Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[BarnDoor]

From the MGM catalogue, the only potential CE's left for Scream (within reason) are Hannibal and The Amityville Horror (2006). There are more left in the Universal catalogue (again, all double dips) but it would depend entirely on the willingness of Universal to licence out certain titles to Scream. If they aren't willing to give up the Chucky films and Jaws sequels say, there isn't much left:

Duel (could do both versions, but I sincerely doubt Spielberg would participate)
Dracula (have said they would only do if they could present the original colour timing; that, a new transfer for both versions, and extras would make a worthwhile release)

An American Werewolf in London (the last release featured a new scan and many extras, and was cheap; is there much point?)
Dune (a decent candidate since they could do both versions, new transfers, and though Lynch I doubt Criterion are interested)

Tremors (with the new film and series, might be that Universal want to hold onto it, but definitely ripe for improvement)
Cape Fear (can't see it, they wouldn't get most of those involved, let's be honest)
12 Monkeys (Arrow have it for the UK, and it's likely Criterion will want it for the US, unless Arrow finally have a Universal deal there)
Waterworld (Plenty of possibilities here; I'd love them to tackle it if Arrow don't)
The Frighteners (Very good transfer, exhaustive extras...is there much point?)
End of Days (Dated transfer, few extras... no Arnie, but I'd be happy to see it)

Pitch Black (Could they improve much on the existing release?)
Red Dragon (A possibility if they decide to do Hannibal, but again, very good transfer and decent extras on the current release)
Shaun of the Dead (Might improve on the transfer but the extras?)
Skeleton Key (The current release is lacking in all departments so it's viable)
Dead Silence (Jeff recently hinted that he regretted not picking this up a few years ago, so maybe they might revisit it?)


I might have left one or two out but the point is that they weren't exactly blessed with options, and as BrianJoynt pointed out the line surely wouldn't have lasted past 2018 in its current form without a major new deal.

[NeMo_ET]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Again though, there are potentially massive options open to them now which weren't back then. If they had this deal over 18 months ago say, would they have bothered with the likes of The Strangers, Cyborg, Teen Wolf? Probably not. It strikes me as a case of needs must to carry the line until they could make a deal with another studio.

I don't disagree that they're more likely to place their focus on this for the time being, but to really understand you'd have to know what their numbers look like. What has sold the best, what did it cost them to make, licencing costs, etc. Basically, all I was saying is that obviously they want to keep their fan base happy but in the end they're going to do whatever is the most economical for them at the time.

[Michael24]

Originally Posted by BrianJoynt

So...Bloody Disgusting is covering a story on something like "Chiodo Brother Reveal Unused Practical Effects for Critters 2." Wonder why the Chiodo Brothers would be digging through unused practical effects for a 20-year old movie...

Hopefully the special features for that Scream Factory Critters Box Set!

I saw that footage posted a week ago on the new Fangoria Facebook. Fangoria (which has new owners and is in the process of being revived as a physical magazine) said they asked the Chiodo Brothers if they had any video of Critters II effects lying around, and they dug up and sent them a bunch. So it seems unrelated to Scream.

https://www.facebook.com/Fangoria/vi...0317240348104/

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

From the MGM catalogue, the only potential CE's left for Scream (within reason) are Hannibal and The Amityville Horror (2006). There are more left in the Universal catalogue (again, all double dips) but it would depend entirely on the willingness of Universal to licence out certain titles to Scream. If they aren't willing to give up the Chucky films and Jaws sequels say, there isn't much left:

Duel (could do both versions, but I sincerely doubt Spielberg would participate)
Dracula (have said they would only do if they could present the original colour timing; that, a new transfer for both versions, and extras would make a worthwhile release)

An American Werewolf in London (the last release featured a new scan and many extras, and was cheap; is there much point?)
Dune (a decent candidate since they could do both versions, new transfers, and though Lynch I doubt Criterion are interested)

