Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread - Page 165 - Blu-ray Forum

jthefrank · 11-13-2012, 12:19 AM

I'll settle for any of:
Leviathan
Dolls
Prince of Darkness
Scarecrows

...and The Burning and/or The Fog so you're all appeased

Seymour · 11-13-2012, 09:31 AM

I think The Burning is the #1 most likely to be announced title. Other strong contenders: Dolls, Night of the Comet, Prom Night II, Scarecrows. If we assume that everything's on the table for Shout, then these become possibilites: The Fog, The Howling, Pumpkinhead, Lifeforce. I really don't see Prince of Darkness being announced, since it was mentioned that they announced all of their Universal titles.

My personal most wanted announcements: Lifeforce, New Year's Evil. I'd also say The Howling, but I figure it's guaranteed from someone (doesn't matter if it's Shout or MGM).

dsman71 · 11-13-2012, 01:25 PM

Id say the Fog is also a top contender since Jamie Lee Curtis is there. Id be open to a definitive edition of Army of Darkness but that is owned by Universal or Anchor Bay ...maybe more MGM Midnight movies will be announced ?

Dustin Putman · 11-13-2012, 01:29 PM

I would love to hear THE FOG announced, as well as THE BURNING and PRINCE OF DARKNESS. I think my very top pick, though, would be CURTAINS. I would love love love to see that get a proper release, in high-def, in its correct aspect ratio, with legitimate special features. Such an underrated '80s slasher film.

Mr.Dig · 11-13-2012, 01:59 PM

I want "Lifeforce" and "Pumpkinhead" more than anything else!

But would also like to see "Squirm","Frogs" and "Invaders From Mars(1986)".
I already have "The Howling" and "The Fog" on blu-ray.

zbinks · 11-13-2012, 02:03 PM

I would be extremely surprised if The Fog wasn't announced with as Fog-centric as that convention appears to be. That's really the only film at this point that I'd really be willing to bet on as a likelihood, though I do think these announcements wil be better-known in nature than what we've been getting week to week thus far.

donidarko · 11-13-2012, 02:33 PM

With all due respect and I may be wrong here but I seriously doubt SF will be able to acquire the rights to THE FOG, THE BURNING, THE HOWLING, PUMPKINHEAD, etc. I believe these will eventually be released thru Fox's distribution deal with MGM. All these titles had extensive special features produced for the DVD releases. It seems SF is leasing lesser known horror gems that have never seen a decent DVD release and cult films that never had any special edition releases. I welcome them to BluRay.

I respect and love what SF is doing for little known classics like TOWN THAT DREADED SUNDOWN, THE ISLAND, TERROR VISION, THE EVICTORS, TERROR TRAIN and the HALLOWEEN sequels. Beautiful work I have to say.

If Universal would take their feet off of PRINCE OF DARKNESS, THE CAR, THE SENTINEL and other genre product, I would love to see SF release these.

MGM recently released KILLER KLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE and JEEPERS CREEPERS this year for halloween. Depending on how well these sell will probably determine if SF has a shot at snagging the big titles.

dsman71 · 11-13-2012, 02:48 PM

Disagree, Scream needs some headliner titles that will sell and make money so I expect a few major titles announced. Invaders from Mars would be AWESOME
Fox does not know what to do for genre titles other than re-release the same old thing and make MOD titles. Leviathan would be cool, Lifeforce would force me to rent again , I havent seen that in over 10 years. I wish theyd go into the 60s and release a few choice titles from that era too.

zbinks · 11-13-2012, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donidarko

I respect and love what SF is doing for little known classics like TOWN THAT DREADED SUNDOWN, THE ISLAND, TERROR VISION, THE EVICTORS, TERROR TRAIN and the HALLOWEEN sequels. Beautiful work I have to say.

The Halloween sequels are "little known?

NoirFan · 11-13-2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbinks

The Halloween sequels are "little known?

