SF have just mentioned on facebook that if a deal closes in time they maybe announcing a title at their Halloween 35th Anniversary panel next week !
If I had to make a bet, I'd say there aiming for a "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers" Producer's Cut release similar to their upcoming Cabal Cut of "Nightbreed". Now, that would be one phenomenal to end 2013 with a bang!
If I had to make a bet, I'd say there aiming for a "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers" Producer's Cut release similar to their upcoming Cabal Cut of "Nightbreed". Now, that would be one phenomenal to end 2013 with a bang!
You might be onto someting. A pristine print was supposed to have been screened at the New Beverly Cinema in LA a couple weeks ago.
That's exactly where my hunch was coming from Let's hope this "deal" closes so we can have some fun stuff to look forward to next week. Bummed I can't make it to this year's show, I attended the 25th Anniversary show. Geez, can't believe that was 10 years ago already! If I was going, you could have bet there would have been a new interview with Cliff and Jeff.
That's exactly where my hunch was coming from Let's hope this "deal" closes so we can have some fun stuff to look forward to next week.
Fingers crossed. No whammy, no whammy.
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I thought they had more than the one title here / one title there for 2014, that they had 40 ??
Am I incorrect ?
I wonder if we may have misinterpreted what they meant when they said they were planning to release 4 titles a month next year. Maybe they meant that they're planning to acquire enough titles to fill their 2014 slate at a pace of 4 titles/month, not that they already have acquired all those titles.
I wonder if we may have misinterpreted what they meant when they said they were planning to release 4 titles a month next year. Maybe they meant that they're planning to acquire enough titles to fill their 2014 slate at a pace of 4 titles/month, not that they already have acquired all those titles.
I'm not sure but I think the 4-5 titles per month is accurate. After all, December ends the year with 5 films over 4 releases (the "TV Terror" DVD set is 2 films) and January kicks off with 4 titles over 3 releases ("The Neanderthal Man" Blu-ray double bill). In addition, February has 5 films over 4 releases ("Bad Dreams" & "Visiting Hours" on the Blu-ray double bill) so it seems Scream is definitely making good on the 4-5 titles per month plan so far.
Wow, this would be one of those "hell froze over" moments in home video.
Similar to The Cabal Cut, no one has ever had much faith that the Producer's Cut of "Halloween 6" would ever make it to an actual home video release. It's been one of the most bootlegged titles for years due to its unavailability. But, hopefully that can all change
If Scream did manage to somehow get the licensing rights to H6 if that could open the door for H20 and other Dimension films. I know currently Echo Bridge has the rights to the Dimension Halloween films, but perhaps since this cut is unreleased and completely different they were able to make a deal directly with Miramax without having to worry about Echo Bridge? I wonder how long Echo Bridge has the license for these titles?
This would be a really big deal if it comes to pass.
If I had to make a bet, I'd say there aiming for a "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers" Producer's Cut release similar to their upcoming Cabal Cut of "Nightbreed". Now, that would be one phenomenal to end 2013 with a bang!
If Scream did manage to somehow get the licensing rights to H6 if that could open the door for H20 and other Dimension films. I know currently Echo Bridge has the rights to the Dimension Halloween films, but perhaps since this cut is unreleased and completely different they were able to make a deal directly with Miramax without having to worry about Echo Bridge?
Releasing H6 PD wouldn't have anything to do with the other Halloween films. Like with Nightbreed, the addition of the extra footage and it being under a different name gives them some legal wiggle room to release it without Echo Bridge being legally able to stop it.
This also makes me wonder about the deleted/alternate scenes that were found for the original Halloween film a few years ago. Could that be a possibility for an announcement? For those who don't know about the found footage.....
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Exclusive: HALLOWEEN: The Lost Footage
Thursday, June 11, 2009 09:57 AM Michael Gingold
After more than 30 years, a couple of different editions and a number of VHS/DVD releases, HALLOWEEN fans may think they’ve seen it all when it comes to John Carpenter’s 1978 horror classic. But in 2006, word came down that a trove of unused negatives from the movie, including outtakes and deleted scenes, had been discovered. Now, Don May Jr. of DVD company Synapse Films, which obtained the 45,000 feet of material, has given Fango an exclusive update and images (see them below) from this footage.
“I know the fans have been waiting for more news from either myself or the purchaser, Billy J. Kirkus, but we really had nothing to report for a while,” May says. “Our original attempts to work with Malek Akkad [son of the late Moustapha Akkad, who now oversees the HALLOWEEN franchise] and Anchor Bay Entertainment went nowhere. It’s a shame, really, because we seem to have every single unused take from the film in our possession. It’s all original camera negative. We know that Malek is an extremely busy man who has taken over his late father’s legacy. I’m sure he’s got other things on his mind, but the fans should really see this stuff.”
Since their discussions with Akkad and Anchor Bay fell through, May and Kirkus have attempted to contact others involved with HALLOWEEN. “All we want is to transfer off and archive this material for the future,” May says. “We want to use it in some sort of documentary. In the small amount of footage I have actually viewed [so far], there is amazing stuff that the fans would love to see. The problem is that it’s such a vast amount of negative that we can’t afford to transfer it all off ourselves. We just don’t have the funds to do that without help. We need someone to come forward and help us archive this material.”
The first call was made to the film’s production designer/editor Tommy Lee Wallace, who provided May some insight into what to seek out amidst the miles of footage. “He told me about some alternate takes to look for, and told me a few great stories. He mentioned the scene where Laurie looks out the window and sees Michael Myers staring up at her in the clotheslines. Evidently, Carpenter completely reshot that sequence and approached it differently. We found the footage of the original takes, though, so we have the initial version.”
