Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[Worship.my.wreck]

I immediately put my preorder in for TCM: TNG. I still need to get the rest of the series though.

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

The sinister, hidden oligarchy subtext is certainly there; the rich feeding off the poor (literally) expressed via the actual freaking Illuminati. It's so insane.

But I find the far more intriguing message in TCM4 is the director's outlook on toxic horror fandom, how we overtake "classics" and demand increasingly outrageous sequels then b!tch about how unlike the original they are.

Then there's also the more philosophical idea that horror filmmakers and fans are cruel to their fictional characters, trapping them in a never-ending loop of terror, getting brutalized over and over again for all eternity. I like that one too.

I especially love the scene where Zellweger's character climbs onto the roof of the chainsaw house and literally tries to ESCAPE the movie. She's reaching towards the sky, almost like she's begging "WTF is wrong with you?! Why are you just watching this? Get me out of here!" And let's not forget that amazingly meta scene in the limo where the Illuminati villain outright apologizes for making everyone suffer through such an off-the-rails mess.

It's so meta it hurts. I genuinely adore TCM:TNG.

What do you think of 2, 3, the remake and Beginning?

[LawnFurniture]

Fantastic and entertaining analysis on the film for those interested.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4: The Next Generation | FEVER FILMS - YouTube

[CreepyThinMan]

Originally Posted by dissention

What a bizarre double feature. I'd buy it.

They both star Lisa Schrage, so they fit together pretty well while also being great Canadian B-horror movies.

[CreepyThinMan]

Originally Posted by DenOfEarth

Me too this year!

I hope this week they will announce Creepshow CE, Tremors CE, some WB Hammer stuff, The Blob, The Fly II, Critters 1 and 2, Twilight Zone The Movie, Demolition Man, Cobra or whatever i always want Scream to do.

I desperately want Creepshow, The Blob, Critters 2, The Twilight Zone Movie special editions.

[JackForrester]

Originally Posted by jmat91

Yep! The film is all aboutCapitalists ordering meat from the sawyers family to give to powers higher up. Very dark and funny satire on the secret elite that run the world.

Also about dysfunctional families and sexual oppression.
It's by far the most intelligent film after the original.

[brettxwt]

If people weren't so afraid of importing REGION FREE titles, they wouldn't be so dependent and rely on Scream Factory! to release things for them There are more than adequate and satisfactory releases of the Blob, Fright Night, Night of the Living Dead, etc. available overseas that some refuse to import and it boggles my mind. I'm at a loss why people want a damn slipcover so badly

[starsteam]

Something interesting to note - the movies being featured in this year's live tour of MST3K are The Brain (1988) and Deathstalker. MST3K is owned by Shout now (though Shout doesn't own all of the movies featured in the new episodes) but it's possible we may see The Brain on Blu-ray from them in the future.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by DenOfEarth

What do you think of 2, 3, the remake and Beginning?

TCM2 is fun. It’s witty and it has a lot to say about mid-80s socioeconomics and misogyny as well. I find the latter especially intriguing, since it’s mostly subtext while the hippies and yuppies thing is a bit more overt. I also appreciate its place in the timeline of slasher winking at the audience, become more satirical, and playing the tropes more on the nose, like the later Sleepaway Camp and Elm Street movies most prominently did once Freddy and Angela started cracking jokes while they were in the middle of slashing throats.

Leatherface: TCM3 is an interesting creature though. I really wish the uncut version survived so I could jude it in its full intended context, but sadly that seems like an impossibility at this point. As it is, I think it’s a pretty good movie. It’s certainly darker than the previous installment. But I respect that fact that it really tried to “go there” and be as brutal as possible. I’m just sad we didn’t get the finished product the director wanted us to see. I also love the weird subplot where it’s suggested that the tall, dark, handsome savior-turned-villain played by Viggo Mortensen might be gay. That’s another really fascinating nugget of subtext hidden in a random TCM sequel that I wish was explored a little bit more.

TCM (2003) came out when I was a kid. I remember buying the VHS at a yard sale because I was already into scary movies and thought the cover looked cool and the name sounded familiar. I completely bought into the whole “based on a true story,” “real footage from the scene of the crimes” stuff. When the narrator says the final line of the film “the case today remains open,” I almost sh!t myself. I think the sound design is beyond superb, the cinematography is eerily bleak and desolate. The entire atmosphere feels isolated and claustrophobic despite being wide open. It’s also got one of the greatest jump scares of all time. I really liked it a lot.

