Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[zbinks]

Originally Posted by tonylopez

The extra surprise has to be an interview with Rick Baker on the IMM!

This. Rick Baker's effects are the real star of the show and realistically the only reason to take IMM even remotely seriously.

[Member-222782]

My two cents plus other odds and ends

I can live with GODSEND (or any movie) on DVD just as long as it's not a butchered version and it's in the Original Aspect Ratio. This includes fullscreen if it was shot that way. Fake widescreen is just as bad as pan and scan IMO. I don't mind too much if it's an old transfer - but it's gotta be fully uncut.

I have a deep respect for the art of filmmaking. I think even cheesy movies deserve to be preserved and shown exactly as the director intended. This is why I believe something like MST3K is trash. You have silhouettes of presumed hipsters masquerading as robots (huh?) superimposed over the bottom of the screen making fun of movies someone gave part of his soul to make? I liken this to rich people making fun of poor people. Or someone looking at a disabled person and snickering. It's just not right. I'll never understand why someone would waste their time watching a film while listening to these jokers make fun of (in their eyes) bad films.

I would LOVE for Shout to make a deal with Lionsgate since they have a ton of cult movies but not until they've sucked MGM dry. It'll be the same situation as with the last of the Corman titles - Shout will start to focus on the new acquisition and begin to lose interest in the MGM stuff and leave desired titles to drift in the wind. I don't want that to happen.

[Adcatalano]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

I thought the 'feature' comment was in reference to The Fog, not Incredible Melting Man:



Although I don't understand how people who aren't fans of The Fog would have any interest in any extra on The Fog, unless perhaps it was a historical documentary on pirate curses/legends or something?

Maybe on the setting, bodega bay in real life, which was also used for the birds (and now where John carpenter lives)

[Terrorfirmer]

HOLY CRAP! ya miss out on so many things when you don't check in for a bit. I'm beyond excited for Swamp Thing, Scream Factory you continue to impress now if only we could get Elvira on blu, what a slipcover that would be

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Adcatalano

Dang, there goes a lot of my interest in the release, might have blind bought it for the mst3k

Ditto. I'll wait for it included with a future boxset instead. Only way I care about the IMM.

[Jimmy S]

Originally Posted by tonylopez

The extra surprise has to be an interview with Rick Baker on the IMM!

This is what I was thinking, but unless I'm wrong Rick Baker never do interview so I doubt it will be the big surprise...

[tonylopez]

Originally Posted by Jimmy S

This is what I was thinking, but unless I'm wrong Rick Baker never do interview so I doubt it will be the big surprise...

Oh no, he will do interviews but he is still a very busy man. Recently he did an interview on the Criterion's ISLAND OF LOST SOULS.

[Movie-Brat]

Originally Posted by cine74

I have a deep respect for the art of filmmaking. I think even cheesy movies deserve to be preserved and shown exactly as the director intended. This is why I believe something like MST3K is trash. You have silhouettes of presumed hipsters masquerading as robots (huh?) superimposed over the bottom of the screen making fun of movies someone gave part of his soul to make? I liken this to rich people making fun of poor people. Or someone looking at a disabled person and snickering. It's just not right. I'll never understand why someone would waste their time watching a film while listening to these jokers make fun of (in their eyes) bad films.

I have huge respect for the art of filmmaking to but I'd like to be good sport when it comes to MST3k or anything from Channel Awesome.

People can find the joy in something good or bad.

[Ruemorgue10]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

"a feature that the fans are going to go crazy for, and you don't even have to be a fan of 'The Fog', you are still going to love it!..."

It's probably Jamie Lee, but i'm thinking it could also be an interview with the reclusive Rob Bottin.

[grrrarg]

Originally Posted by Jimmy S

Too bad... I will skip it in that case. I can't stand that show and to include this on the release show a very great disrespect to the source material...

Of course the fact I'll get it or not won't make a difference but lack of respect equals no sale for me.

The funny thing is, there are people would would buy it ONLY if it included the mst3k episode

But you don't have to worry since it isn't included!

