Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[redrunner97]

This is all inaccurate.

1) Curtians and Prom Night did not come from Echo Bridge, they were sublicensed by Synapse from Simcom, presumably Synapse has a deal with them for the blu-ray/combo rights, while Echo Bridge retains temporary DVD rights.

2) Echo Bridge couldn't license out any of the Halloween movies or other Miramax properties to Shout, because Miramax would be the ones to do that, and since they already split their catalog between Lionsgate and Echo Bridge, I don't see this being possible. It'd be like Shout licensing out Halloween II to Severin, impossible because they don't own it. Echo Bridge doesn't own anything that you all have mentioned.

I guess anythings possible though, but I wouldn't expect much. Their two goodies are already with Synapse. (Which I will state again, came from SimCom, not Echo Bridge like everyone has been saying in multiple threads)

[tylergfoster]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

This is all inaccurate.

1) Curtains and Prom Night did not come from Echo Bridge...

2) Echo Bridge couldn't license out any of the Halloween movies or other Miramax properties to Shout, because Miramax would be the ones to do that, and since they already split their catalog between Lionsgate and Echo Bridge, I don't see this being possible...

Well, although his quote was in a thread relating to Curtains and Prom Night, he isn't actually claiming that, he's just mentioning that at some point he was talking to EB about something and learned they were in talks with Shout.

As for your second and more important point, I was under the impression that Miramax, which is about as much of a company now as New Line, actually sold the library to Echo Bridge.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by tylergfoster

Well, although his quote was in a thread relating to Curtains and Prom Night, he isn't actually claiming that, he's just mentioning that at some point he was talking to EB about something and learned they were in talks with Shout.

As for your second and more important point, I was under the impression that Miramax, which is about as much of a company now as New Line, actually sold the library to Echo Bridge.

Miramax still exists, the rights aren't "permanently" with Echo Bridge, but they do have a long-term deal to distribute a huge chunk of their catalog, but they don't own the films. That's why you see that miramax's logo is present on all of their and Lionsgate's releases, and you also see the Miramax logo on international releases of their films as well.

The limitations of their deal, I have no clue. They may be able to license them out, but who knows.
Better to assume not, which is the most likely answer, than to get our hopes up over nothing.

[risky1975]

Originally Posted by zbinks

I'm guessing risky1975 was referring to a Blu-Ray edition of the theatrical cut which is not yet available anywhere.

yea.... i got the fist dvd that came out years ago!..and i def gonna get the cabal cut.. never seen it, excited to. i was just hoping the theatrical cut get's a blu release

[tylergfoster]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

Better to assume not, which is the most likely answer, than to get our hopes up over nothing.

Well, how about this: does Echo Bridge OWN anything Shout! would be interested in other than Miramax / Dimension titles?

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by tylergfoster

Well, how about this: does Echo Bridge OWN anything Shout! would be interested in other than Miramax / Dimension titles?

I'm not sure they own much.

I know non-miramax titles they have I would like to see are:
WACKO (my #1)
The Willies
Howling: the original nightmare
Ghoulies 4
Scarecrow Trilogy
Killjoy Films
Mortuary
Legend of Boggy Creek
Class of 1989 II
Clive Barker's Dread
Clive Barker's Books of Blood
Cybertraker / Cybertraker 2

Doubt that they actually "own" any of these, but they would be nice releases from someone, someday...

[redrunner97]

Interesting note:

Echo Bridge lists EVERY original Prom Night movie on their site.
[Prom Night / Prom Night 2 / Prom Night 3 / Prom Night IV]

http://www.echobridgeentertainment.c...current_page=4

So I'm guessing the rights to the rest of the series reverted back to SimCom, just as Prom Night 2 did earlier this year, and Echo Bridge now has DVD rights, but Synapse has already proven the blu-ray rights are separate.

[redrunner97]

Other than being SimCom films, I noticed the film cans say SimCom on them, and in the FaceBook comment about Prom Night 2 he doesn't correct the poster who mentions SimCom, but he also doesn't say that they were from them either. Maybe someone could where he got them on facebook, since there are a couple possibilities??

EDIT:
And Alliance did release the Prom Night Collection in Canada.

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by zbinks

Actually, Synapse mentioned under one of their Facebook posts that they were planning DVDs as well as Blu-Rays.

