Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[redrunner97]

Yes!! Definitely excited for The Brain that Wouldn't Die and Zombie High!!! Hopefully BTWD is the extended version!

As far as the Dungeonmaster / Eliminators double feature. I'm excited but they aren't excatly a matching pair, and I really wish Contamination .7 would have gotten the upgrade since it doesn't look like it will be on the Troll disc.

But I'm really excited for Elminators too, Dungeonmaster is one of the few Shout titles I own that I haven't actually seen yet.

[rdodolak]

And the covers to go along with the announcement.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

There are many reasons not to go region free. Being stuck to that machine (I have several players throughout the house), can't bring discs over to friends house, can't lend discs to friends (I co-host a horror podcast and most of the movies we cover I lend him, so this is a huge one for me), players are much more expensive, if region free player dies need to replace it with another region free player which again are more expensive and you can't just walk into a Best Buy and get a new one the next day. Probably be harder to find ten years from now as well. Just look at the prices for a good laserdisc or VHS player!

If it is anything like the DVD age, most of the great releases will get a similar re-release over here eventually anyway. There are only a handful of DVD releases (Creepshow is the big one!) that didn't end up getting a re-release over here with the better transfer or the extra bonus features. Once companies licenses expire, I would't be surprised to see a lot of the UK only Arrow releases eventually make it over here.

I don't even use a player, just an ASUS Blu-ray disc burner and software to remove region coding. I don't understand why more people can buy a higher end Region Free Blu-ray player. Why wait for random releases to very slowly make it over to the USA when they can already be bought and watched? Even the ones from other countries which are 100% Region Free with content which'll play on everything seems to be a stigma for people not wanting to import. More of the mantra of 'If it's not released in the USA, it doesn't exist at all. EVEN if the UK released it for a more than reasonable price and is Region Free, I won't buy it.'
Being locked specifically to your country for Blu-rays is something I'll never understand and will only be limiting to your collections. Of course I'm biased for being Multi-Region since I have been for over 15 years.

EXAMPLE: http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison....php?fid=23543
LIFEFORCE Arrow UK release is a sight better compared to the Scream Factory one due to the fact (copy and paste time): The UK release for the 1080p transfer on both versions, lossless audio and the isolated music & effects track on both cuts of the film and the inclusion of an additional commentary and extensive making of documentary.
BUT: Note however that the US release includes a vintage making of, a tv spot and a stills gallery not included on the UK release.
So I chose to own the Arrow UK release over the Scream! Factory one due to these facts, especially the far superior compression on ARROWs release. Sure, I don't mind owning different releases of a title but my attention veered more towards the release I currently now own.
Other horror titles such as Return of the Living Dead and Re-Animator I have absolutely no problem with owning multiple releases of from different countries. Some titles I prefer narrowing it down to a singular release or if I do want to have differing releases, I always gravitate towards the one which is lower in price. The waiting game.

EDIT: People don't have to agree with my reasoning for the titles I prefer buying or the releases. I'm buying for my collection and doesn't matter for anyone elses.

[Abby is Q]

I wish Dungeonmaster was getting a solo release or being paired with something better. Eliminators is boring and doesn't have the bad movie charm of Dungeonmaster.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

Hopefully BTWD is the extended version!

Looks like it will be?? The Synapse DVD is 85 mins I believe. Is that the runtime of the Timeless disc?

Originally Posted by Scream Factory FB

The version we have will be the one that was previously on the 4-film Timeless release on DVD--which according to MGM (where we licensed it from) is the longest version of the film.

[spawningblue]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

I don't even use a player, just an ASUS Blu-ray disc burner and software to remove region coding. I don't understand why more people can buy a higher end Region Free Blu-ray player. Why wait for random releases to very slowly make it over to the USA when they can already be bought and watched? Even the ones from other countries which are 100% Region Free with content which'll play on everything seems to be a stigma for people not wanting to import. More of the mantra of 'If it's not released in the USA, it doesn't exist at all. EVEN if the UK released it for a more than reasonable price and is Region Free, I won't buy it.'
Being locked specifically to your country for Blu-rays is something I'll never understand and will only be limiting to your collections. Of course I'm biased for being Multi-Region since I have been for over 15 years.