And They Live? Even Funhouse and Terror Train have solid-size followings. It makes clear economic sense for Shout to mix in big headliner titles with the more obscure stuff, to create awareness of their brand among casual fans who have never heard of, say, The Vagrant, and to provide dependable sales that will make up for the assumedly weaker performances of movies that are direct-to-video and/or star Barbi Benton.

jthefrank · 11-13-2012, 04:26 PM

IMDB ratings was used as a potential metric of popularity in the Blue Underground thread:

Halloween II - 30,010
Halloween III - 18,038
The Funhouse - 5,483
Terror Train - 3,840
They Live - 37,976
The Island - 1,742
Death Valley - 448
The Nest - 570
Deadly Blessing - 1,581
Phantasm II - 5,955
Prison - 1,606
Terrorvision - 1,775
The Video Dead - 1,057
From Beyond - 7,807
The Town That Dreaded Sundown - 1,466
The Evictors - 289
The Incredible Melting Man - 2,033
The Vampire Lovers - 2,233
XRay - 319
Schizoid - 167
Godsend - 243
Scanners II - 1,306
Scanners III - 850
The Vagrant - 367
The Horror Show - 1,521

The Howling - 14,063
The Howling II - 3,215
The Burning - 5,568
Lifeforce - 8,880
Prince of Darkness - 14,928
The Fog - 28,054
Dolls - 3,282
Scarecrows - 1,905
Leviathan - 7,367
Prom Night - 6,465
Prom Night 2 - 1,879
Without Warning - 1,055
Pumpkinhead - 8,135
Fright Night 2 - 4,914
Invaders From Mars - 2,988
Motel Hell - 3,977
Frogs - 2,714
Curtains - 809
Squirm - 2,504
Slugs - 1,546
Chopping Mall - 3,211
Hellraiser 2 - 17,972
Trick or Treat - 2,672
Body Double - 12,603
The Fury - 5,804
Sisters - 6,317
The Phantom of Paradise - 7,085
In The Mouth of Madness - 25,425
Scanner Cop - 626
Scanner Cop 2 - 342

Army of Darkness - 79,319
Carrie - 64,691
Christine - 29,304

redrunner97 · 11-13-2012, 04:30 PM

No one's mentioning "Motel Hell"!

donidarko · 11-13-2012, 05:29 PM

Don't get me wrong, I wish SF could become the Horror /Thriller headliner since the studios don't know how to market their product.

I hope all the newly released titles sell very well so the studios may come to their senses...

Personally I hope Scream does get the big MGM horror movies everyone is waiting for... as well as WITHOUT WARNING, MOTEL HELL, MIRACLE MILE, VAMPIRE'S KISS, SQUIRM, LiTTLE GIRL WHO LIVES DOWN THE LANE, AUDREY ROSE, THE FOOD OF THE GODS, NIGHT OF THE COMET, EMPIRE OF THE ANTS, THE HOUSE BY THE LAKE, DERANGED, etc.

I would be a very Very happy camper.

...I LOVE SF, didn't mean to dash anyones hope or offend

Slasherob · 11-13-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jthefrank

IMDB ratings was used as a potential metric of popularity in the Blue Underground thread:

Halloween II - 30,010
Halloween III - 18,038
The Funhouse - 5,483
Terror Train - 3,840
They Live - 37,976
The Island - 1,742
Death Valley - 448
The Nest - 570
Deadly Blessing - 1,581
Phantasm II - 5,955
Prison - 1,606
Terrorvision - 1,775
The Video Dead - 1,057
From Beyond - 7,807
The Town That Dreaded Sundown - 1,466
The Evictors - 289
The Incredible Melting Man - 2,033
The Vampire Lovers - 2,233
XRay - 319
Schizoid - 167
Godsend - 243
Scanners II - 1,306
Scanners III - 850
The Vagrant - 367
The Horror Show - 1,521

The Howling - 14,063
The Howling II - 3,215
The Burning - 5,568
Lifeforce - 8,880
Prince of Darkness - 14,928
The Fog - 28,054
Dolls - 3,282
Scarecrows - 1,905
Leviathan - 7,367
Prom Night - 6,465
Prom Night 2 - 1,879
Without Warning - 1,055
Pumpkinhead - 8,135
Fright Night 2 - 4,914
Invaders From Mars - 2,988
Motel Hell - 3,977
Frogs - 2,714
Curtains - 809
Squirm - 2,504
Slugs - 1,546
Chopping Mall - 3,211
Hellraiser 2 - 17,972
Trick or Treat - 2,672
Body Double - 12,603
The Fury - 5,804
Sisters - 6,317
The Phantom of Paradise - 7,085
In The Mouth of Madness - 25,425
Scanner Cop - 626
Scanner Cop 2 - 342

Army of Darkness - 79,319
Carrie - 64,691
Christine - 29,304

This day in age this is a quite brilliant and reliable metric to judge catalog film popularity. Wish i would have thought of that.

zbinks · 11-13-2012, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jthefrank

