Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

I always thought a NOES box set would come out from Sf before a F13th one did, just because of the fact that Warner owns all the movies in that franchise and SF wouldn't have to make a deal with 2 different studios (like with F13), But since nothing has come of a NOES, i'm beginning to think that it's due to Warner being more protective of their franchise than they are of the 3 F13 movies they own.

I really think that if this box set does well for them, that Warner will be more willing to let them do a NOES boxset.

I also don't know if it affects anything, but the first film is with the Craven estate now that 35 years have passed since its first copyright filing.

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

I also don't know if it affects anything, but the first film is with the Craven estate now that 35 years have passed since its first copyright filing.

Is it really? That's an interesting wrench thrown in, if that's true.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

Is it really? That's an interesting wrench thrown in, if that's true.

It's fairly recent, as it took place towards the end of 2019. Here's the Bloody Disgusting article that talks about it briefly.

The gist of it WB still owns the film internationally and owns the sequels, but the rights to the original film are now with Craven's estate. If WB is still distributing the original, then nothing's changed in terms of releases; they just don't make as much money off it anymore.

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

It's fairly recent, as it took place towards the end of 2019. Here's the Bloody Disgusting article that talks about it briefly.

The gist of it WB still owns the film internationally and owns the sequels, but the rights to the original film are now with Craven's estate. If WB is still distributing the original, then nothing's changed in terms of releases; they just don't make as much money off it anymore.

Oh yeah, i do remember now that the Craven estate was saying a while back that they were open to new pitch ideas for a new NOES film.

But Warner is still distributing all the movies, including the first one, so i don't see it being a big factor. But who knows.

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by Christophah Maghen

Thee first Nightmare movie is arguably better than all of the Friday the 13ths , then the quality drops dramatically, 3 is ok and the rest of them are TERRIBLE, imo all of the 80s Friday the 13ths are very good.

Disagree 3 and 4 i think are awesome sequels to Elm Street

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

Is it time to start with the conspiracy theories that the reason we're not getting a newly pressed FvJ disc is because Scream's holding off on doing so for their Elm Street set?

Tbh, if Scream did put out a NOES set, I'd expect Freddy vs Jason to be the same disc again (just as I anticipate the remake utilizing the existing WB disc).

[Member-222782]

I actually saw Terror In the Aisles theatrically when I was a kid. It was the second feature in a double bill. Don't remember much about it but I didn't realize it's a "documentary" made up of clips of horror films until recently. What an odd choice to pick up. I don't really have 90 minutes to watch a montage of clips - I'd rather watch the entire films

[KenHurd]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Tbh, if Scream did put out a NOES set, I'd expect Freddy vs Jason to be the same disc again (just as I anticipate the remake utilizing the existing WB disc).

If they do use the same disc for Freddy vs. Jason, I hope they use the one that came with the original tin box set. It had a DTS-HD MA 6.1 audio track, which I thought sounded better than the Dolby True HD 5.1 track that was on the original stand-alone release.

[Camp_Crystal_Lake]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

I always thought a NOES box set would come out from Sf before a F13th one did, just because of the fact that Warner owns all the movies in that franchise and SF wouldn't have to make a deal with 2 different studios (like with F13), But since nothing has come of a NOES, i'm beginning to think that it's due to Warner being more protective of their franchise than they are of the 3 F13 movies they own.

I really think that if this box set does well for them, that Warner will be more willing to let them do a NOES boxset.

I really hope Warner releases 4K’s of the Nightmare series, instead of another Blu Ray set.

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by Camp_Crystal_Lake

I really hope Warner releases 4K’s of the Nightmare series, instead of another Blu Ray set.

The rate Warner are going, I can see them doing a 4K release of the first, but the rest of the series seem unlikely. Of course, as I suggested before, they may be more compelled if Scream offered to share the costs of new restorations, so that after any new box set is released Warner might issue them on 4K further down the line.

Also bear in mind that we're probably talking about at least another year, so who knows, Scream might have embraced 4K releases themselves by then and offer a 4K set. That said, you'd then get people clamouring for a 4K upgrade of the F13th set, and realistically I can't see that happening (especially as a few of the films in the series don't look to be getting new 4K scans).

