Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by WesReviews

All this talk about commissioned artwork sparked a question in my head...

Would you give up having special, new commissioned artwork for each Scream Factory release, if that meant they could lower the cost of each release?

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Of course, I'd give up commissioned art work in exchange for lower prices.

People who collect packaging would be better off collecting action figures. Movie fans don't need crap standing between us an the movie. I throw slipcovers in the trash as do many retailers. Excess packing adds no value. It only adds expense. Movie fans shouldn't have to pay the tab for that fringe of art collectors who are attracted by shiny things.

It's unfortunate that a company like Scream caters to such people. Production money should go into the production of superior Blu-rays. It's wasted on worthless art and packaging.

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by The Peanut Monkey

Was that direct or from Amazon?

Not sure I really appreciate the tone of that; of course I can live without a slip... but I like them, I have a bunch of movies with them, and I don't see what's so wrong with wanting to continue that. Live and let live.

I just think they are flimsy pieces of cardboard that are identical to the artwork, and get damaged half the time either by shipping or by a doofus sales clerk at best buy who CRAMS!! it into a metal display shelf. And they don't align well with non slip cover titles.. Id rather the money be spent on buying popular titles and not a slipcover.

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

Of course, I'd give up commissioned art work in exchange for lower prices.

People who collect packaging would be better off collecting action figures. Movie fans don't need crap standing between us an the movie. I throw slipcovers in the trash as do many retailers. Excess packing adds no value. It only adds expense. Movie fans shouldn't have to pay the tab for that fringe of art collectors who are attracted by shiny things.

It's unfortunate that a company like Scream caters to such people. Production money should go into the production of superior Blu-rays. It's wasted on worthless art and packaging.

I agree, although I don't throw them out, I don't care if it comes with one or not.

[tommynorcal]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

Of course, I'd give up commissioned art work in exchange for lower prices.

People who collect packaging would be better off collecting action figures. Movie fans don't need crap standing between us an the movie. I throw slipcovers in the trash as do many retailers. Excess packing adds no value. It only adds expense. Movie fans shouldn't have to pay the tab for that fringe of art collectors who are attracted by shiny things.

It's unfortunate that a company like Scream caters to such people. Production money should go into the production of superior Blu-rays. It's wasted on worthless art and packaging.

This is generally my school of thought. Quality of picture and sound over a piece of damn cardboard...

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by returnofthemack

Yes... In a lot of ways the forum is the 3rd grade. "I don't like I when posters go off topic with useless wish lists. I'm telling teacher (mods)."

Australia's release of beastmaster is off topic. It has nothing to do with scream factory and at best would belong on a shout factory wish list. If you hate when we go off topic with useless wish lists why contribute to off topic conversation? Personally I don't care if you talk about beastmaster but If you feel you have the right to say something when you feel someone goes off topic why isn't it fair for someone to give you the business when you go off topic?

I understand threads will go off topic, they always do(like right now, with you). Had you read my initital post agreeing with someone else, I stated that the rampant posting of wishlists was out of control. I get that people want to express their enthusiasm, and like to do so myself...but taking up a dozen pages doing so? That's just too excessive.
Of course I'm going to mention the Mods, because one of them posted in this thread, about this very line of posting and wanted it to cease...yet here you are dredging it all back up.
So all I did was agree with someone about rampant wishlist posting, then was "called out" by several members of this thread for stating my opinion about it. So am I to conclude that I'm being singled out for my opinion? If so, that doesn't say much about those doing the singling out.
If you're going to argue with someone, at least, get your facts straight.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by shredking9000

I like the new art too. However, I would prefer them to stop including the DVDs if it meant lowering the price some.

Being a niche label they could probably get away with that, and not have any negative blowback. I just wonder how much it would lower the cost?
I'd rather see them just make barebones releases packaged in an envelope for $10 for all the package haters out there. They would get the movie, on a disc, in an envelope, and that's it. If physical media ever came to that, I'd just look into streaming. Talk about a nightmare! Thankfully, I don't have to worry about that for the foreseeable future.

[Catastrophe]

We can stop asking Scream Factory for Popcorn (1991) now; Synapse officially announced it on Facebook today.

[returnofthemack]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I understand threads will go off topic, they always do(like right now, with you). Had you read my initital post agreeing with someone else, I stated that the rampant posting of wishlists was out of control. I get that people want to express their enthusiasm, and like to do so myself...but taking up a dozen pages doing so? That's just too excessive.
Of course I'm going to mention the Mods, because one of them posted in this thread, about this very line of posting and wanted it to cease...yet here you are dredging it all back up.
So all I did was agree with someone about rampant wishlist posting, then was "called out" by several members of this thread for stating my opinion about it. So am I to conclude that I'm being singled out for my opinion? If so, that doesn't say much about those doing the singling out.
If you're going to argue with someone, at least, get your facts straight.

