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Old 03-21-2014, 08:31 PM   #3001
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From a Chief Technology Officer of Disney, regarding Ultra HD, see #3…“The hard part is creating a color camera that’s …. able to go up to 2020. It’s about color space.” on his exploring list -
http://www.cablefax.com/cfp/just_in/...ine_62593.html

Answer from Penton-Man……
Currently, Sony’s F65/55 cameras’ S-Gamut is the closest fit to 2020.
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:45 PM   #3002
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El Clásico in 4K.

No, I’m not referring to the I.S.D.T. segment in On Any Sunday, the one event which Malcolm Smith takes very seriously… I’m talkin football this time -
http://advanced-television.com/2014/...-transmission/
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:05 PM   #3003
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https://petergabriel.com/news/tumblr...back-to-front/


For those UK-ers who missed the 3/20 showings, there are some showings tomorrow, 3/23, or, as you folks like to write it, 23/3 (4K presentations are at selected locations with 4K projectors, so best check with your local cinema)….
http://www.petergabrielbacktofront.c...-kingdom/c1jhv
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:13 PM   #3004
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The last HEVC meeting in the development of 10-bit to 16-bit profiles will start later this week and apparently Movielabs did not propose anything related to YDzDx. I guess the problems caused when combining chroma subsampling, a different white point, and a perceptual gamma curve proved more difficult than expected. The main proposals made by Movielabs was to allow for the 2.6 gamma curve, which is used by digital movies, and to allow for limited range video encoding with the XYZ color space (I guess they are trying to appeal to TV broadcasters). Also several proposals on color mapping have been made including a proposal that allows for color mapping from wide color gamut video to HDTVs.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:25 PM   #3005
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Dang Chelsea - http://www.theguardian.com/football/...e-match-report

Well Steed, after the 3rd goal, football night for us quickly turned into Blu-ray movie night as I fast forwarded (x5) the rest of the match in order to maintain mental sanity.

Geoff, payback time for their shirt sponsor. Go at it - http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-...ews-18510.html
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:38 PM   #3006
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That Peter Gabriel trailer looks fantastic. I demand 4KBD on the basis of that concert alone.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:39 PM   #3007
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The last HEVC meeting in the development of 10-bit to 16-bit profiles will start later this week and apparently Movielabs did not propose anything related to YDzDx. I guess the problems caused when combining chroma subsampling, a different white point, and a perceptual gamma curve proved more difficult than expected. The main proposals made by Movielabs was to allow for the 2.6 gamma curve, which is used by digital movies, and to allow for limited range video encoding with the XYZ color space (I guess they are trying to appeal to TV broadcasters). Also several proposals on color mapping have been made including a proposal that allows for color mapping from wide color gamut video to HDTVs.
Cutting edge info Richard, cutting edge . Those boys from Rennes seem to be always producing.

Do you follow the mpeg investigators with regards to their discussions on wide color gamut (N14162) as well? http://lists.uni-klu.ac.at/mailman/listinfo/xyz

More work to be done as you’ll note that also on the SMPTE side, the project is already behind its intended completion date - https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=200 as the situation is complex.

Nevertheless, for the sake of simplifying one aspect to all readers, YDzDx for chroma subsampling is a worthwhile endeavor of study because HDMI 2.0 is bandwidth challenged to carry 4:4:4 4K/60p at greater than 8 bit bit depth as was declared (with remorse) to my buddy Saprano - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...no#post7907163
P.S. Thinking back on it, unequivocally declared over a month ^ before even the general specs were announced…. http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/04/h...channel-audio/

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Old 03-23-2014, 07:45 PM   #3008
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That's the spirit!
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:17 PM   #3009
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Dang Chelsea - http://www.theguardian.com/football/...e-match-report

Well Steed, after the 3rd goal, football night for us quickly turned into Blu-ray movie night as I fast forwarded (x5) the rest of the match in order to maintain mental sanity.

