Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by steev210

I was hoping for Army of Darkness on 4K for October. Strange there hasn't been any updates on this title since they announced it last year.

I too was hoping it would come.

I upgraded the first two Evil Dead films to 4K and ditched my DVD of AOD this past year, so I'll have to get a previous release to watch in my marathon this year. I suppose I'll get the Scream collector's edition in case they end up omitting some of the cuts or extras on the 4K.

[WZA]

To be fair WAC doesn’t have a spotless record when it comes to QC either. I can’t believe they never fixed their trash release of Leatherface. I’m actually hoping Scream can get their hands on that one and give it a proper release.

[tylerc904]

I will definitely pick up Killer Party. Unsure about Deadly Friend (never seen it), but may get it as well.

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by dressedtokill

What advantages does WAC offer over SF? Lower prices and most importantly A/V wise and in terms of QC they're mileeees better. WAC treatment = 4k scan of OCN (I know there has been a few exceptions)

More than a few - consistent 4K scans of the OCN from Warner Archive is a relatively recent phenomenon. Moreover, I believe more modern titles (say 60s onwards) still generally get the favoured 2K scan of the interpositive treatment.

It's worth bearing in mind that Warner do the scans for Scream Factory, so I see no reason why many of the titles they've licenced wouldn't get the same treatment if they were part of the Warner Archive line (let's face it, they're not exactly the most prestigious films in Warner's library). I'm guessing the only reason Return to Salem's Lot is getting a 4K scan of the OCN is because it's the best surviving element in Warner's archives.

[jcole8882]

Does Scream have any other deals? Seems like their warner deal will be running thin sooner or later...

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by jcole8882

Does Scream have any other deals? Seems like their warner deal will be running thin sooner or later...

Well we've seen a couple of new Paramount announcements this year, so who knows if there are more titles from that deal to reveal. But even so, I think Warner Bros, even now, offers the most potential releases for Scream Factory in terms of the major studios (there's still many 60s and 70s titles in terms of new to Blu-ray candidates, not to mention those with double dip CE potential), so it makes sense for them to cultivate this relationship as much as possible.

[SpazeBlue]

Originally Posted by StopSnitchinStopLyin

That wouldn’t matter dawn of the discs stole watermarked Dementia 13 artwork and claimed he got it off Amazon.

He blocked a lot of people for that one

Isn't this coming from the same person who takes tyrok's pics, filters them, and passes them off as their own?

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

So it could be barebones instead of having extras?

Dont forget the ugly oval in WACs Leatherface bluray. Glad SF is releasing it. Great extras and better quality.

[guccipunkstar]

Between Killer Party, Alone In The Dark and He Knows You're Alone SF has slowly been wilting down my slasher wishlist, keep em coming !!

[SonnybytheSea]

I'd say SF releasing Deadly Friend and Killer Party and Nothing But Trouble on the Select line, definitely makes up for October being a "Light" month....

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

Just in case anyone didn't see it:

Side Note: We anticipate being asked if we found any alternate footage from the film (as seen in the original theatrical trailer) or Craven's more milder original feature-length cut. Unfortunately, we could not locate any lost footage after investigating. Sorry, we tried. As fans of the film ourselves we wanted to see that too!

Not going to lie, I'm a bit disappointed we are not getting Wes Craven's Cut of DF. I'm more surprised that they can't find the footage at all, since DF was made after Warner had already implemented the "no destroying of unused footage" after the restoration of A Star Is Born (1954)! It's one of the reason we have multiple versions of Blade Runner (1982)!

[SpazeBlue]

Originally Posted by StopSnitchinStopLyin

Man
You geek , films at home and bill hunt haters are so pathetic you will literally lie in everyone of your post



Go outside and touch grass homie

There's been proof. It happened with Last Action Hero, for example:

Originally Posted by SpazeBlue

Dang, he actually took tyrok's pic and just filtered it a bit to pass it off as his own.

tyrok's:

[Show spoiler]

GeekGab's:

Originally Posted by Gacivory

He’s been doing that for awhile. For someone who seems to complain about this and allegedly not have an account. He sure spends a lot of time here.

It appears the tweet (and thus picture) has since been removed, so don't worry, there's no surviving "proof".

But it's evidently happened more than once, so there's probably more proof out there. (Unless you go back and delete those, too. Hurry!)

[locomotive]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Not a Scream title, but I found the cover art for Nothing But Trouble (releasing Oct. 26). It'll be under the Select line. I think this was supposed to be a September (or August) release, but got pushed to October, as it was listed along with some older Shout titles that were announced a while back.

Alright instant pre order music please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P32O...ature=youtu.be

[Mykill_Myers]

Originally Posted by DrEricVornoff

Those of you considering purchasing Shout Factory's Killer Party when it is released in October... please take this bit of information into account prior to pre-ordering...