Tremors (with the new film and series, might be that Universal want to hold onto it, but definitely ripe for improvement)
Cape Fear (can't see it, they wouldn't get most of those involved, let's be honest)
12 Monkeys (Arrow have it for the UK, and it's likely Criterion will want it for the US, unless Arrow finally have a Universal deal there)
Waterworld (Plenty of possibilities here; I'd love them to tackle it if Arrow don't)
The Frighteners (Very good transfer, exhaustive extras...is there much point?)
End of Days (Dated transfer, few extras... no Arnie, but I'd be happy to see it)

Pitch Black (Could they improve much on the existing release?)
Red Dragon (A possibility if they decide to do Hannibal, but again, very good transfer and decent extras on the current release)
Shaun of the Dead (Might improve on the transfer but the extras?)
Skeleton Key (The current release is lacking in all departments so it's viable)
Dead Silence (Jeff recently hinted that he regretted not picking this up a few years ago, so maybe they might revisit it?)


I might have left one or two out but the point is that they weren't exactly blessed with options, and as BrianJoynt pointed out the line surely wouldn't have lasted past 2018 in its current form without a major new deal.

Shaun of the Dead with new 2K restoration be nice! Tremors i can see that happening with the original movie with new 2K restoration and all goodies.

Criterion i'm sure has their eyes set on 12 Monkeys! Waterworld with both cuts on a 2-disc 2K remastered collector's edition be nice.

Dracula 1979 in a CE would be something for fans of the fan and would sell! Hannibal and Red Dragon CEs would be nice for hannibal lector fans.

End of Days in a new 2K restored version in a CE be awesome too.

Dead Silence CE and Pitch Black CE be nice too!

Anyone wants that Snow White a Tale of Terror on BD from Universal/Scream?

[GasmaskAvenger]

I can see them doing Scream Factory releases of Feardotcom and House on Haunted Hill, perhaps with William Malone's input.

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

I can see them doing Scream Factory releases of Feardotcom and House on Haunted Hill, perhaps with William Malone's input.

House on Haunted Hill 1999 remake in a CE would be something with new HD transfer or 2K and extras galore to please those who enjoyed the remake and it was a better 1999 remake of a horror classic than the crappy Haunting.

Ok folks, how about Ringu movies boxset?

[Nailwraps]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Dracula (have said they would only do if they could present the original colour timing; that, a new transfer for both versions, and extras would make a worthwhile release)

They could appease Universal and do what they did for TCM 2; present the US version with both color timings.

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

An American Werewolf in London (the last release featured a new scan and many extras, and was cheap; is there much point?)

The last release's transfer is debatable if I'm to understand that (correct me if I'm wrong). A Scream CE could feature a definitive transfer, optional original Mono, and some few odds and ends (including trailers, TV spots, and radio spots)

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Dune (a decent candidate since they could do both versions, new transfers, and though Lynch I doubt Criterion are interested)
Tremors (with the new film and series, might be that Universal want to hold onto it, but definitely ripe for improvement)
Waterworld (Plenty of possibilities here; I'd love them to tackle it if Arrow don't)

Agreed for Scream CE.

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

The Frighteners (Very good transfer, exhaustive extras...is there much point?)

New 4K restorations and interviews would be nice. Not that there was anything wrong with Universal's release.




Also, 2 other Universal titles they should look into sublicensing in a few years are Unfriended and Green Inferno.