EXAMPLE: http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison....php?fid=23543
LIFEFORCE Arrow UK release is a sight better compared to the Scream Factory one due to the fact (copy and paste time): The UK release for the 1080p transfer on both versions, lossless audio and the isolated music & effects track on both cuts of the film and the inclusion of an additional commentary and extensive making of documentary.
BUT: Note however that the US release includes a vintage making of, a tv spot and a stills gallery not included on the UK release.
So I chose to own the Arrow UK release over the Scream! Factory one due to these facts, especially the far superior compression on ARROWs release. Sure, I don't mind owning different releases of a title but my attention veered more towards the release I currently now own.
Other horror titles such as Return of the Living Dead and Re-Animator I have absolutely no problem with owning multiple releases of from different countries. Some titles I prefer narrowing it down to a singular release or if I do want to have differing releases, I always gravitate towards the one which is lower in price. The waiting game.

EDIT: People don't have to agree with my reasoning for the titles I prefer buying or the releases. I'm buying for my collection and doesn't matter for anyone elses.

I have imported a few region free releases, I have no problem against that as I don't need a special player to play them. Although I prefer English only versions, not really interested in films where the menus, covers, etc. are in a different language.

It sounds like a lot of trouble to be re-burning a region free version of all of your discs, not to mention costly. BD-Rs aren't that cheap , are they? Not interested in doing that.

Yes, I do have to wait, but I have a wish list of a 1000+ titles. I have lots to waste my money on without going region free.

Lifeforce isn't the best example, as Arrow's versions was released months after Screams. So either way, I'd still be waiting for the better version.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

I have imported a few region free releases, I have no problem against that as I don't need a special player to play them. Although I prefer English only versions, not really interested in films where the menus, covers, etc. are in a different language.

It sounds like a lot of trouble to be re-burning a region free version of all of your discs, not to mention costly. BD-Rs aren't that cheap , are they? Not interested in doing that.

Yes, I do have to wait, but I have a wish list of a 1000+ titles. I have lots to waste my money on without going region free.

Lifeforce isn't the best example, as Arrow's versions was released months after Screams. So either way, I'd still be waiting for the better version.

I don't have to reburn anything. I use software which removes the region coding since AnyDVD HD sees it's Region B and recodes it to Region Free. Still the same stamped discs to watch. I still wouldn't want to own Screams release anyway, even for a few extras.
Still burn some only if I'm wanting to make custom BD-Rs of trailers or adding a mono track/random dub to a custom MKV. Even adding another audio track such as many exclusive LD commentaries which haven't been on DVD or Blu-ray is something else I also do.

[tylerdurden10]

Originally Posted by Abby is Q

I wish Dungeonmaster was getting a solo release or being paired with something better. Eliminators is boring and doesn't have the bad movie charm of Dungeonmaster.

I could say the same for Dungeonmaster!

Eliminators has been high on my wishlist for YEARS, so happy that it's finally getting a blu release.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

BD-Rs aren't that cheap , are they? Not interested in doing that.

They're pretty cheap, at least for single-layer discs. This 25-pack has been as low as $17, and the one I bought a few months ago was $21. Currently $24, which is still less than $1 a disc.

Edit: This 50-pack is $40.63, and has been as low as $32!

[neoz]

I wonder if Scream could get the rights to release Waxwork? I know that is held by Lionsgate I believe and I don't see them releasing it anytime soon, if at all.

[BarnDoor]

So we're just waiting on 3 films from the All-Night Horror Marathon DVD sets to be upgraded now. I really hope The Vagrant gets the Blu-ray treatment, along with The Visitors from The Town That Dreaded Sundown release.

[Catastrophe]

Originally Posted by neoz

I wonder if Scream could get the rights to release Waxwork? I know that is held by Lionsgate I believe and I don't see them releasing it anytime soon, if at all.

You answered your own question.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by Catastrophe

You answered your own question.

Let me rephrase that. I wonder if Scream could get the rights to release it from Lionsgate?

[demonknight]

Rather than Lionsgate, I'm going to make a different kind of request. Any chance SF could get Universal to give up some lower tier older horror. Perhaps a double feature of the two Abbott and Costello movies with Boris Karloff (... Meet the Killer Boris Karloff & ... Meet Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

[jaws3dfan]

Now that the Tony Anthony 80's classic Comin' at Ya! is getting a 3D BluRay release Scream/Shout Factory should release Treasure of the Four Crowns on 3D BluRay so we can all forget about the abomination of a DVD they released.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

They're pretty cheap, at least for single-layer discs. This 25-pack has been as low as $17, and the one I bought a few months ago was $21. Currently $24, which is still less than $1 a disc.

Edit: This 50-pack is $40.63, and has been as low as $32!

I purchase Inkjet printable 25gb BD-R's in a 50 pack for $24. Inkjet Printable 50gb BD-R's cost me $23 for 10 discs. (ebay) They come in handy for film preservation's of for doing exactly what Ray_Rogers has described and just throwing the Region Free disc in the same case.