[Momma]

BLU-RAY & COMBO PACKS:

1. "Halloween II" Collector's Edition - September 18th, 2012
2. "Halloween III" Collector's Edition - September 18th, 2012
3. "Terror Train" Collector's Edition - October 16th, 2012
4. "The Funhouse" Collector's Edition - October 16th, 2012
5. "They Live" Collector's Edition - November 6th, 2012
6. "Death Valley" - December 11th, 2012
7. "The Island" - December 11th, 2013
8. "Deadly Blessing" Collector's Edition - January 22nd, 2013
9. "Prison" Collector's Edition - February 19th, 2013
10. "The Nest" - February 19th, 2013
11. "TerrorVision" / "The Video Dead" - February 18th, 2013
12. "From Beyond" Collector's Edition - March 26, 2013
13. "Phantasm II" Collector's Edition - March 16, 2013
14. "The Vampire Lovers" - April 30th, 2013
15. "The Burning" Collector's Edition - May 21, 2013
16. "The Town That Dreaded Sundown" (w/ "The Evictors") - May 21, 2013
17. "Ninja III: The Domination" - June 11th, 2013
18. "Lifeforce" Collector's Edition - June 18th, 2013
19. "The Howling" Collector's Edition - June 18th, 2013
20. "Dead Souls" - June 25th, 2013
21. "The Fog" Collector's Edition - July 30th, 2013
22. "The Incredible Melting Man" - July 30th, 2013
23. "Dark Angel" - August 2013
24. "Swamp Thing" ("I Come In Peace") - August 2013
25. "Hospital Massacre" ("X-Ray") / "Schizoid" - Late Summer 2013
26. "Cockneys Vs Zombies" - Fall 2013
27. "Day of the Dead" Collector's Edition - Fall 2013
28. "Scanners II: The New Order" / "Scanners III: The Takeover" - Fall 2013
29. "Night of the Comet" Collector's Edition - Late Fall 2013
30. "The Horror Show" - Late Fall 2013
31. "The Amityville Horror" / "Amityville II: The Possession" / "Amityville 3D" Box Set - Halloween 2013

DVD EXCLUSIVES:

1. "The Godsend" - Late Fall 2013
2. "The Vagrant" - Late Fall 2013

Cliff has already said "no" to the following titles (please review before asking about a potantial release).
Special thanks to zbinks for compiling the list and to noirfan for requesting that it be added to the op.

[Show spoiler]update:

Since the start of 2013 cliff has said "no" to:

More roger corman cult classics releases
cartoons (blu-ray)
blaxploitation flix
steelbooks / digibooks


albert pyun's films other than captain america
american ninja 1 and 2
april fool's day
at play in the fields of the lord
autopsie
barbarian queen 1&2
bells
best little *****house in texas, the
biker mice from mars
blood diner
blood games
brain damage
brain dead (1990)
candyman 2
career opportunities
carrie
charles bronson flicks
child's play sequels
chopping mall
class of 1984
cold comfort farm
coldblooded
commandments
creepshow 2
critters 1-4
curtains
death spa
death wish
deathstalker 1&2
demonic toys
dolls
dolly dearest
dracula (1979)
dream team, the
eaten alive
eliminators (blu-ray)
enemy territory
escape from new york
fire starter
foxy brown
ghost story
ghosthouse
ghoul, the
greystoke: The legend of tarzan, lord of the apes
halloween 6
heart and souls
hellraiser iii: Hell on earth
house
house ii
iceman
in the mouth of madness
jesus' son
john woo's hard boiled
john woo's the killer
leaving normal
legend of the werewolf, the
les demons
leviathan
lorenzo's oil
mad dog and glory
melvin and howard
milagro beanfield war, the
motel hell
mr. Mom
ms. 45
my bloody valentine
my little pony (blu-ray)
needful things
new year's evil
nightbreed (cabal cut or otherwise)
no retreat, no surrender
pam grier collection
parents
petticoat junction: Season 3
phantasm ii: Workprint
phantom of the opera (1988)
pinocchio's revenge
prom night ii
pumpkinhead
radioland murders
razorback
return of the living dead parts 2 and 3
rollerball (1975)
rolling vengeance
savage streets
serpent and the rainbow
silent night, deadly night
simon & simon: Seasons 5 thru 8
six string samurai
sleepaway camp 2: Unhappy campers
sleepaway camp 3: Teenage wasteland
snow falling on cedars
sonny boy
the terror within
splitting heirs
squirm
stone cold
street sharks
street trash
suspiria
tag: The assassination game
tales from the crypt: Bordello of blood
tales from the crypt: Demon knight
tank
the dead pit
the death angel
the golden child
the howling ii
the rise and fall of idi amin
the taking of beverly hills
the terror within 1 and 2
the vampire lovers (dvd)
the wicker man
trancers
trespass
trigger effect, the
two family house
uhf
underneath, the
vamp
waking the dead
wet hot american summer
without warning

