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Disallowed · 02-13-2014, 06:20 PM

I don't see how either film is "important".

Going solely on whether or not the films have stuck in the cultural zeitgeist, which is the only possible way I can think of to judge that, it's Phantasm that's more important.

BarnDoor · 02-13-2014, 06:21 PM

Phantasm is obviously the more important and influential film of the two, I can't see any grounds for debate on that.

spawningblue · 02-13-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige85

Wow. Ok. I'm not going to piss on Phatasm for the sake of making looking Ginger Snaps look great, as I don't have to. But I imagine most of us on here know what's the more important film.

Yes Phantasm. I'm not sure if you are serious?

theprestige85 · 02-13-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Disallowed

Going solely on whether or not the films have stuck in the cultural zeitgeist, which is the only possible way I can think of to judge that, it's Phantasm that's more important.

Again, lols.

Look, i'm not going to go into this as it could get a bit rough, but I will say that I actually was shown Ginger Snaps by one of my film lecturers at university, and I wrote a piece on it and I tell you, I could have done a dissertation on it if I wanted to. I got the best grade I had ever got doing that essay. Now, if I had asked him to show us Phantasm, he'd laugh right in my face. And for a long time. That's all i'm saying.

I don't dislike Phantasm, I actually find it quite fun, but some films have their intellectual limits.

HorrorBlu · 02-13-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zbinks

I think Death Spa might still be under license to Dark Sky Films/MPI. They were going to release it years ago, but put it on hold due to the recession.

Yes, I remember that. I think they were forced to choose between releasing that and Bonnie's Kids, and unfortunately they released Bonnie's Kids instead. Not that Bonnie's Kids didn't deserve a release, but I'd have much rather had Death Spa.

After Bonnie's Kids, I'm pretty sure they closed up shop on catalog releases and focused solely on producing new films.

theprestige85 · 02-13-2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spawningblue

Yes Phantasm. I'm not sure if you are serious?

I think i'm in the wrong thread.

BarnDoor · 02-13-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige85

Again, lols.

Look, i'm not going to go into this as it could get a bit rough, but I will say that I actually was shown Ginger Snaps by one of my film lecturers at university, and I wrote a piece on it and I tell you, I could have done a dissertation on it if I wanted to. I got the best grade I had ever got doing that essay. Now, if I had asked him to show us Phantasm, he'd laugh right in my face. And for a long time. That's all i'm saying.

I don't dislike Phantasm, I actually find it quite fun, but some films have their intellectual limits.

And that matters because...?

theprestige85 · 02-13-2014, 06:34 PM

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And that matters because...?

Ok, i'm going to leave it at that as I don't want this getting ugly.

SilentNight · 02-13-2014, 06:34 PM

doesn't MGM own the fantastic movie Scarecrows? It already has an HD master I imagine and I think it has a fan base. I would love to see that from Scream Factory. One of the better low budget horror movies from the 80's

SilentNight · 02-13-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spawningblue

Yes Phantasm. I'm not sure if you are serious?

and I agree. Serious? Phantasm is an iconic movie. Up there with the likes of Halloween, Hellraiser, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street.

BarnDoor · 02-13-2014, 06:38 PM

Yes, Scarecrows is MGM and would be an ideal fit for the line.

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Ok, i'm going to leave it at that as I don't want this getting ugly.

How will it get 'ugly'? I'm intrigued.

Disallowed · 02-13-2014, 06:41 PM

I love Phantasm. Beyond its outré elements(which I guess is why it would get brushed off by film lecturers...or something?), I find it a movie that's smarter than given credit for. The sequels rang hollow to me(I still enjoy them). They felt empty and I always found the first one to be about the fear of abandonment.

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doesn't MGM own the fantastic movie Scarecrows? It already has an HD master I imagine and I think it has a fan base. I would love to see that from Scream Factory. One of the better low budget horror movies from the 80's

Scarecrows is great and I hope Scream releases it on Blu. I remember there were supposed to be features on the DVD, but what we got was bare-bones, which saddens me.