It's take to to tango. It's not just me dredging it back up. I wouldn't call this an argument but if you feel like I'm singling you out then I apologize. You most certainly are not the only one who feels that way about wish lists. The whole reason we get dozens of pages of wish lists is bc they build up one by one. Posts just like the guy who likes beastmaster (which you were ok with). No one likes to be called out for being off topic, it's petty so I apologize for that as well. I'll drop it.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by captveg

Has anyone ever asked about the MGM-controlled Suture (1993)? It could work within the Scream Factory label even though it's not exactly straight forward horror.

Suture is wayyyy too arty/abstract for Scream.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by returnofthemack

It's take to to tango. It's not just me dredging it back up. I wouldn't call this an argument but if you feel like I'm singling you out then I apologize. You most certainly are not the only one who feels that way about wish lists. The whole reason we get dozens of pages of wish lists is bc they build up one by one. Posts just like the guy who likes beastmaster (which you were ok with). No one likes to be called out for being off topic, it's petty so I apologize for that as well. I'll drop it.

[returnofthemack]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Being a niche label they could probably get away with that, and not have any negative blowback. I just wonder how much it would lower the cost?
I'd rather see them just make barebones releases packaged in an envelope for $10 for all the package haters out there. They would get the movie, on a disc, in an envelope, and that's it. If physical media ever came to that, I'd just look into streaming. Talk about a nightmare! Thankfully, I don't have to worry about that for the foreseeable future.

Maybe dropping the DVDs and custom artwork combined would drop the msrp by $5... Maybe. Probably not though as most niche blu ray labels have $29.99 msrp. Who knows what the custom artwork costs but it can't be that much. Maybe $500? $1000? Some one who might know would be the poster who had the custom Friday the 13th artwork done by Nathan Millner (the same guy who does some of screams work). The custom artwork does add value to their releases whether or not the people who dislike it believe it or not. Collectors love that kind of stuff and collectors are the ones who put money into shouts pockets. Which enables them to stay in business and put out more fancy packaged mediocre PQ AQ blus. Don't get me wrong I love shout but their stuff is very middle of the road. What they do exceptionally well is all the extra stuff.

If we want great PQ and AQ we should convince them that we would buy $40 horror blu rays bc that's most likely what it would cost to get the great results we all say we want.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by returnofthemack

Maybe dropping the DVDs and custom artwork combined would drop the msrp by $5... Maybe. Probably not though as most niche blu ray labels have $29.99 msrp. Who knows what the custom artwork costs but it can't be that much. Maybe $500? $1000? Some one who might know would be the poster who had the custom Friday the 13th artwork done by Nathan Millner (the same guy who does some of screams work). The custom artwork does add value to their releases whether or not the people who dislike it believe it or not. Collectors love that kind of stuff and collectors are the ones who put money into shouts pockets. Which enables them to stay in business and put out more fancy packaged mediocre PQ AQ blus. Don't get me wrong I love shout but their stuff is very middle of the road. What they do exceptionally well is all the extra stuff.

If we want great PQ and AQ we should convince them that we would buy $40 horror blu rays bc that's most likely what it would cost to get the great results we all say we want.

I don't know all the numbers behind the costs involved getting a SF BD into my hands. I'm sure it's considerable, and from what I can tell, it's working out pretty well for Scream Factory. Until they start offering "scaled down" releases as a purchasing option, I don't think we'll ever know. I'm a firm believer in having as many purchasing options as possible. So in that regard, I can see how some fans are put off, by things like: a dvd copy, packaging, etc.

I think it all comes down to this(as it usually does in life):

You can please all of the people some of the time
You can please some of the people all of the time
Never both!

[tommynorcal]

Originally Posted by returnofthemack

Maybe dropping the DVDs and custom artwork combined would drop the msrp by $5... Maybe. Probably not though as most niche blu ray labels have $29.99 msrp. Who knows what the custom artwork costs but it can't be that much. Maybe $500? $1000? Some one who might know would be the poster who had the custom Friday the 13th artwork done by Nathan Millner (the same guy who does some of screams work). The custom artwork does add value to their releases whether or not the people who dislike it believe it or not. Collectors love that kind of stuff and collectors are the ones who put money into shouts pockets. Which enables them to stay in business and put out more fancy packaged mediocre PQ AQ blus. Don't get me wrong I love shout but their stuff is very middle of the road. What they do exceptionally well is all the extra stuff.