IMDB ratings was used as a potential metric of popularity in the Blue Underground thread:

Halloween II - 30,010
Halloween III - 18,038
The Funhouse - 5,483
Terror Train - 3,840
They Live - 37,976
The Island - 1,742
Death Valley - 448
The Nest - 570
Deadly Blessing - 1,581
Phantasm II - 5,955
Prison - 1,606
Terrorvision - 1,775
The Video Dead - 1,057
From Beyond - 7,807
The Town That Dreaded Sundown - 1,466
The Evictors - 289
The Incredible Melting Man - 2,033
The Vampire Lovers - 2,233
XRay - 319
Schizoid - 167
Godsend - 243
Scanners II - 1,306
Scanners III - 850
The Vagrant - 367
The Horror Show - 1,521

The Howling - 14,063
The Howling II - 3,215
The Burning - 5,568
Lifeforce - 8,880
Prince of Darkness - 14,928
The Fog - 28,054
Dolls - 3,282
Scarecrows - 1,905
Leviathan - 7,367
Prom Night - 6,465
Prom Night 2 - 1,879
Without Warning - 1,055
Pumpkinhead - 8,135
Fright Night 2 - 4,914
Invaders From Mars - 2,988
Motel Hell - 3,977
Frogs - 2,714
Curtains - 809
Squirm - 2,504
Slugs - 1,546
Chopping Mall - 3,211
Hellraiser 2 - 17,972
Trick or Treat - 2,672
Body Double - 12,603
The Fury - 5,804
Sisters - 6,317
The Phantom of Paradise - 7,085
In The Mouth of Madness - 25,425
Scanner Cop - 626
Scanner Cop 2 - 342

Army of Darkness - 79,319
Carrie - 64,691
Christine - 29,304

That was me, and I will warn that those numbers can be skewed by a number of factors.

Demographics is probably the biggest factor. Gone with the Wind was rated by 120,000 users vs. The Dark Knight being rated by over 800,000, even though Gone with the Wind is probably the most popular film ever. (EDIT: Bear in mind that Dark Knight probably outsells Gone with the Wind by a fairly wide margin on DVD and Blu-Ray.) Simply put, most of the people that saw Gone with the Wind theatrically are either dead or have never touched a computer in their life. The older the average fanbase is, the lower the IMDB user number will be. Most of the Scream Factory films fall into roughly the same general era so comparisons should be more accurate, but I would caution against using this to compare relatively recent films (especially late 90's - present) with films that were released a relatively long time ago.

Ex: Jeepers Creepers (51,931) compared to Halloween II (30,010). Halloween II probably has a larger cross section of fans that don't use IMDB.

Recent availability is also huge. It probably isn't fair to compare popularity for a VHS only title to a title that had a DVD release. Scarecrows probably isn't more popular than The Town that Dreaded Sundown, but TTtDS has been more or less unavailable since the 1990's Goodtimes VHS went OOP, while Scarecrows received a DVD release in 2007 that only recently went OOP. Tiles that have been OOP for an especially long time (X-Ray, Death Valley, etc.) can be especially hard to judge using this method as there is probably a large swath of people that simply never had the opportunity to see these movies.

Monroville · 11-13-2012, 06:59 PM

I'm really surprised that Scream isn't releasing films that already have HD masters made. SQUIRM, MOTEL HELL, BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW, GHOULIES, DERANGED, THEATER OF BLOOD, REMO WILLIAMS, the PHIBES movies, LIFEFORCE and a few others have been played on MGM-HD and MGM-HD UK. It seems the only one they are putting out that has been played is VAMPIRE LOVERS.

jthefrank · 11-13-2012, 07:58 PM

Jeez, I just checked for non-Region B DVDs of Rawhead Rex, and they run for $100 or so, used

zbinks · 11-13-2012, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monroville

I'm really surprised that Scream isn't releasing films that already have HD masters made. SQUIRM, MOTEL HELL, BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW, GHOULIES, DERANGED, THEATER OF BLOOD, REMO WILLIAMS, the PHIBES movies, LIFEFORCE and a few others have been played on MGM-HD and MGM-HD UK. It seems the only one they are putting out that has been played is VAMPIRE LOVERS.

Town that Dreaded Sundown and The Video Dead spring to mind as films that have preexisting HD masters. Town just aired on AMC in HD a couple of months ago and I think I read that The Video Dead may be available on Netflix for HD streaming. I sort of expect that most, if not all, of the announced films have pre-existing HD masters, whether they've aired or not.