As for The Beginning, I haven’t seen it in a while. It came out when I was young too. I remember at that point I had already familiarized myself with the rest of the franchise and was excited seeing the TV spots and stuff. When it finally came out, I rented it and was pretty disappointed. It was dark and grim, almost mean-spirited. And the origin story felt like too much of a retread of the remake. But seeing it again with more mature eyes, I really like it for what it is. Most of the movies in the TCM franchise are basically reboots, so that didn’t bother me as much. And looking back, this film was a product of its time 100%. Viewing it with that historic lens made the brutality easier to swallow for me. It’s almost like pseudo-torture porn, which makes complete sense considering it came out around the same time as films like Hostel and Saw were taking off. Culturally, post-9/11 angst was being express on the big screen and this prequel was absolutely one of the movies that did that.

Even though there’s very little continuity tying the various installments of this franchise together, I actually think it's one of the better slasher movie series out there overall. All of the movies have something to say beyond just showing people getting slaughtered. You can't say that about every horror franchise.

[tellybox]

Originally Posted by CreepyThinMan

I really wish Scream Factory would put out a Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night 2 and Gnaw, Food of the Gods part 2 double bill. I'd buy that.

All I want is an HD remaster for Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night 2. One of my favourite slashers from the 80's.

[1234567?]

Originally Posted by jmat91

Yep! The film is all aboutCapitalists ordering meat from the sawyers family to give to powers higher up. Very dark and funny satire on the secret elite that run the world.

Interesting.^
That really wasn't what Henkel was going for though. It was more of a higher up secret society/ part of government that was instilling fear on to society. Either way vary similar.

But, however Henkel's next film the Butcher Boys did tap on to that scenario for that film.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by 1234567?

Interesting.^
That really wasn't what Henkel was going for though. It was more of a higher up secret society/ part of government that was instilling fear on to society. Either way vary similar.

But, however Henkel's next film the Butcher Boys did tap on to that scenario for that film.

I like how it's suggested that the Illuminati in TCM4 are behind all horror film scenarios, secretly pulling the strings of other slasher villains.

It has a very Cabin in the Woods vibe to me, thought that film is much more overt with it's message.

[1234567?]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

I like how it's suggested that the Illuminati in TCM4 are behind all horror film scenarios, secretly pulling the strings of other slasher villains.

It has a very Cabin in the Woods vibe to me, thought that one is much more overt with it's message.

Agreed, I know a lot of people hated that bit in TCM:TNG, but I loved it. Adds a lot of weirdness to it and some people either get it or don't get it.

[redrunner97]

Speaking of underrated sequels...

I noticed everyone is raving about how great When a Stranger Calls Back is ever since it hit Amazon Prime recently. I'd love to see Scream Factory pick up this one from Universal (I believe?), especially if they're planning on grabbing the first one from Sony.

It's by far the best of the trilogy, and the only one not available on blu-ray anywhere in the world. Help us Scream Factory, you're our only hope.

[BluPat]

Originally Posted by bsend

Isn't that owned by Dimension Extreme?

I know they released it on DVD here in the US. I'm not sure who has it now.
I just wish we could get a Blu-ray here.

[jmat91]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

Speaking of underrated sequels...

I noticed everyone is raving about how great When a Stranger Calls Back is ever since it hit Amazon Prime recently. I'd love to see Scream Factory pick up this one from Universal (I believe?), especially if they're planning on grabbing the first one from Sony.

Agree! a very solid 90s thriller that I would love to see in HD. Its a reality now, maybe even if they do a barebones release and price it at a lower tier.

[jmat91]

I never liked TCM 4 as a young one...however when I started working (slaving away) TCM 4 really stood out to me. When you've worked for a soulless money grabbing corporation, you see the elite in their roles of power...it clicked with me and made complete sense.
They were the type that would order meat and feed of them, Much like their workers. @hawkangel knows what I'm talking about, but I should assume positive intent ...

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by CreepyThinMan

I desperately want Creepshow, The Blob, Critters 2, The Twilight Zone Movie special editions.

Maybe we'll get them this week or at the end of this month or the comic con or in July in the announcements.

Once they are announced i'm gonna sell my old DVDs to my town's local library.

Originally Posted by starsteam

Something interesting to note - the movies being featured in this year's live tour of MST3K are The Brain (1988) and Deathstalker. MST3K is owned by Shout now (though Shout doesn't own all of the movies featured in the new episodes) but it's possible we may see The Brain on Blu-ray from them in the future.

The Brain would be good along as that never had a BD or DVD before only in bootlegs.

Originally Posted by redrunner97

Speaking of underrated sequels...

I noticed everyone is raving about how great When a Stranger Calls Back is ever since it hit Amazon Prime recently. I'd love to see Scream Factory pick up this one from Universal (I believe?), especially if they're planning on grabbing the first one from Sony.

It's by far the best of the trilogy, and the only one not available on blu-ray anywhere in the world. Help us Scream Factory, you're our only hope.

Yes maybe we can have a CE of the original and a BD of the sequel.

[BarnDoor]

Wow they aren't done for September - Scream for Help coming 18th September:



Finally a Warner title, and one never released on DVD.

[themp3000]

Oh excellent, I’m always up for a Michael Winner film.