he has also indicated "probably not / unlikely" to:

Any echo bridge/miramax titles
friday announcements returning
euro horror cult movies
more hammer films

casper films
head of the class
jack's back
the other howling sequels

On a side-note, titles from warner brothers, paramount, sony and lionsgate should be presumed to be "no's" until/unless cliff says otherwise.

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[Momma]

Originally Posted by Momma

BLU-RAY & COMBO PACKS:

1. "Halloween II" Collector's Edition - September 18th, 2012
2. "Halloween III" Collector's Edition - September 18th, 2012
3. "Terror Train" Collector's Edition - October 16th, 2012
4. "The Funhouse" Collector's Edition - October 16th, 2012
5. "They Live" Collector's Edition - November 6th, 2012
6. "Death Valley" - December 11th, 2012
7. "The Island" - December 11th, 2013
8. "Deadly Blessing" Collector's Edition - January 22nd, 2013
9. "Prison" Collector's Edition - February 19th, 2013
10. "The Nest" - February 19th, 2013
11. "TerrorVision" / "The Video Dead" - February 18th, 2013
12. "From Beyond" Collector's Edition - March 26, 2013
13. "Phantasm II" Collector's Edition - March 16, 2013
14. "The Vampire Lovers" - April 30th, 2013
15. "The Burning" Collector's Edition - May 21, 2013
16. "The Town That Dreaded Sundown" (w/ "The Evictors") - May 21, 2013
17. "Ninja III: The Domination" - June 11th, 2013
18. "Lifeforce" Collector's Edition - June 18th, 2013
19. "The Howling" Collector's Edition - June 18th, 2013
20. "Dead Souls" - June 25th, 2013
21. "The Fog" Collector's Edition - July 30th, 2013
22. "The Incredible Melting Man" - July 30th, 2013
23. "Dark Angel" - August 2013
24. "Swamp Thing" ("I Come In Peace") - August 2013
25. "Hospital Massacre" ("X-Ray") / "Schizoid" - Late Summer 2013
26. "Cockneys Vs Zombies" - Fall 2013
27. "Day of the Dead" Collector's Edition - Fall 2013
28. "Scanners II: The New Order" / "Scanners III: The Takeover" - Fall 2013
29. "Night of the Comet" Collector's Edition - Late Fall 2013
30. "The Horror Show" - Late Fall 2013
31. "The Amityville Horror" / "Amityville II: The Possession" / "Amityville 3D" Box Set - Halloween 2013

DVD EXCLUSIVES:

1. "The Godsend" - Late Fall 2013
2. "The Vagrant" - Late Fall 2013

Cliff has already said "no" to the following titles (please review before asking about a potantial release).
Special thanks to zbinks for compiling the list and to noirfan for requesting that it be added to the op.

[Show spoiler]update:

Since the start of 2013 cliff has said "no" to:

More roger corman cult classics releases
cartoons (blu-ray)
blaxploitation flix
steelbooks / digibooks


albert pyun's films other than captain america
american ninja 1 and 2
april fool's day
at play in the fields of the lord
autopsie
barbarian queen 1&2
bells
best little *****house in texas, the
biker mice from mars
blood diner
blood games
brain damage
brain dead (1990)
candyman 2
career opportunities
carrie
charles bronson flicks
child's play sequels
chopping mall
class of 1984
cold comfort farm
coldblooded
commandments
creepshow 2
critters 1-4
curtains
death spa
death wish
deathstalker 1&2
demonic toys
dolls
dolly dearest
dracula (1979)
dream team, the
eaten alive
eliminators (blu-ray)
enemy territory
escape from new york
fire starter
foxy brown
ghost story
ghosthouse
ghoul, the
greystoke: The legend of tarzan, lord of the apes
halloween 6
heart and souls
hellraiser iii: Hell on earth
house
house ii
iceman
in the mouth of madness
jesus' son
john woo's hard boiled
john woo's the killer
leaving normal
legend of the werewolf, the
les demons
leviathan
lorenzo's oil
mad dog and glory
melvin and howard
milagro beanfield war, the
motel hell
mr. Mom
ms. 45
my bloody valentine
my little pony (blu-ray)
needful things
new year's evil
nightbreed (cabal cut or otherwise)
no retreat, no surrender
pam grier collection
parents
petticoat junction: Season 3
phantasm ii: Workprint
phantom of the opera (1988)
pinocchio's revenge
prom night ii
pumpkinhead
radioland murders
razorback
return of the living dead parts 2 and 3
rollerball (1975)
rolling vengeance
savage streets
serpent and the rainbow
silent night, deadly night
simon & simon: Seasons 5 thru 8
six string samurai
sleepaway camp 2: Unhappy campers
sleepaway camp 3: Teenage wasteland
snow falling on cedars
sonny boy
the terror within
splitting heirs
squirm
stone cold
street sharks
street trash
suspiria
tag: The assassination game
tales from the crypt: Bordello of blood
tales from the crypt: Demon knight
tank
the dead pit
the death angel
the golden child
the howling ii
the rise and fall of idi amin
the taking of beverly hills
the terror within 1 and 2
the vampire lovers (dvd)
the wicker man
trancers
trespass
trigger effect, the
two family house
uhf
underneath, the
vamp
waking the dead
wet hot american summer
without warning

he has also indicated "probably not / unlikely" to:

Any echo bridge/miramax titles
friday announcements returning
euro horror cult movies
more hammer films

casper films
head of the class
jack's back
the other howling sequels

On a side-note, titles from warner brothers, paramount, sony and lionsgate should be presumed to be "no's" until/unless cliff says otherwise.

Scream Factory Website
Scream Factory Facebook
Scream Factory Twitter

Because this is the BLU-RAY forum, and most other threads on here separate the DVDs and Blu-rays, I thought I would.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by dsman71

As per Scream factorys comment on their FB page :
Scream Factory Pretty good guesses on some...however sorry to burst speculation but MELTING MAN Blu-ray will not have the MST3K episode on it. Perhaps MST3K will be able to get in the future, but it will not be on our disc.
Basically I think Jeff was saying the movie will wind up on an MST3K box set in the future no doubt, but its not an extra on the Blu Ray
Looks like the Horror Show will be a stand alone - it will do well I think

A very expensive and never on sale boxset.

Originally Posted by cine74

I have a deep respect for the art of filmmaking. I think even cheesy movies deserve to be preserved and shown exactly as the director intended. This is why I believe something like MST3K is trash. You have silhouettes of presumed hipsters masquerading as robots (huh?) superimposed over the bottom of the screen making fun of movies someone gave part of his soul to make? I liken this to rich people making fun of poor people. Or someone looking at a disabled person and snickering. It's just not right. I'll never understand why someone would waste their time watching a film while listening to these jokers make fun of (in their eyes) bad films.

You need to get out more. I hate to break it to you, but most of the movies shown on MST3K were either ill-conceived from the start or just made for a quick-buck. If not for MST3K...Manos, The Incredible Melting Man and Mitchell would only be a faint memory and never bought onto newer formats.

[redrunner97]

I think it is best said that Elvira and MST3K were the things that kept movies, like "Squirm", half way relevant to movie viewers. After all, most of the SF titles are not masterpieces, and this is what kept them alive after all these years.

I would have bought "The Incredible Melting Man" regardless of what was on it, sure I would have rather had the episode. But whether or not a movie's release contains an episode of an obscure show does not define the movie itself.