Theater of Blood is near the top of my Blu-Ray upgrade list since, the DVD is non-anamorphic.

PowellPressburger · 11-13-2012, 08:21 PM

Does anyone ever mention Burnt Offerings? I want that on BLU

Member-222782 · 11-13-2012, 08:39 PM

Am I the only one who is curious about whether or not there will be more announcements after Friday? Sure, they have announced 18 titles, which seems like a lot (it isn't), but how many of those will end up as double or triple features? If there's nothing else coming after Friday, I really hope they're saving the best for last.

11-13-2012, 04:26 PM	#3291
jthefrank Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Montana 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1478 Trading Score:3	IMDB ratings was used as a potential metric of popularity in the Blue Underground thread: Halloween II - 30,010 Halloween III - 18,038 The Funhouse - 5,483 Terror Train - 3,840 They Live - 37,976 The Island - 1,742 Death Valley - 448 The Nest - 570 Deadly Blessing - 1,581 Phantasm II - 5,955 Prison - 1,606 Terrorvision - 1,775 The Video Dead - 1,057 From Beyond - 7,807 The Town That Dreaded Sundown - 1,466 The Evictors - 289 The Incredible Melting Man - 2,033 The Vampire Lovers - 2,233 XRay - 319 Schizoid - 167 Godsend - 243 Scanners II - 1,306 Scanners III - 850 The Vagrant - 367 The Horror Show - 1,521 The Howling - 14,063 The Howling II - 3,215 The Burning - 5,568 Lifeforce - 8,880 Prince of Darkness - 14,928 The Fog - 28,054 Dolls - 3,282 Scarecrows - 1,905 Leviathan - 7,367 Prom Night - 6,465 Prom Night 2 - 1,879 Without Warning - 1,055 Pumpkinhead - 8,135 Fright Night 2 - 4,914 Invaders From Mars - 2,988 Motel Hell - 3,977 Frogs - 2,714 Curtains - 809 Squirm - 2,504 Slugs - 1,546 Chopping Mall - 3,211 Hellraiser 2 - 17,972 Trick or Treat - 2,672 Body Double - 12,603 The Fury - 5,804 Sisters - 6,317 The Phantom of Paradise - 7,085 In The Mouth of Madness - 25,425 Scanner Cop - 626 Scanner Cop 2 - 342 Army of Darkness - 79,319 Carrie - 64,691 Christine - 29,304 Last edited by jthefrank; 11-13-2012 at 04:46 PM.

11-13-2012, 12:19 AM	#3281
jthefrank Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Montana 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1478 Trading Score:3	I'll settle for any of: Leviathan Dolls Prince of Darkness Scarecrows ...and The Burning and/or The Fog so you're all appeased

11-13-2012, 09:31 AM	#3282
Seymour Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Blu-ray collection:3231 DVD collection:360	I think The Burning is the #1 most likely to be announced title. Other strong contenders: Dolls, Night of the Comet, Prom Night II, Scarecrows. If we assume that everything's on the table for Shout, then these become possibilites: The Fog, The Howling, Pumpkinhead, Lifeforce. I really don't see Prince of Darkness being announced, since it was mentioned that they announced all of their Universal titles. My personal most wanted announcements: Lifeforce, New Year's Evil. I'd also say The Howling, but I figure it's guaranteed from someone (doesn't matter if it's Shout or MGM).

11-13-2012, 01:25 PM	#3283
dsman71 Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:569 Blu-ray collection:2844 DVD collection:665	Id say the Fog is also a top contender since Jamie Lee Curtis is there. Id be open to a definitive edition of Army of Darkness but that is owned by Universal or Anchor Bay ...maybe more MGM Midnight movies will be announced ?

11-13-2012, 01:29 PM	#3284
Dustin Putman Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2010 Location:VA 4K collection:2028 Blu-ray collection:13090 DVD collection:3	I would love to hear THE FOG announced, as well as THE BURNING and PRINCE OF DARKNESS. I think my very top pick, though, would be CURTAINS. I would love love love to see that get a proper release, in high-def, in its correct aspect ratio, with legitimate special features. Such an underrated '80s slasher film.

11-13-2012, 01:59 PM	#3285
Mr.Dig Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Location:Norway 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:902 Trading Score:1	I want "Lifeforce" and "Pumpkinhead" more than anything else! But would also like to see "Squirm","Frogs" and "Invaders From Mars(1986)". I already have "The Howling" and "The Fog" on blu-ray.

