Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[fuzzymctiger]

I just never really got the hoo haa about Region Free players being expensive or whatever, because I got one for about $54, and it works an absolute charm.

[Metallix87]

Originally Posted by fuzzymctiger

I just never really got the hoo haa about Region Free players being expensive or whatever, because I got one for about $54, and it works an absolute charm.

A high quality one will cost an extra $100 or so more than a high quality BD player.

[Ill_Be_Back]

I was hoping for an announcement for new titles by now.

[theprestige85]

Originally Posted by Metallix87

Region coding is a very archaic thing now, what with so many region free releases, and with region free players becoming much more commonplace. I do think the Blu-Ray Forum, who are hard at work on a 4K BD media format as we speak, should consider dropping the regions altogether in favor of one region free standard.

Here here, my friend. This region locking stuff is dodgy business. Why shouldn't we be allowed to watch certain films all because some distributor thinks it won't sell well in my country?

[neoz]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

Here here, my friend. This region locking stuff is dodgy business. Why shouldn't we be allowed to watch certain films all because some distributor thinks it won't sell well in my country?

Key word right there is business. While we all dislike everything being region free the companies probably don't care. Why make all movies region free versus locking them and preventing the standard consumer the chance to get it cheaper by importing it. Most of us that import have scored some titles for cheaper then buying say the US version. I'm sure most companies want to avoid doing that as it would be a loss in profit for them.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

Here here, my friend. This region locking stuff is dodgy business. Why shouldn't we be allowed to watch certain films all because some distributor thinks it won't sell well in my country?

That is ridiculous. That's definitely not why its Region Locked, makes no sense.

Region Locking is for a few reasons mainly:
- New Releases are available in some countries before others, Region Coding helps to prevent piracy.

- Money, one companies release of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (for example), won't sell well if everyone has already Imported a foreign disc.

- Rights are held by different companies on a country-to-country basis, if everyone were allowed to import in this "digital age", then rights would be screwed up, Internationally.

I don't like region coding either, but I understand why its common.
Its NOT the studio's fault, and its not because they don't want your money, that's nonsense.

[theprestige85]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

That is ridiculous. That's definitely not why its Region Locked, makes no sense.

Region Locking is for a few reasons mainly:
- New Releases are available in some countries before others, Region Coding helps to prevent piracy.

- Money, one companies release of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (for example), won't sell well if everyone has already Imported a foreign disc.

- Rights are held by different companies on a country-to-country basis, if everyone were allowed to import in this "digital age", then rights would be screwed up, Internationally.

I don't like region coding either, but I understand why its common.
Its NOT the studio's fault, and its not because they don't want your money, that's nonsense.

How does region coding help prevent piracy when it comes to new blu rays of old films???? Your point would make sense if it was a fresh cinema release that's come out several months before a foreign release, but it doesn't make sense for any company to region lock, say, Ginger Snaps since it's been available on other formats since 2000.

I also don't buy your money theory. I don't get what you are saying, are you saying that if every country had, say, Ginger Snaps, so and so company wouldn't profit? That's negative thinking. If anything it's good for competition as it would encourage distributors to make their version distinctive by adding more extras, exclusive packaging, different cuts, etc. If Scream was the only one to licence all of their films and make it region free - 85% of which aren't available in any other regions, how would they lose money if they are the only distributors selling???

I'm not up to scratch on this licensing stuff so pardon my ignorance, but i'm interested in this.

[chetripley80]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

How does region coding help prevent piracy when it comes to new blu rays of old films???? Your point would make sense if it was a fresh cinema release that's come out several months before a foreign release, but it doesn't make sense for any company to region lock, say, Ginger Snaps since it's been available on other formats since 2000.

I also don't buy your money theory. I don't get what you are saying, are you saying that if every country had, say, Ginger Snaps, so and so company wouldn't profit? That's negative thinking. If anything it's good for competition as it would encourage distributors to make their version distinctive by adding more extras, exclusive packaging, different cuts, etc. If Scream was the only one to licence all of their films and make it region free - 85% of which aren't available in any other regions, how would they lose money if they are the only distributors selling???