[RedHarvest]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

From the MGM catalogue, the only potential CE's left for Scream (within reason) are Hannibal and The Amityville Horror (2006). There are more left in the Universal catalogue (again, all double dips) but it would depend entirely on the willingness of Universal to licence out certain titles to Scream. If they aren't willing to give up the Chucky films and Jaws sequels say, there isn't much left:

Duel (could do both versions, but I sincerely doubt Spielberg would participate)
Dracula (have said they would only do if they could present the original colour timing; that, a new transfer for both versions, and extras would make a worthwhile release)

An American Werewolf in London (the last release featured a new scan and many extras, and was cheap; is there much point?)
Dune (a decent candidate since they could do both versions, new transfers, and though Lynch I doubt Criterion are interested)

Tremors (with the new film and series, might be that Universal want to hold onto it, but definitely ripe for improvement)
Cape Fear (can't see it, they wouldn't get most of those involved, let's be honest)
12 Monkeys (Arrow have it for the UK, and it's likely Criterion will want it for the US, unless Arrow finally have a Universal deal there)
Waterworld (Plenty of possibilities here; I'd love them to tackle it if Arrow don't)
The Frighteners (Very good transfer, exhaustive extras...is there much point?)
End of Days (Dated transfer, few extras... no Arnie, but I'd be happy to see it)

Pitch Black (Could they improve much on the existing release?)
Red Dragon (A possibility if they decide to do Hannibal, but again, very good transfer and decent extras on the current release)
Shaun of the Dead (Might improve on the transfer but the extras?)
Skeleton Key (The current release is lacking in all departments so it's viable)
Dead Silence (Jeff recently hinted that he regretted not picking this up a few years ago, so maybe they might revisit it?)


I might have left one or two out but the point is that they weren't exactly blessed with options, and as BrianJoynt pointed out the line surely wouldn't have lasted past 2018 in its current form without a major new deal.

Great post. I'd be interested in Dead Silence, which is ripe for rediscovery, especially since James Wan is now a prominent force in the industry. But you hit the nail on the head with the info about these other films. Not much going for most of them. Waterworld would be an interesting release, especially if they could include the different cuts. I could see them going back to revisit the Child's Play sequels, since last year the new box came out, and it wouldn't have made sense to most buyers to buy individual releases. I'd be on board for Dracula, as well. But the others seem like they'd be more trouble than they're worth...

Warner is the future for Scream Factory. And they could survive off Warner for years. I'm inclined to believe a friend of mine who says Warner creates the best films. I just hope these sell well, and that other studios take note.

[MJD64]

I believe the problem with Dracula '79 rests with director John Badham's steadfast refusal to release it with the original color timing, though Shout did reportedly make the attempt. Badham wanted to shoot Dracula at the time in b&w to reflect the original stage production (which featured Edward Gorey's b&w sets) and Universal balked at the suggestion being that this was an A-budget film. His eyesore desaturating of the color for the early 90's Laserdisc is what we've been stuck with ever since, regrettable as it's now neither color nor b&w...and does a real disservice to the beautiful lensing by DP Gilbert Taylor.

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by BrianJoynt

So...Bloody Disgusting is covering a story on something like "Chiodo Brother Reveal Unused Practical Effects for Critters 2." Wonder why the Chiodo Brothers would be digging through unused practical effects for a 20-year old movie...

Hopefully the special features for that Scream Factory Critters Box Set!

Critters 1 and 2 in CEs plus in a separate boxset if people want all 4 movies be cool and that can be one of the extras for it.

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

From the MGM catalogue, the only potential CE's left for Scream (within reason) are Hannibal and The Amityville Horror (2006). There are more left in the Universal catalogue (again, all double dips) but it would depend entirely on the willingness of Universal to licence out certain titles to Scream. If they aren't willing to give up the Chucky films and Jaws sequels say, there isn't much left:

Duel (could do both versions, but I sincerely doubt Spielberg would participate)
Dracula (have said they would only do if they could present the original colour timing; that, a new transfer for both versions, and extras would make a worthwhile release)

An American Werewolf in London (the last release featured a new scan and many extras, and was cheap; is there much point?)
Dune (a decent candidate since they could do both versions, new transfers, and though Lynch I doubt Criterion are interested)

