy individual movies for $20 each. While subscription services and ad-supported streaming are doing well, individual movie sales of downloads and streaming are not. Physical media will continue to make the highest profit on a per movie basis. Collectors are great for business and the studios can't afford to lose them all.
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Love the "blanket" that article throws in on "backwards compatible"...

So...Sony is finally going to play DVD-A?
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:01 PM   #38
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I can't say, but will UHD be left standing, or an older format that's "good enough"? I strongly suspect it will sputter out into niche-dom like SACD and DVDA, unless studios start shooting a lot more content that 4K TVs can benefit from. The fact is that almost all the big blockbusters that traditionally move truckloads of blu-rays are done at 2K, so you'll get some meager improvement in compression and color but that's about it.
Yea, and you just mentioned two audio formats that the studios screwed up on. The whole audio format war and considering the sheer amount of music titles out there over the decades and decades, the abysmal amount offered up on either side of the aisle at that time showed that the studios were not serious. I think the early consensus is as you said, that UHD physical media will be a niche product. While I don't use it for movies or TV shows per-se, except to watch the odd You-tube video at my computer.......streaming is here to stay. Yes, more and more stuff will be shot in higher and higher resolution. The problem is, like a lot of things, you run into a sort of "law of diminishing returns". Like horsepower in a cars: For most, you can have so much and then it becomes absurd, let alone that law of diminishing returns that gives you x amount of performance at a price most can absorb over that extra 10 percent that now costs twice as much to get. How long is the public willing or see enough gain in the technology to warrant upgrading again in slow economic times? Certainly you can just put it out there and eventually all TV's will be UHD by default, whether the customer has access to UHD level content or not.
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:24 PM   #39
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Nope, I have a smaller living room with only a 46" screen that blu-rays look great on. Even if I had space for a much bigger screen I won't be able to afford one for quite some time making the decision to stick with blu an easy one.
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The only UHD BDs I could see myself getting, if they come out, are the Hobbit film because I really did love the HFR 3D versions even if the films themselves were kind of weak. Mind you they wouldn't be 3D but HFR 2D is still fine by me.
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