I don't know about anyone else but this is a deal breaker for me...

Per the IMDB website:



And in case anyone is wondering if Shout re-instated those lost minutes... they have not. The run time given on Shout's site is 91 minutes... which is the original theatrical runtime... and Shout has the film listed as rated R... not Unrated.

Just a friendly FYI...

Also, The film suffered severe cuts by the MPAA. As a result, most of the murders occur off-camera and feature little to no gore or violence. Because of this, the filmmakers edited the film in such a way in that the murders seem to happen immediately after each other in quick succession...


I'm disappointed to say that the theatrical version is unwatchable for me.
The editing is bad and the cuts are way too obvious. Noticing all of that and knowing what could have been spoils the party for me.

Did SF really have access to Warner's archive/vaults to check for cut footage? I doubt it.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Mykill_Myers

Also, The film suffered severe cuts by the MPAA. As a result, most of the murders occur off-camera and feature little to no gore or violence. Because of this, the filmmakers edited the film in such a way in that the murders seem to happen immediately after each other in quick succession...


I'm disappointed to say that the theatrical version is unwatchable for me.
The editing is bad and the cuts are way too obvious. Noticing all of that and knowing what could have been spoils the party for me.

Did SF really have access to Warner's archive/vaults to check for cut footage? I doubt it.

What's done is done - nothing we can do about it now. I'm just glad we're getting an HD upgrade of the film and would never "boycott" a release because of what some shortsighted studio executives decided a long time ago. Also, I don't doubt SF's claims that they tried to find the footage. As they said, they're big fans too.

[DrEricVornoff]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

All of that was already known. Shout looked into it, and was not able to source anything. Too bad that an exclusion of a cut of the movie that doesn't exist and hasn't been seen by the general public is a deal-breaker for you

Originally Posted by Mykill_Myers

...I'm disappointed to say that the theatrical version is unwatchable for me.
The editing is bad and the cuts are way too obvious. Noticing all of that and knowing what could have been spoils the party for me...

Originally Posted by Cinema84

What's done is done - nothing we can do about it now. I'm just glad we're getting an HD upgrade of the film and would never "boycott" a release because of what some shortsighted studio executives decided a long time ago. Also, I don't doubt SF's claims that they tried to find the footage. As they said, they're big fans too.

I don't think anyone is implying that SF is at fault here... and if my post gave that impression - for this I apologize - it was not my intent...

Cinema84 is right... "what's done is done"...

But let me offer some perspective from my end...

First off... let me start by saying that I'm a huge 80s Horror/Slasher fan... the more the better... and this release is normally one I would jump behind...

But the fact remains... I've already spent thousands this year on physical media and where I live - shelf space is unfortunately limited right now...

Killer Party would also be a blind buy for me... so I did a little research on it like I do when I blind buy titles... and I found out that these cuts were made by the studio and that most (if not all) of the kills are off screen.

I'd be lying if I didn't admit that a huge reason I enjoy 80s horror/slashers is the kills! And I know this is the case with a lot of us fans... so being someone with limited shelf space who has already spent a bundle this year... I have to be a little more discriminating with my purchases. So when I found out that this film is in essence an impotent 80s horror film... this was an easy pass for me.

I'm not saying I won't give this a chance down the road... maybe if it's on sale... because I will also admit that gory kills are not the ONLY thing that make an 80s horror film great... but it's definitely a big factor (IMO). So, I will not be pre-ordering this Day 1 at full price... that's all.

Furthermore, if you are a fan of this film and would like to make this a DAY 1! Have at it! I support and encourage you to follow your heart! I'm sure there are films that I think are great that many here would think are a slog... everyone's tastes are their own. I just felt it would be helpful to let anyone (like me) who have never seen this film know what they were getting into before they make the purchase. That's all.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx

Oh golly gee I sure wish I could get a lower quality release from SF complete with 84 hours of talking head interviews

I appreciate some of Shout's efforts at producing extras, but man they have way too many interviews with second assistant make-up artist's third cousin removed's postal carrier's brother's dog trainers. I'm just not a fan of most talking head interviews unless it's someone who can be genuinely articulate and interesting, which is few and far between, especially when you have to reach so far for some/any kind of connection to an older movie. Critic and historian commentaries and visual essays are way more substantially entertaining and informative to me than a production catering supervisor old lady with supernova dyed red hair blabbing her guts out.

A release loaded with extras I have no interest in ever watching is the same thing as barebones to me. But I do hasten to add that Shout often serves up solid trailers, TV/radio spots and as a student of advertising, I always welcome those. But other than pricing, I really don't see any definitive advantage between WAC over Shout or vice versa. YMMV.

[BarnDoor]

I think there's an honest assessment to be made in this Scream Factory vs Warner Archive debate.