Geoff, payback time for their shirt sponsor. Go at it - http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-...ews-18510.html
Ssh, I don't want to rile Chelsea too much because they'll destroy Palace next week. We were damned unlucky to get nothing from the Newcastle match though.
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Old 03-23-2014, 10:40 PM   #3010
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Ssh, I don't want to rile Chelsea too much because they'll destroy Palace next week. We were damned unlucky to get nothing from the Newcastle match though.
Geoff, you guys are safe. Trust me, Sunderland will not be overtaking you. I think Fullham and Cardiff are gone. Honestly think you are safe although it breaks my heart to admit we are down. Completely toothless and we deserve to be relegated. The fans though, well it's far from what we deserve. Over 40,000 for the palace home game and look what happened.
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Old 03-23-2014, 10:45 PM   #3011
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Dang Chelsea - http://www.theguardian.com/football/...e-match-report

Well Steed, after the 3rd goal, football night for us quickly turned into Blu-ray movie night as I fast forwarded (x5) the rest of the match in order to maintain mental sanity.

Geoff, payback time for their shirt sponsor. Go at it - http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-...ews-18510.html
Well, the decision to play the reserves in that cup quarter final is looking more stupid by the week. Talk about killing off a teams season and morale. Thanks Gus!
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:59 AM   #3012
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It ain't over 'til it's over...
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It ain't over 'til it's over...
We will not get out of bottom 3 mate. Honestly, at least not when it counts at end of season. We are ghastly and easilly worst team in league including Fullham.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:26 PM   #3014
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Ssh,...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1583421/...ef_=tt_dt_spec
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816711/...ef_=tt_dt_spec
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2193215/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

Let’s see how well the content providers’ after-the-DI-fact upscaling solution works on the ^ above flicks, esp. with handling the grain in the 500T 35mm source used for G.I. Joe.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:32 PM   #3015
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Well, the decision to play the reserves in that cup quarter final is looking more stupid by the week. Talk about killing off a teams season and morale. Thanks Gus!
I’m wondering if after this Prem season is over, Arsene W. leaves Arsenal for Barcelona after that excruciating defeat…feeling it’s time for a change and also to prove if he had access to as much money to play with as does Jose, that he would not be an alleged “specialist in failure”….. http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ialist-failure
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I’m wondering if after this Prem season is over, Arsene W. leaves Arsenal for Barcelona after that excruciating defeat…feeling it’s time for a change and also to prove if he had access to as much money to play with as does Jose, that he would not be an alleged “specialist in failure”….. http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ialist-failure
He is welcome at Sunderland!
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Old 03-25-2014, 03:06 AM   #3017
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More work to be done as you’ll note that also on the SMPTE side, the project is already behind its intended completion date - https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=200 as the situation is complex.

Nevertheless, for the sake of simplifying one aspect to all readers, YDzDx for chroma subsampling is a worthwhile endeavor of study because HDMI 2.0 is bandwidth challenged to carry 4:4:4 4K/60p at greater than 8 bit bit depth as was declared (with remorse) to my buddy Saprano - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...no#post7907163
YDzDx would help with compression but how would it benefit HDMI 2.0? YDzDx would require a new version of HDMI and even if consumer video was released using YDzDx it would be cheaper to convert it to the Rec. 2020 color space before sending it to the display. That would keep costs down and it would have no negatives for a very long time.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:45 PM   #3018
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1583421/...ef_=tt_dt_spec
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816711/...ef_=tt_dt_spec
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2193215/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

Let’s see how well the content providers’ after-the-DI-fact upscaling solution works on the ^ above flicks, esp. with handling the grain in the 500T 35mm source used for G.I. Joe.
So they'll definitely be upscales then? I honestly didn't think that Samsung had so much clout that they could get these movies finished at 4K, so upscales they shall be.

Still, the fact that Musuem and XO:Wolverine are 4K and those other three brand-new blockbusters are not, shows how far 4K finishes have to go before gaining widespread acceptance. Or perhaps its simply the trend for 3D that's doing the damage; a 4K pipeline is costly enough, but doing one for each eye is too much of a strain on the ol' wallet. (Which is of course what warded off Pete Jackson from finishing his Hobbit movies at 4K).
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:14 PM   #3019
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He is welcome at Sunderland!
I have El Clásico (http://www.tvbeurope.com/theworkflow...1#.UzGyyvldWSo) recorded (in provincial resolution….something is better than nothing) which I haven’t watched yet but, I hope will be a vehicle to a pleasant state of football mind with regards to entertaining competitive soccer….rather than slaughter like the Chelsea v. Arsenal fiasco.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:17 PM   #3020
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YDzDx would help with compression but how would it benefit HDMI 2.0?
Yes, in retrospect, I should have typed HDMI 2.x
I see us achieving YDzDx before 8K movie releases.
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