Sinep · 02-13-2014, 06:42 PM

I love Phantasm and think its a much bigger title release than the lot of Death Spa, Killer Workout...
Definitely iconic since it spawned phour sequels !

theprestige85 · 02-13-2014, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BarnDoor

How will it get 'ugly'? I'm intrigued.

I just don't want this getting out of hand, that's all. GS is a remarkable film, and if i'm honest, I feel rather silly having give reasons as to how it compares with bleeding' Phantasm.

BarnDoor · 02-13-2014, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige85

I just don't want this getting out of hand, that's all. GS is a remarkable film, and if i'm honest, I feel rather silly having give reasons as to how it compares with bleeding' Phantasm.

It's your assertion that it is a more important (and by extension, influential) film than Phantasm that we're contesting. You're allowed to like a film more than another of course (I happen to like Ginger Snaps as well), but you'll have to lecture me on the impact Ginger Snaps has had on cinema over the past decade or so since it was released, because I fail to see it.

theprestige85 · 02-13-2014, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BarnDoor

It's your assertion that it is a more important (and by extension, influential) film than Phantasm that we're contesting. You're allowed to like a film more than another of course (I happen to like Ginger Snaps as well), but you'll have to lecture me on the impact Ginger Snaps has had on cinema over the past decade or so since it was released, because I fail to see it.

A film doesn't need to have had a big influence on cinema as a whole to be deemed important. There are other reasons why this film is more interesting and has more to offer than Phantasm.

Dick Donnar's Superman is very influential, but how important is it?

demonknight · 02-13-2014, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige85

A film doesn't need to have had a big influence on cinema as a whole to be deemed important. There are other reasons why this film is more interesting and has more to offer than Phantasm.

Dick Donnar's Superman is very influential, but how important is it?

You are beginning to confuse me. What exactly do you mean by "important"? You seem to be using the terms as both different and interchangeably.

BarnDoor · 02-13-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige85

A film doesn't need to have had a big influence on cinema as a whole to be deemed important. There are other reasons why this film is more interesting and has more to offer than Phantasm.

Dick Donnar's Superman is very influential, but how important is it?

Very well. What are these reasons then? Why is it more important than Phantasm?

I have a problem when people use the word 'important' when it comes to films. Criterion, for example, would have us believe that 'Ride With The Devil' is important. You have to understand that in certain cases others won't feel the same way.

theprestige85 · 02-13-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by demonknight

You are beginning to confuse me. What exactly do you mean by "important"? You seem to be using the terms as both different and interchangeably.

I think I should just let other things get discussed here for a bit until I continue discussing GS.

demonknight · 02-13-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige85

I think I should just let other things get discussed here for a bit until I continue discussing GS.

Why?

02-13-2014, 06:20 PM	#22441
Disallowed Active Member Member since:Dec 2011 Blu-ray collection:678	I don't see how either film is "important". Going solely on whether or not the films have stuck in the cultural zeitgeist, which is the only possible way I can think of to judge that, it's Phantasm that's more important.

02-13-2014, 06:21 PM	#22442
BarnDoor Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:339 Blu-ray collection:6012 Trading Score:3	Phantasm is obviously the more important and influential film of the two, I can't see any grounds for debate on that.

02-13-2014, 06:34 PM	#22449
SilentNight Special Member Member since:Feb 2008 Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:172	doesn't MGM own the fantastic movie Scarecrows? It already has an HD master I imagine and I think it has a fan base. I would love to see that from Scream Factory. One of the better low budget horror movies from the 80's

02-13-2014, 06:42 PM	#22453
Sinep Banned Member since:Feb 2014 Blu-ray collection:106 DVD collection:102	I love Phantasm and think its a much bigger title release than the lot of Death Spa, Killer Workout... Definitely iconic since it spawned phour sequels !

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