Last 80s horror film Warner Archive released was... ? Well, Looker came out in September 2018, I guess that might qualify. But over the course of their near 9-year existence in Blu-ray terms, I only count The Hunger, Wolfen and Night School.

Compare that to Scream Factory's slate of 80s WB-owned new to Blu-ray titles this year alone: 10 by my count.

And I use the 80s only as the most explicit example. I haven't counted how many horror titles Warner Archive have released since 2012, but I doubt it's over 30-35. Since the floodgates opened in May 2018, we must have seen well over 50 WB titles released on Blu-ray by Scream Factory, many of which we probably wouldn't have on Blu-ray otherwise. Clearly Warner Archive have put greater emphasis on 30s-50s titles over the past couple of years, with 70s and 80s titles hardly in abundance. Did anyone honestly think Alone in the Dark and Killer Party were just around the WA corner? Scream even gave us a couple of great Val Lewton releases when Warner obviously couldn't be all that fussed (one suspects Scream's decision to drop whatever Lewton titles they had left probably forced Warner Archive's hand at last). And I haven't even mentioned the apparent bleak prospects for Warner Archive's future.

Beggars can't be choosers and all that...

[postmodel]

While I understand the flack that some of the “talking head” interviews get

[Show spoiler](as opposed to talking…anus…?)

sometimes these “lesser” titled individuals provide some cool stories and offer insight on how the set was from their POV in their “lesser” position. It’s even better if it’s a film I love…hell I’d love some random person who was on set almost everyday of Deadly Friend to talk about Wes Craven and how he handled the cast and crew and even producer interference if they witnessed some of that.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by DrEricVornoff

I don't think anyone is implying that SF is at fault here... and if my post gave that impression - for this I apologize - it was not my intent...

Cinema84 is right... "what's done is done"...

But let me offer some perspective from my end...

First off... let me start by saying that I'm a huge 80s Horror/Slasher fan... the more the better... and this release is normally one I would jump behind...

But the fact remains... I've already spent thousands this year on physical media and where I live - shelf space is unfortunately limited right now...

Killer Party would also be a blind buy for me... so I did a little research on it like I do when I blind buy titles... and I found out that these cuts were made by the studio and that most (if not all) of the kills are off screen.

I'd be lying if I didn't admit that a huge reason I enjoy 80s horror/slashers is the kills! And I know this is the case with a lot of us fans... so being someone with limited shelf space who has already spent a bundle this year... I have to be a little more discriminating with my purchases. So when I found out that this film is in essence an impotent 80s horror film... this was an easy pass for me.

I'm not saying I won't give this a chance down the road... maybe if it's on sale... because I will also admit that gory kills are not the ONLY thing that make an 80s horror film great... but it's definitely a big factor (IMO). So, I will not be pre-ordering this Day 1 at full price... that's all.

Furthermore, if you are a fan of this film and would like to make this a DAY 1! Have at it! I support and encourage you to follow your heart! I'm sure there are films that I think are great that many here would think are a slog... everyone's tastes are their own. I just felt it would be helpful to let anyone (like me) who have never seen this film know what they were getting into before they make the purchase. That's all.

Doesn't researching the film to the degree that you have ruin the blind buying experience? This is will be a Blind buy for me as well but other than watching the trailer and seeing what the general consensus buzz was here on the boards that was as far as I went. I saw more than a few folks label it as tame but those folks didn't go so deep as to spell out how and when Kills occur in the film.

I fully get where you are coming from but mid 1980's horror was often so much more than the few seconds of kills/gore that we were allowed. There is an atmosphere or ambience to many of these films that simply doesn't exist at any other point in film history. To be blunt, these films, and the people that made them, looked like they were having fun. This often permeates throughout the picture and is a tangible quality that so many can and do pick up on from this era. Yeah it stinks that it's not everything it could be, but researching to the degree you have robs the viewer of the true blind buying experience and all of the other qualities the film may offer beyond just a handful of death sequences.

[dylrichard02]

Count me in as one who loves special features. After some of the great prices at least year's Shocktober sale, plus the lack of a summer sale this year, I'm thinking this year Shocktober might be another one for the books, softening the blow of SFs admittedly higher prices. WAC titles cost between $13-$17 on average on Amazon from my estimation, so yes $25 is much more steep for some new interviews, but in my case I love to hear about the sets and production, the cast and crew, I love film from a filmmaking stand point as much as a visual/audible stand point. As such the behind the scenes is great for me and the main reason I have more Scream Factory releases than any other label or studio. Unfortunately not everyone can have the video/audio presentation quality of Arrow, but Shout has access to a lot of good films others wouldn't or don't care about in the US. If they could just start making all of their releases the quality of their new excellent The Dead Zone.