And I'm not surprised that "The Godsend" and "The Vagrant" were DVD only. I will be passing on it, because I don't buy movies on DVD when they are free on the internet in some form or another. I will happily scoop up any Blu-Ray they throw our way, as I have bought all of them so far. This is just my stance. I have not bought a DVD in almost two years. I understand that it wasn't financially possible, and I get it.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

A very expensive and never on sale boxset.




You need to get out more. I hate to break it to you, but most of the movies shown on MST3K were either ill-conceived from the start or just made for a quick-buck. If not for MST3K...Manos, The Incredible Melting Man and Mitchell would only be a faint memory and never bought onto newer formats.

I get out enough, thank you. OTOH, if you have time to sit through genuinely bad movies while listening to "robots" make comments then may I suggest YOU get out more?

Incredible Melting Man, Squirm and other similar films are getting second lives on home video because many people watched them in cinemas or on TV, fondly remember them and want them to receive the best treatment on the latest home theater format, not because they saw a condensed version of the film on a low-rent show where things are made fun of. Chances are if that's the only way you'll watch "bad" movies, you're not going to spend money on a legitimate release.

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by cine74

I get out enough, thank you. OTOH, if you have time to sit through genuinely bad movies while listening to "robots" make comments then may I suggest YOU get out more?

Incredible Melting Man, Squirm and other similar films are getting second lives on home video because many people watched them in cinemas or on TV, fondly remember them and want them to receive the best treatment on the latest home theater format, not because they saw a condensed version of the film on a low-rent show where things are made fun of. Chances are if that's the only way you'll watch "bad" movies, you're not going to spend money on a legitimate release.

Look, we get you dont like MST3K..but you dont need to post 100 times about it. And well, you dont get MST3K. As Joel would say "they dont get it"
The makers of the movie Time Chasers made the movie specifically to get the MST3K treatment. The show made many many films famous because of it. It was a very popular show, highly funny and highly entertainment to millions of viewers and having met the cast on their Cinematic Titanic tour, they are all good funny laid back people. Some people have an open mind and a sense of humor about it. Most of the films used for the were poor films and those making it knew that as well. Film might be art - would you call Manos art ? I call it dookie and if it wasnt for MST3K it wouldnt be an iconic staple as it is today.
Anyway freedom of speech says we are all entitled to our own opinions ..and well I get out too !

[benricci]

Originally Posted by cine74

I have a deep respect for the art of filmmaking. I think even cheesy movies deserve to be preserved and shown exactly as the director intended. This is why I believe something like MST3K is trash. You have silhouettes of presumed hipsters masquerading as robots (huh?) superimposed over the bottom of the screen making fun of movies someone gave part of his soul to make? I liken this to rich people making fun of poor people. Or someone looking at a disabled person and snickering. It's just not right. I'll never understand why someone would waste their time watching a film while listening to these jokers make fun of (in their eyes) bad films.

[redrunner97]

They commented on FB that "The Amityville Trilogy" will be BD only.

I am getting it because I only buy blu-ray anyway, just thought I would post for those that only buy their dvds.

I think this also means they won't be Collector's Editions, but will I'm thinking they might do some newly commissioned artwork on the actual 'box' set, compiling all 3 films, and then have the original posters on the plastic cases, with scenes on the inside. I think that would be a cool way to go about it.

[Movie-Brat]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

They commented on FB that "The Amityville Trilogy" will be BD only.

I am getting it because I only buy blu-ray anyway, just thought I would post for those that only buy their dvds.

I think this also means they won't be Collector's Editions, but will I'm thinking they might do some newly commissioned artwork on the actual 'box' set, compiling all 3 films, and then have the original posters on the plastic cases, with scenes on the inside. I think that would be a cool way to go about it.

Well I'm buying both formats anyway. I'm not that picky.

[NoirFan]

5 of the 9 Collector's Editions released so far haven't been combo packs, so I wouldn't assume that the lack of DVDs means they won't be Collector's Editions. Still, I wouldn't think that a box set would have a commissioned art slipcover, or poster(s), so your description of the set's appearance sounds about right to me. I'm thinking two discs - one with the first film and its extras, and a second disc with the two sequels and probably an interview/retrospective on each one, plus perhaps commentary track(s).