If we want great PQ and AQ we should convince them that we would buy $40 horror blu rays bc that's most likely what it would cost to get the great results we all say we want.

im willing to fork the cash for better transfers all day every day

[RiFiFi1955]

MY copy of Witchboard and Death Wish just shipped from family video...fairly early I'd say, me like

[RandyK]

I've seen some people recommend Blowitoutahere as a good place to get Scream titles. They have some good prices it looks like. Just wondering about their shipping speed, packaging, or if anyone has had any problems with them.

Have to say I love Sleepaway Camp art. Definitely getting that poster.

[zbinks]

Honestly, I think the slipcovers and commissioned artwork have only a nominal effect of the prices. I wouldn't be surprised if the costs weren't factored into a general advertising budget, and not really factored into the MSRP.

• The Psycho II and Psycho III releases have $29.93 MSRPs even though they didn't have any commissioned artwork.
• The Shadow has a $29.93 MSRP even though it doesn't appear that it will come with any commissioned artwork or a slipcover (and yes, I know it's not really a Scream Factory release).
• Scream Factory hasn't dropped the MSRPs on any titles that are now beyond the initial pressing phase, even though slipcovers will no longer be produced for those titles.
• Retailers don't generally reduce their prices when a slipcover is missing.

For all intents and purposes, slipcovers have no retail value.

[HorrorBlu]

Originally Posted by RandyK

I've seen some people recommend Blowitoutahere as a good place to get Scream titles. They have some good prices it looks like. Just wondering about their shipping speed, packaging, or if anyone has had any problems with them.

I've mostly done pre-orders there, and they've all arrived on the release date except Night Of The Comet, which was only a day or two late.

For instance, I received a shipping notice for Cat People on Friday and it arrived on Tuesday. So I'd say within a week for shipping.

Everything ships as it is available, so they won't hold your entire order back if an item is back-ordered.

As for packaging, they do use those cheap white bags like Family Video and DeepDiscount / ImportCDs uses. At least they do for single items, not sure if they use boxes for multiple items (I'd imagine they would). I haven't had anything arrive damaged though.

I haven't had to contact customer service, but no problems so far. If you pre-order something far in advance, you'll receive a weekly e-mail update about your order, letting you know the release date and that it will be shipping as soon as stock arrives.

[RandyK]

Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

I've mostly done pre-orders there, and they've all arrived on the release date except Night Of The Comet, which was only a day or two late.

For instance, I received a shipping notice for Cat People on Friday and it arrived on Tuesday. So I'd say within a week for shipping.

Everything ships as it is available, so they won't hold your entire order back if an item is back-ordered.

As for packaging, they do use those cheap white bags like Family Video and DeepDiscount / ImportCDs uses. At least they do for single items, not sure if they use boxes for multiple items (I'd imagine they would). I haven't had anything arrive damaged though.

I haven't had to contact customer service, but no problems so far. If you pre-order something far in advance, you'll receive a weekly e-mail update about your order, letting you know the release date and that it will be shipping as soon as stock arrives.

Thanks. Sounds great.

[theprestige85]

Originally Posted by tommynorcal

im willing to fork the cash for better transfers all day every day

Yeah, same here. That's why Arrow Films are doing so well. Their blu's are a wee bit more expensive than the studio blu rays, but nobody gives two hoops because they are about quality first and foremost.

[returnofthemack]

Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

I've mostly done pre-orders there, and they've all arrived on the release date except Night Of The Comet, which was only a day or two late.

For instance, I received a shipping notice for Cat People on Friday and it arrived on Tuesday. So I'd say within a week for shipping.

Everything ships as it is available, so they won't hold your entire order back if an item is back-ordered.

As for packaging, they do use those cheap white bags like Family Video and DeepDiscount / ImportCDs uses. At least they do for single items, not sure if they use boxes for multiple items (I'd imagine they would). I haven't had anything arrive damaged though.

I haven't had to contact customer service, but no problems so far. If you pre-order something far in advance, you'll receive a weekly e-mail update about your order, letting you know the release date and that it will be shipping as soon as stock arrives.

Are the little white bags that your talking about the ones that are caked with glue on the inside? Those suck bad. I think with my next batch of scream preorders I'm going to go with family video. I'll try to order in groups that are 2 titles per release date. Does anyone know if you can have them shipped to a local family video and do a in store pick up?