Most intriguingly, Wallace revealed that HALLOWEEN’s original ending was completely different from the one that gave nightmares to generations of viewers. “He told me Michael died,” and stayed dead, May says, “and the supposed script that people get on-line or at conventions is not what they originally used. They didn’t decide to let Michael live until after they finished principal photography and went back for some reshoots. We’ll have to look and see what we have in regards to this.”
More recently, Kirkus was finally able to speak to Carpenter about his find. “He was amazed that it was still around,” Kirkus says. “He thought it had all been destroyed long ago, and was excited at the prospect of seeing it again. He asked us to make him a sample of a couple reels so he could take a look. There’s a chance he could come on board and help Don and I get this out for the fans to see it.
“There was one specific outtake he hoped we’d find, and we did,” Kirkus continues. “While we were shooting the ending where [Michael actor] Nick Castle is lying in the grass after falling off the balcony, Castle would get up and clown around as ‘The Shape.’ Carpenter mentioned a funny shot of Castle getting up and doing a little dance in the costume [first photo above]. Castle also does a little ‘epileptic’ thing, too, during one of the takes while on his back. It’s pretty funny. We also have footage of assistants getting him comfortable on the ground and prepping for the shot.”
Carpenter’s interest in checking out the clips himself led May to transfer a few reels for the director. “All the takes and unused scenes are marked with shot numbers, so it was easy to find specific things using a lined script,” May explains. “Over Memorial Day weekend, I enlisted the help of our friend Jim Chandler to literally go through every box and every can of film. Together, we set aside the material we eventually wanted to review. I did grab a couple of things for Carpenter that I thought he’d like to see, though.
“It was a thrill to see some of this footage that no one has looked at in over 30 years,” May continues. The first thing they found was the Castle/Shape “dance” sequence. “Since Carpenter brought this up, we decided to at least get this to him. I can’t wait to hear his reaction, and I can’t even imagine the countless treasures that await us when we can really dive into this stuff.”
Another of May’s noteworthy discoveries was an alternate version of the famous single-take shot that opens HALLOWEEN, taking young Michael’s point of view as he enters his house and goes upstairs to kill his sister, stopping to put a clown mask over his face/the lens. “It’s interesting in many ways, since this take is such a long one,” May notes. “It starts outside the house and goes all the way into the kitchen, up the stairs and stops right on the sister’s face. Right away, I noticed that it was lengthier; the camera lingered more in this unused take than it did in the one used in the finished film. Also, when Michael peeks in and sees his sister and her boyfriend on the couch, I couldn’t help but notice that the boyfriend actually unbuttons the sister’s blouse and cops a feel [pictured above]. That wasn’t in the finished film! Also, there was a huge camera shadow on the wall as he approaches the stairs.
“But the most amazing thing is that the optical of the ‘mask’ is not on this footage,” he continues. “You see the hand moving up to the camera lens to ‘put on’ the mask and a black sheet of cardboard goes up and pulls away, but there’s no mask. That was added later in post, but the take we have shows him go into his sister’s room without the mask filter over the picture. You can clearly see actress Sandy Johnson very nude, as we look through Michael’s eyes as he peers around the room.
The discoveries also included more tangential material pertaining to the HALLOWEEN shoot. “I grabbed another larger reel marked ‘TEST,’ just to see what it was,” May recalls. “I took a look at the head and saw a person standing outdoors, and thought maybe it was John Carpenter. We put it up, and discovered that it was a Panaglide [a Steadicam-like rig used extensively on the film] test. It was a camera operator playing with it, swooping around and smoothly traveling up and down stairs and through hallways while tracking various people. I’m not sure where this was done, but it appears to have been filmed in the Panavision offices, because there are a lot of people working at desks and tables full of Panavision camera-related equipment when they travel through the building.”
Yet another eyebrow-raiser they discovered was the old jack-o’-lantern footage used to create HALLOWEEN’s opening-credits sequence. “We found a few different takes of the candle-lit pumpkin in front of a black background, with the camera slowly moving in,” May says. “We’ll take a closer look at these takes eventually, and see if they differ from the finished film.”
But will any of this footage ever be seen by the fans? “I honestly don’t know,“ May says. “I hope so, but whether or not that happens isn’t really up to us. Carpenter is interested, and was very open to the possibility of helping us with some sort of documentary. Perhaps all this will see the light of day at some point with his help. There’s hours of material to go through, and it’s going to be an expensive, time-consuming task to look at all this stuff, but we’re up to it if Carpenter is. Since the original mention on Fangoria.com a few years ago, I get e-mails all the time asking about it. Carpenter is interested, so maybe, if the fans let Malek Akkad know how they feel on his site [http://www.halloweenmovies.com[/url], he’ll give us a call back, too! I’m ready to jump into transferring the rest of it as soon as I’m able to. HALLOWEEN is one of the greatest horror films of all time, so over 30 years later, why not let the fans have a peek at the ‘unseen’ HALLOWEEN?”
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Releasing H6 PD wouldn't have anything to do with the other Halloween films. Like with Nightbreed, the addition of the extra footage and it being under a different name gives them some legal wiggle room to release it without Echo Bridge being legally able to stop it.
This also makes me wonder about the deleted/alternate scenes that were found for the original Halloween film a few years ago. Could that be a possibility for an announcement? For those who don't know about the found footage.....
There was some discussion about this in the 35th Anniversary Blu-Ray thread a few months ago, and as I recall two parties must come to an agreement before anything can happen with that footage.
Billy J. Kirkus owns the negatives, but has no distribution rights to it.
Trancas International owns the distribution rights, but not the footage.
Unfortunately, the two sides seemed to be far, far apart as recently as a few months ago. Trancas apparently offered a bulk rate that would be less than the value of film stock the alone.