[battlechateau]

I don't have much hope that the Craven estate will play ball for a complete collection.

Dead by Daylight, is a survival horror which utilizes iconic film slashers like Michael Myers and Ghostface. Freddy Kruger was added in lot the game October 2017, but when the game received a port for the Nintendo Switch September 2019, Freddy was mysteriously absent. The ongoing belief is that the Craven estate, upon gaining control over the rights, prevented the usage of Freddy in this new port since this didn't happen to other DLC characters.

While it's not entirety clear how this can affect the distribution of the NOES movies, if the Craven estate is truly responsible for what happened in Dead by Daylight, I have to wonder if they could pose as an obstacle here too.

[sxerunner]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Tbh, if Scream did put out a NOES set, I'd expect Freddy vs Jason to be the same disc again (just as I anticipate the remake utilizing the existing WB disc).

FvJ is slowly coming for Abbot & Costello Meets Frankenstein’s record of most re-releases via sets/collections.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

The rate Warner are going, I can see them doing a 4K release of the first, but the rest of the series seem unlikely. Of course, as I suggested before, they may be more compelled if Scream offered to share the costs of new restorations, so that after any new box set is released Warner might issue them on 4K further down the line.

Also bear in mind that we're probably talking about at least another year, so who knows, Scream might have embraced 4K releases themselves by then and offer a 4K set. That said, you'd then get people clamouring for a 4K upgrade of the F13th set, and realistically I can't see that happening (especially as a few of the films in the series don't look to be getting new 4K scans).

curious question why are the only films getting a 4k remaster are the first 4 films seems strange to exclude the rest.

[Zoran H]

Originally Posted by batman2000

curious question why are the only films getting a 4k remaster are the first 4 films seems strange to exclude the rest.

So they can sell a complete 4k box to everyone a year from now?

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by batman2000

curious question why are the only films getting a 4k remaster are the first 4 films seems strange to exclude the rest.

It's a financial thing; the more films there are in a franchise, the more $$ needs to be spent. Historically, long-running franchises have always gotten the shaft the further out you go from the first 2 or 3 films. Frankly I'm surprised we're getting fresh 4K scans for II-IV.

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by Camp_Crystal_Lake

I really hope Warner releases 4K’s of the Nightmare series, instead of another Blu Ray set.

[Show spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZfZ8uWaOFI

[WKoA13]

Originally Posted by batman2000

curious question why are the only films getting a 4k remaster are the first 4 films seems strange to exclude the rest.

Combination of costs, as well as this being a multi-studio, multi title deal, and so Scream probably had zero say in which ones got new scans/transfers, and the ones that did were probably done/provided by the studio.


Or...something something "Scream bad", and/or some assumption that a third party label will pay the massive licensing, scanning, and production cost to make a full 4K UHD set in less than a year.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

It's a financial thing; the more films there are in a franchise, the more $$ needs to be spent. Historically, long-running franchises have always gotten the shaft the further out you go from the first 2 or 3 films. Frankly I'm surprised we're getting fresh 4K scans for II-IV.

And a fresh 2K scan for JGTH (I'm very happy about that).

[freddy=legend]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

I also don't know if it affects anything, but the first film is with the Craven estate now that 35 years have passed since its first copyright filing.

I don't think that's too big an issue considering all the legal hell the Friday franchise is going through currently & this set is still a reality. With Nightmare being way more stable; I think that's et would be much easier assuming the parties involved want to do it.

[Boggle]

Originally Posted by Christophah Maghen

Thee first Nightmare movie is arguably better than all of the Friday the 13ths , then the quality drops dramatically, 3 is ok and the rest of them are TERRIBLE, imo all of the 80s Friday the 13ths are very good.

This is bullshit, Mahgen. I generally prefer the Friday the 13th franchise, but come on. They're not all terrible. Dream Warriors is better than ok, it's a classic. Give Nightmare 4 another watch. Some say it's their favorite sequel and I can see why.

I have to say though, last time I watched New Nightmare I was cringing hard. I thought that one was decent at the time, but yikes. It did not hold up for me.