Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[cropsy]

some american bright spark from this thread could charge a couple of quid profit per blu-ray and have resonable shippin rates and clean up,gap in the marketplace and all that.hope its a mix up though.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse42

So let me get this right...Amazon says this new restriction comes from the manufacturer and Cliff says they have nothing to do with it?!

Hmmmm.

Is it possible Cliff (Scream) has nothing to do with it but someone else at Shout Factory is involved. Technically speaking Cliff would be correct then as he and Scream have nothing to do with it but Shout Factory could.

[IAmIronMan123]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

I get what you're saying. Its kinda like this:

Amazon.com = US
Amazon.ca = Canads

Just order it from the Amazon that represents you, assuming you're issue is not with the Canadian Amazon.

its already been said that listings for any shout factory title on an amazon that isnt us will be removed eventually and the smaller online stores are also not allowed to sell them either

[GxyExpress999]

Originally Posted by MattFini

Per their Facebook:

Personally, this is no biggie for me. I love the poster art for both of those.

[jeepersitsthecreeper]

THIS IS A NICHE MARKET.... THESE FILMS ARE NOT BLOCKBUSTERS!!
NO ONE WANTS THEM EXCEPT FANS.....

and they just lost about a quarter of them....

Think of how many people bought these internationally, goodbye money.
HELLO ANCHOR BAY 2!

[demonknight]

Strange, some unknown distributor is releasing "VHS Retro Style DVDs" of cult classics! They are region-free DVD-Rs going for around $13 each.
These include:
-Just Before Dawn
-Kingdom of the Spiders
-Chopping Mall
-Popcorn
-Alice, Sweet Alice
-Blood Beach
-Patrick
-Pieces
and several more!
Was this known before?

[jsvg00]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

I get what you're saying. Its kinda like this:

Amazon.com = US
Amazon.ca = Canads

Just order it from the Amazon that represents you, assuming you're issue is not with the Canadian Amazon.

The strange thing is, the rest of my order with amazon.com is fine : Idle Hands, Creepshow 2, Mouth of Madness....


Amazon.ca doesn't have these titles available for pre-order yet. It has also been my experience that Amazon.com usually sells them for less.

[jeepersitsthecreeper]

and why even pretend PSYCHO II AND III are Collector Editions when they are not!!!
no new art means NOT A COLLECTORS EDITION!!

[cropsy]

Originally Posted by jeepersitsthecreeper

THIS IS A NICHE MARKET.... THESE FILMS ARE NOT BLOCKBUSTERS!!
NO ONE WANTS THEM EXCEPT FANS.....

and they just lost about a quarter of them....

Think of how many people bought these internationally, goodbye money.
HELLO ANCHOR BAY 2!

Too true.if scream/shout have been forced to do this i bet they're gutted.they must shift alot of units internationally.could see this seriously affecting their profit margins.which in turn may affect future releases i.e. how much they would pay for licenses.

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by rickah88

But your quote and what you are saying are two different things. US/North America.

It would be different if Amazon said: "Only ships within North America" then didn't ship to Canada.
Technically, by what you typed, Amazon is doing exactly what they said they are doing: ONLY shipping to the US.

???

What I quoted and what I'm saying are exactly the same.

Cliff said (as does the Scream Website) that they have North american rights and Scream itself ships to Canada and the U.S.

Amazon say that they will only ship to the U.S. That exactly what I quoted and exactly what I typed.


That's the problem...it doesn't make sense. If Scream has (by their own account) rights for both the U.S. and Canada, then it makes no sense that amazon won't ship outside of the U.S.

That's what I said in my first post.

Clearly, something is wrong and that calls this whole thing into question. If Scream can legally ship it's own product to Canada and (based on Cliff's comments) it has not instructed amazon to restrict shipping, something is amiss. How did amazon decide not to ship to a place that is legally entitled to receive the product?

It just doesn't add up.

[duggie walker]

I can't believe there's any legal requirement for thm to restrict sales outside North America. What the hell is region-coding for? Has some new law has been passed or have I been importing discs illegally for the last 20 years?

If this seriously is Shout's policy then they can shove it. I guess I'll jump through hoops and pay extra for a select few discs but there'll be no more blind-buys or double-dips for me from now on.

I'm hardly surprised the disc-retail business is going down the tubes with this kind of draconian policy. In the UK we just keep getting hit by bad news: decent importers like planetaxel going bust, import duty levels getting tightened, the guernsey loophole being closed with the subsequent loss of several good retailers and the related rise in prices due to an absence of competition.