With that said, I'm looking at getting a cheap region free player for viewing SD Pal extras since that requires it's own time and effort if you want to keep menu structure (which I do).

In my opinion it's silly we even need to go through these lengths. The people importing discs likely have the knowledge and ability to either a) burn a region free disc or b) Already own a region free player. The people that don't import (so 99% of the movie buying public) aren't even aware that different versions of films exist outside of America anyways. Region locking is an antiquated method of preventing film fans from obtaining their movies from other parts of the world that barely works these days.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Originally Posted by jaws3dfan

Now that the Tony Anthony 80's classic Comin' at Ya! is getting a 3D BluRay release Scream/Shout Factory should release Treasure of the Four Crowns on 3D BluRay so we can all forget about the abomination of a DVD they released.

I recently picked up that 4 Movie Marathon DVD from Amoeba Music, specifically for Treasure of the Four Crowns. Yeah, poor picture quality but that commentary track by that super fan guy is an entertaining listen.

[Blu MacReady]

Originally Posted by tylerdurden10

I could say the same for Dungeonmaster!

Eliminators has been high on my wishlist for YEARS, so happy that it's finally getting a blu release.

Yeah I bought the 4 film dvd , which included Arena thinking BD would never happen

Day one

[Abby is Q]

Originally Posted by tylerdurden10

I could say the same for Dungeonmaster!

Eliminators has been high on my wishlist for YEARS, so happy that it's finally getting a blu release.

Maybe it's dependent on the order you see the movies. I saw Dungeonmaster first and my friends and I sought out Eliminators because of it. The trailer for Eliminators is awesome and you expect something hilarious when you see the robot-man-tank-thing. But the entire movie was actually fairly competent and serious enough that it came off mediocre to me. I haven't seen it in years, but I remember long periods of dialogue where I wasn't laughing.

Compared to Dungeonmaster that goes from segment to segment quickly and has drastic tonal shifts throughout because of the multiple directors. It is not only bad, but a complete disjointed mess. It's fascinating throughout the movie and only drags when they get to the overlong slasher segment. Plus, Richard Moll's hammy performance just makes the movie that much more enjoyable.

I guess what I'm saying is Eliminators is a competently made movie that is really just boring and below par, and its reputation as a "good, bad movie" is more from its awesome cover art than the actual movie. But maybe I'm way off base. It's been like 7 years since I've seen it and I was nearly asleep most of the time.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

They're pretty cheap, at least for single-layer discs. This 25-pack has been as low as $17, and the one I bought a few months ago was $21. Currently $24, which is still less than $1 a disc.

Edit: This 50-pack is $40.63, and has been as low as $32!

I tend to prefer buying Optical Quantum's BD25 4X~6X speed Logo top so I can write with my fancy writing along with an Ultra Fine sharpie. Usually costs me around $25 for a spindle of 50. Haven't touched BD50s yet cause they're still a bit too pricey for me.

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

I purchase Inkjet printable 25gb BD-R's in a 50 pack for $24. Inkjet Printable 50gb BD-R's cost me $23 for 10 discs. (ebay) They come in handy for film preservation's of for doing exactly what Ray_Rogers has described and just throwing the Region Free disc in the same case.

With that said, I'm looking at getting a cheap region free player for viewing SD Pal extras since that requires it's own time and effort if you want to keep menu structure (which I do).

In my opinion it's silly we even need to go through these lengths. The people importing discs likely have the knowledge and ability to either a) burn a region free disc or b) Already own a region free player. The people that don't import (so 99% of the movie buying public) aren't even aware that different versions of films exist outside of America anyways. Region locking is an antiquated method of preventing film fans from obtaining their movies from other parts of the world that barely works these days.

Agree with Region locking. I understand it's usually used for newer releases of films still in cinemas in one country but it's already on Blu-ray in another. Even then I'd rather have lots of options to choose from when I want to import a title so I can easily narrow down which one(s) I'm going to buy.
All Region B discs I watch are still Region B when I put them in the tray of the ASUS Blu-ray disc burner I have installed on my self-built computer tower. AnyDVD HD is the software I use to enable watching any Blu-ray I own, regardless of the country I bought/got gifted/etc. it from. Just removed that extra coding on the disc regarding Regional Coding and just strips it away.
I'm still able to find some decent 720p~1080p files of HDTV broadcasts of movies not on Blu-ray in any part of the World. Some still on VHS, Laserdisc, and maybe a very early DVD release. Same as I have for TRUE LIES and a few others.