Tremors (with the new film and series, might be that Universal want to hold onto it, but definitely ripe for improvement)
Cape Fear (can't see it, they wouldn't get most of those involved, let's be honest)
12 Monkeys (Arrow have it for the UK, and it's likely Criterion will want it for the US, unless Arrow finally have a Universal deal there)
Waterworld (Plenty of possibilities here; I'd love them to tackle it if Arrow don't)
The Frighteners (Very good transfer, exhaustive extras...is there much point?)
End of Days (Dated transfer, few extras... no Arnie, but I'd be happy to see it)

Pitch Black (Could they improve much on the existing release?)
Red Dragon (A possibility if they decide to do Hannibal, but again, very good transfer and decent extras on the current release)
Shaun of the Dead (Might improve on the transfer but the extras?)
Skeleton Key (The current release is lacking in all departments so it's viable)
Dead Silence (Jeff recently hinted that he regretted not picking this up a few years ago, so maybe they might revisit it?)


I might have left one or two out but the point is that they weren't exactly blessed with options, and as BrianJoynt pointed out the line surely wouldn't have lasted past 2018 in its current form without a major new deal.

Yeah, I can't seem them doing Cape Fear. Funny enough, I just the bought blu ray. I believe the making of feature is over 1 hr and basically covers everyone with maybe a lack of imput by Nolte. I can't picture Scream getting any of these cast members.

[dwk]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

The last release's transfer is debatable if I'm to understand that (correct me if I'm wrong). A Scream CE could feature a definitive transfer, optional original Mono, and some few odds and ends (including trailers, TV spots, and radio spots)

I believe that the American Werewolf in London transfer has some DNR, but as it was a recent 6K scan of the negative, I don't see Universal letting anyone access those materials for a new scan.

[Yami]

I’m definitely in the market for a new release of Duel that offers both cuts and a choice of aspect ratios.

I’d love a collection of other early Spielberg odds and ends like Amblin’ and Something Evil, but their total absence from home video and retrospectives likely suggests that Spielberg is keeping them under lock and key.

[DenOfEarth]

The Bone Collector anyone?

[Tone blare]

I'm sure it's been asked but what about trick r treat ? Its screaming for a collectors edition and could definitely use a remaster.

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by Tone blare

I'm sure it's been asked but what about trick r treat ? Its screaming for a collectors edition and could definitely use a remaster.

Studio Canal has that, try Lionsgate's Vestron for Trick R Treat.

[jarrod_inf]

Obviously there is a strong market for CEs of already issued films and Shout would be stupid not to exploit that. They have said that Mad Max has been far and away their bestseller. If cranking out films already released gets them funds to take on less popular and risky releases (and hopefully stay in the black) then all the better. Their strategy appears to be working quite well. So what if they slap a cardboard box on a case, whip up some new art, and have one NEW special feature on a film that already has a stacked release. That doesn’t hurt anyone and provides options for those who haven’t purchased it yet. I don’t own and have never owned ITMOM and I have two choices to consider now based on my budget, how I feel about the film, etc. I have double dipped SF releases only a few times because it’s my money.

[Member-222782]

Dark City would be cool if they're doing New Line titles.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by Tone blare

I'm sure it's been asked but what about trick r treat ? Its screaming for a collectors edition and could definitely use a remaster.

Originally Posted by DenOfEarth

Studio Canal has that, try Lionsgate's Vestron for Trick R Treat.

Pretty sure he meant the 2007 film, not the 1980's film "Trick or Treat".



This is a Warner property and if the licensing agreement goes on long enough seems like an easy collectors edition choice. Personally though I hope this one is a long long ways off. It's fun, no doubt about it, but there are other unreleased films and even some double dips that are in bigger need of a re-release than this.

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Pretty sure he meant the 2007 film, not the 1980's film "Trick or Treat".



This is a Warner property and if the licensing agreement goes on long enough seems like an easy collectors edition choice. Personally though I hope this one is a long long ways off. It's fun, no doubt about it, but there are other unreleased films and even some double dips that are in bigger need of a re-release than this.

Oh ok, Trick R treat great movie and i like Trick Or Treat as well.