I just assumed they would be combo packs.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

I thought Cliff had said relatively recently and (as I recall) rather definitively that they wouldn't be doing any made-for-TV on BD.

He shot them down in response to a post I'd made about the TV movie market being severely underrepresented on DVD by saying they wouldn't sell. Obviously they changed their minds and decided to test the waters with 2 titles. I hope they're popular enough to move more than just a few copies so that by the time they get to the really good stuff they'll keep releasing them. As a side note, I'll never take a denial seriously again

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by zbinks

Probably, but as we've seen with some of the Scream Factory releases, you still need to secure both Blu-Ray and DVD rights in order to release a combo pack.

The Blue Underground releases of Maniac Cop II and Maniac Cop III will be combo packs, but the current dvd editions will stay in print, and Bill even said he only has blu-ray rights, but that he could do a combo pack as long as he didn't issue the dvd separately, and still be within his rights.

Deals can be complex for a number of reasons.
But I do think the Scream Factory scenario is the most common and accurate.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by cine74

He shot them down in response to a post I'd made about the TV movie market being severely underrepresented on DVD by saying they wouldn't sell. Obviously they changed their minds and decided to test the waters with 2 titles. I hope they're popular enough to move more than just a few copies so that by the time they get to the really good stuff they'll keep releasing them. As a side note, I'll never take a denial seriously again

But they're going to be DVD-only, and, at best, if sales are robust enough, we may see more DVD releases of TV movies, but still no BDs.

[Seymour]

Originally Posted by zbinks

I don't think they own Dust Devil, but that'd make a pretty interesting Scream Factory title.

It appears that Dust Devil was part of the Miramax deal, since EB put the Miramax name on the cover of the dvd.

[spawningblue]

Announcements were pretty disappointing for me, especially with all the build up. I'm sure Scream will still deliver the goods in 2014 but I was hoping this con would get me excited for next year and I can't say it did.

Assault on Precinct 13 - this is the big one for me since I was looking to buy it Fri. to complete my Carpenter on Blu collection only to find out it is OOP a selling for min. $50. Hopefully it includes all the previous extras. I could see this announcement being a disappointment for those who own the previous release though.

Darkman - this movie is in need of a special edition but its still not that exciting, and personally when I watched it last year I feel it didn't hold up very well. It would be more enticing if it was the whole trilogy so I could replace all my DVDs.

Nightbreed: Cabal Cut - this is probably the big one. But since we already knew this was coming and it probably won't include the theatrical cut.

Cat People (Remake) - I haven't seen this and the trailer didn't do much for me but it seems to be getting a lot of praise on here so I'll definitely give it a chance.

Saturn 3 and Eve of Destruction - can't say I'm excited about these two. Like all Scream releases I'll stick pick them up and give them a chance.

TV double feature - these titles aren't titles I hear too many people clamouring for, but the promise of more if they sell well is the most exciting announcement to me. We need Midnight Hour released! Although I would prefer it it was released on Blu since it already exists on DVD even though its OOP and ridiculously expensive!

Either way not the most exciting announcements, but we all know Scream has lots more to deliver so its not a big deal. Scream still rocks!

[BillWatkins]

Echo Bridge also has The Reflecting Skin via Miramax. They released it as a P&S DVD so a Scream Factory release would be a revelation.

[Kap6289]

From Scream Factory's Facebook page...

**NEW KEY ART REVEAL!**

Check out the newly-designed key art for our upcoming Blu-ray Collector's Edition of John Carpenter's ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13, nicely illustrated by artist James Rheem Davis.

As most of you already knpw, we just announced this release last week at Comic Con and is planned for November. No additional info on our new extras at this time.

[Metallix87]

Wow, that artwork looks amazing!

[tylergfoster]

I am always the least impressed by Shout's new artwork but that is just fantastic. Oh, man, I like it so much.

[cmac]

Originally Posted by tylergfoster

According to a friend that reads the Latarnia forums, Bill Olsen made an offhanded reference (in regards to their deal for Prom Night and Curtains) that Echo Bridge is considering licensing some things to Shout! Factory.

If that turns out to be true...I bet that will "make up" for the SDCC announcements.

EDIT:



http://thelatarniaforums.yuku.com/to...2#.UeuA0W3hBD5

Not true

[tylergfoster]

Originally Posted by cmac

Not true

Ah, drat.