What's most worrying is whether all the other companies are going to start following suit. What if we couldn't import Criterions? Or WB product (as they don't seem to be much interested in the UK). This is seriously crappy news.

cmac, if this is true, I hope you'll report back the storm of disgust you're about to weather.

[rdodolak]

I would agree that the whole mess about Amazon.com not shipping to Canada is messed up and doesn't make sense. However, if multiple retailers (another poster has stated similar statements from ImportCds), that have no relation to one another, are pointing to specific instructions received from SF then I'd say that's where the blame may lie.

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

But it looks like anybody can still order from Amazon.ca.

SWAMP THING

Amazon.ca....$26.99

Amazon.com...$18.99

[pedromc69]

Yeah im in Canada i order from Amazon.ca there usually a little more expensive but worth it. I hope the price doesn't go up more that would suck.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

I can't believe there's any legal requirement for thm to restrict sales outside North America. What the hell is region-coding for? Has some new law has been passed or have I been importing discs illegally for the last 20 years?

Region coding only slows the flow of goods between regions it isn't meant to enforce rights. Look at Europe for example, all of the European countries are in one Region but it's not uncommon for different studios to have the rights, or licenses, to a film in different European countries. So, Studio A may have the rights (license) to release a film in Germany, Studio B has the rights (license) to release the film in the UK, Studio C in Italy, etc.; all of which are in Region B.

[Thomas Veil]

The annoying thing about Amazon is that they allow numerous sales of illegal copied versions of movies to be sold but then they crack down on this.

I don't think getting mad at Shout does anything or is fair..obviously they rode it out as long as they could as far as selling outside the US or North America (whichever will be clarified I would imagine) when they had deals.

Also, obviously they don't want to lose sales so not like they want this. I want them to stay in business and I'm sure you do too so if thats the deal thats the deal. If they piss off the companies that have the movies they will never get rights to anything so they do what they have to do. Find other ways if you can to buy them there is always a way not to mention Second Sight has similar titles and in some cases the same.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by IAmIronMan123

its already been said that listings for any shout factory title on an amazon that isnt us will be removed eventually and the smaller online stores are also not allowed to sell them either

you do know that they have separate releases in Canada with Canadian ratings on the back and are sold in-store in CANADA! so, you obviously missed my point.

Stores in Canada sell them too, so it would only make sense that Amazon.ca also would continue selling them.

Granted, just because it makes sense, doesn't mean it is so.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

Here's a problems as it relates to amazon.com and Scream/Shout titles.

This is now what amazon.com says on most Scream/Shout titles:

"Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. and to APO/FPO addresses.

Do you see a problem?

If you're Canadian, you do. Canada is part of North America (actually we're MOST of North America ).

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

???

What I quoted and what I'm saying are exactly the same.

Cliff said (as does the Scream Website) that they have North american rights and Scream itself ships to Canada and the U.S.

Amazon say that they will only ship to the U.S. That exactly what I quoted and exactly what I typed.


That's the problem...it doesn't make sense. If Scream has (by their own account) rights for both the U.S. and Canada, then it makes no sense that amazon won't ship outside of the U.S.

That's what I said in my first post.

Clearly, something is wrong and that calls this whole thing into question. If Scream can legally ship it's own product to Canada and (based on Cliff's comments) it has not instructed amazon to restrict shipping, something is amiss. How did amazon decide not to ship to a place that is legally entitled to receive the product?

It just doesn't add up.

In your first post, you said: "only ships to the US", but then you later say North America. Again, you are mixing the two together. If Amazon only ships(SF product) to the US, then they are correct. You quote it as the US, then later say North America. That's all I was trying to point out.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you(and everyone else) that something doesn't seem right here. Hopefully Cliff can add his 2cents worth here.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

SWAMP THING

Amazon.ca....$26.99

Amazon.com...$18.99

Best Buy US has free shipping, I think Canadian BB does too, so you could order from them, keep your shipping cost and make it about even. And BB US tends to be cheaper too, around 20 bucks or less if you preorder. They have sales a lot too...

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

Best Buy US has free shipping, I think Canadian BB does too, so you could order from them, keep your shipping cost and make it about even. And BB US tends to be cheaper too, around 20 bucks or less if you preorder. They have sales a lot too...

The funny thing with BBY is that BBY US will only ship within the US, BBY CA only within CA, and BBY MX only within Mexico.