I'm not up to scratch on this licensing stuff so pardon my ignorance, but i'm interested in this.

It prevents piracy of the HD transfer that company put out.

Rights owners limit region coding on titles they license so they can earn additional profits from selling licenses to the same titles in other countries. There is also the issue of who owns the right to films in different jurisdictions sometimes.

Redrunner was spot on with his post.

[theprestige85]

Ah right. Fair enough then.

Still, the world would be a happier place if all blu's were region free.

[ultlife2013]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

Ah right. Fair enough then.



Still, the world would be a happier place if all blu's were region free.

Region free bluray players aren't that expensive.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

How does region coding help prevent piracy when it comes to new blu rays of old films???? Your point would make sense if it was a fresh cinema release that's come out several months before a foreign release, but it doesn't make sense for any company to region lock, say, Ginger Snaps since it's been available on other formats since 2000.

I also don't buy your money theory. I don't get what you are saying, are you saying that if every country had, say, Ginger Snaps, so and so company wouldn't profit? That's negative thinking. If anything it's good for competition as it would encourage distributors to make their version distinctive by adding more extras, exclusive packaging, different cuts, etc. If Scream was the only one to licence all of their films and make it region free - 85% of which aren't available in any other regions, how would they lose money if they are the only distributors selling???

I'm not up to scratch on this licensing stuff so pardon my ignorance, but i'm interested in this.

Region coding doesn't prevent piracy. AACS was meant to prevent it but as with all DRM we saw how quickly it was cracked. The whole reason why Sony introduced Cinavia but it's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to defeat that technology.

Fox and Disney are the main studios that pushed for region locking.

[theprestige85]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Region coding doesn't prevent piracy. AACS was meant to prevent it but as with all DRM we saw how quickly it was cracked. The whole reason why Sony introduced Cinavia but it's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to defeat that technology.

Fox and Disney are the main studios that pushed for region locking.

I don't disagree with you, you need to mention that to the other blokes on this thread because that what they are saying.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

I don't disagree with you, you need to mention that to the other blokes on this thread because that what they are saying.

I was simply supplementing your post if not agreeing with you on the subject.

[theprestige85]

Oh ok mate, no worries.

[Doctor.Who]

Originally Posted by Doctor.Who

I used gift cards from Christmas to order them today if that counts?
1)the Howling
2)Night of the Comet
3)Ninja 3 damnation
4)They Live

I'm disappointed. I had to get refunds something happened in transit.
But I found them on FamilyVideo.com

[Metallix87]

Originally Posted by Doctor.Who

I'm disappointed. I had to get refunds something happened in transit.
But I found them on FamilyVideo.com

Sorry to hear that. It does happen, though.

[dressedtokill]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Unfortunately out worst nightmares have now become a reality:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/62342/cat-people/

I know it was pretty much a given considering it's from Universal and the German release but still…

[rickah88]

Cat People: The Ultimate Hunter Edition.

Well I'm still happy to buy it an support SF, but can't help but shake my head ruefully at Universal.
I'm convinced Universal is still bitter they lost the format war.

[lionel74]

I won't be supporting Shout on this one. Knowingly releasing movies with sub-standard transfers will ultimately kill off dedicated supporters of the label.

If the transfer isn't up to scratch they should pull the release, but that's just my opinion.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by lionel74

I won't be supporting Shout on this one. Knowingly releasing movies with sub-standard transfers will ultimately kill off dedicated supporters of the label.

If the transfer isn't up to scratch they should pull the release, but that's just my opinion.

Just so you understand, it's not SF's fault. They can only work with the transfer they are given. Universal mastered this for hd dvd, and hasn't dusted it off since. At least SF is adding some extras and packaging it with a nice slipcover, which is leagues more than Universal is doing with the title.
Which is exactly why I support the smaller companies like SF & TT. Without their efforts there would be a bunch of films (most likely) never to reach the format.
Obviously a new transfer would be ideal, but most of these smaller budgets don't allow for it.