11-13-2012, 02:03 PM	#3286
zbinks Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Illinois 4K collection:46 Blu-ray collection:3037 DVD collection:442 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:1	I would be extremely surprised if The Fog wasn't announced with as Fog-centric as that convention appears to be. That's really the only film at this point that I'd really be willing to bet on as a likelihood, though I do think these announcements wil be better-known in nature than what we've been getting week to week thus far.

11-13-2012, 02:33 PM	#3287
donidarko Special Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:Fleetwood, NY 4K collection:131 Blu-ray collection:1034 DVD collection:128 Digital collection:95 Prime collection:76	With all due respect and I may be wrong here but I seriously doubt SF will be able to acquire the rights to THE FOG, THE BURNING, THE HOWLING, PUMPKINHEAD, etc. I believe these will eventually be released thru Fox's distribution deal with MGM. All these titles had extensive special features produced for the DVD releases. It seems SF is leasing lesser known horror gems that have never seen a decent DVD release and cult films that never had any special edition releases. I welcome them to BluRay. I respect and love what SF is doing for little known classics like TOWN THAT DREADED SUNDOWN, THE ISLAND, TERROR VISION, THE EVICTORS, TERROR TRAIN and the HALLOWEEN sequels. Beautiful work I have to say. If Universal would take their feet off of PRINCE OF DARKNESS, THE CAR, THE SENTINEL and other genre product, I would love to see SF release these. MGM recently released KILLER KLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE and JEEPERS CREEPERS this year for halloween. Depending on how well these sell will probably determine if SF has a shot at snagging the big titles.

11-13-2012, 02:48 PM	#3288
dsman71 Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:569 Blu-ray collection:2844 DVD collection:665	Disagree, Scream needs some headliner titles that will sell and make money so I expect a few major titles announced. Invaders from Mars would be AWESOME Fox does not know what to do for genre titles other than re-release the same old thing and make MOD titles. Leviathan would be cool, Lifeforce would force me to rent again , I havent seen that in over 10 years. I wish theyd go into the 60s and release a few choice titles from that era too.

11-13-2012, 04:30 PM	#3292
redrunner97 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Trading Score:24	No one's mentioning "Motel Hell"!

11-13-2012, 05:29 PM	#3293
donidarko Special Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:Fleetwood, NY 4K collection:131 Blu-ray collection:1034 DVD collection:128 Digital collection:95 Prime collection:76	Don't get me wrong, I wish SF could become the Horror /Thriller headliner since the studios don't know how to market their product. I hope all the newly released titles sell very well so the studios may come to their senses... Personally I hope Scream does get the big MGM horror movies everyone is waiting for... as well as WITHOUT WARNING, MOTEL HELL, MIRACLE MILE, VAMPIRE'S KISS, SQUIRM, LiTTLE GIRL WHO LIVES DOWN THE LANE, AUDREY ROSE, THE FOOD OF THE GODS, NIGHT OF THE COMET, EMPIRE OF THE ANTS, THE HOUSE BY THE LAKE, DERANGED, etc. I would be a very Very happy camper. ...I LOVE SF, didn't mean to dash anyones hope or offend

11-13-2012, 06:59 PM	#3296
Monroville Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Louisville, KY Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:30	I'm really surprised that Scream isn't releasing films that already have HD masters made. SQUIRM, MOTEL HELL, BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW, GHOULIES, DERANGED, THEATER OF BLOOD, REMO WILLIAMS, the PHIBES movies, LIFEFORCE and a few others have been played on MGM-HD and MGM-HD UK. It seems the only one they are putting out that has been played is VAMPIRE LOVERS.

11-13-2012, 07:58 PM	#3297
jthefrank Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Montana 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1478 Trading Score:3	Jeez, I just checked for non-Region B DVDs of Rawhead Rex, and they run for $100 or so, used

11-13-2012, 08:21 PM	#3299
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:996 Blu-ray collection:3682 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:297	Does anyone ever mention Burnt Offerings? I want that on BLU

11-13-2012, 08:39 PM	#3300
Member-222782 Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:645 Blu-ray collection:4556 DVD collection:474 Trading Score:140	Am I the only one who is curious about whether or not there will be more announcements after Friday? Sure, they have announced 18 titles, which seems like a lot (it isn't), but how many of those will end up as double or triple features? If there's nothing else coming after Friday, I really hope they're saving the best for last.

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