HDR Discussion Thread

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

b.t.w., there is a tie-in between this (the structure, not the pole) –

Are you trying to tell me there's more than a pole in that pic?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Are you trying to tell me there's more than a pole in that pic?

As a grateful memento from the Top Gun: Maverick production, on the inside, a couple of patches stapled to a ceiling beam, or in your vernacular, to a horizontal supporting pole.



P.S.
I think by now y’all appreciate the significance of the camera crew, but just as key, arguably more so because they’re like the horse before the cart, are the LMs and their crew -

2019 LMGI Awards - Celebrating Excellence on Location Worldwide - YouTube

It can get complicated as to making the best choice for land and air –
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post16852642
locations.

[Penton-Man]

ASC feature film nominees - https://theasc.com/news/asc-announce...-film-nominees
If memory serves, all also have Dolby Vision bona fides.

[Penton-Man]

Heads-up freelancers in/around the big apple, training includes DV Version 4.0 – https://www.colour.training/events/d...-mastering-ny/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

The cameramen did an excellent sync job.

Yeah, he or she also quickly caught Amy P. bending over to thank Quentin T. while seated at his table next to Tom Rothman that I’d bet some longtime power players at Sony Pictures and Sony Corp. felt awkward about.

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

What did you think of Joaquin's speech (two video clips, unedited, bleeps-free) ...
• https://mobile.twitter.com/thouflowe...-acceptance%2F

On the one hand, he is apparently very civically engaged and environmentally conscious which to me are BIG pluses . On the other hand , if I’d been in the room at the Bev Hilton I’d say that portion of his speech was unnecessarily ‘colorful’ by his use of 4 letter words to an audience of peers/colleagues which I think resulted in it being counterproductive to the serious points he was trying to make.

Believe me, I use my fair share of 4 letter words like when privately with my wife or at most publicly in a group of two or three good friends whom I’ve personally known for years during times of duress like at the moment of crashing and dislocating my finger, but never felt the need as an adult in my 40’s to legitimize the importance of my comments to a bunch of people I didn’t know well by using language at a formal dinner/celebration that some attendees might well find offensive. You may say, well, but Ricky did the same and likely worse during his monologue….. however, that was different in that Ricky was the HFPA appointed court jester, self-proclaimed at that; whereas Joaquin, even as a single practitioner, is a representative of the acting profession.

All that said, I think his performance in The Joker was superb and he is/or should be the leading contender for the Oscar in that category.

P.S.
Note – Scottishguy had the courtesy to use an asterisk in the follow-up post to you, even Geoff D too on the last post I read and responded to on the CES thread.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's only because the site auto-censors it, I'd curse all the goddamned time if I could. Yeah I'm uncouth but I'm from South London.

No problem with that if nobody around you is offended by your language or behavior, whatever it may be, cursing, not bathing, etc. The point is some people should care about others’ feelings and not be so self-absorbed. It’s a matter of empathy and discipline - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post15768153

[Penton-Man]

heads-up career minded folks, some good opportunities here - https://jobs.disneycareers.com/profe...hips?cid=19339

[Penton-Man]

wabo, you making the trek over to Levi stadium this saturday, they say dem 99er fans are amped up

[Penton-Man]

received a PM from someone informing me that the calibrator guy light illusion is going thru the trouble of posting on multiple twitter websites disparaging the launch of Dolby Vision IQ for not abiding by the PQ standard (ST. 2094-10 resulting in inaccuracy.

nevertheless, sometimes it is worthwhile to “break” the standard when operating under less than ideal conditions be it extrinsic (ambient light environment) or intrinsic (compromised TVs), e.g. from a member of the ICDM HDR WG –

“an ideal display should follow the PQ curve as accurately as possible. Displays with significant compromises in peak brightness or dynamic range shall apply tone mapping, where a pleasing image is more important than following the PQ curve.”
https://www.displaydaily.com/article...w-the-pq-curve

[Penton-Man]

received a PM from someone informing me that the calibrator guy light illusion is going thru the trouble of posting on multiple twitter websites disparaging the launch of Dolby Vision IQ for not abiding by the PQ standard (ST. 2094-10 ) resulting in inaccuracy.

nevertheless, sometimes it is worthwhile to “break” the standard when operating under less than ideal conditions be it extrinsic (ambient light environment) or intrinsic (compromised TVs), e.g. from a member of the ICDM HDR WG –
“an ideal display should follow the PQ curve as accurately as possible. Displays with significant compromises in peak brightness or dynamic range shall apply tone mapping, where a pleasing image is more important than following the PQ curve.”
https://www.displaydaily.com/article...w-the-pq-curve

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

received a PM from someone informing me that the calibrator guy light illusion is going thru the trouble of posting on multiple twitter websites disparaging the launch of Dolby Vision IQ for not abiding by the PQ standard (ST. 2094-10 ) resulting in inaccuracy.

nevertheless, sometimes it is worthwhile to “break” the standard when operating under less than ideal conditions be it extrinsic (ambient light environment) or intrinsic (compromised TVs), e.g. from a member of the ICDM HDR WG –
“an ideal display should follow the PQ curve as accurately as possible. Displays with significant compromises in peak brightness or dynamic range shall apply tone mapping, where a pleasing image is more important than following the PQ curve.”
https://www.displaydaily.com/article...w-the-pq-curve

I haven't read his missives as I'm not on the twatter, but I agree with him in principal as you know: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=242. As much as wanting an 'equivalent' dark room performance in lighter viewing conditions is a good thing for banishing perceptions that HDR is "too dark" - as I think that the viewing environment is still one of the biggest factors that plays into that perception - it's going to actually reduce the "high dynamic range" part of the equation if the APL is going to be ramped up by, say, several hundred nits.

By making the average part of the signal that much brighter while the peak brightness for speculars etc can't physically go any higher than what the TV can already do then we're physically narrowing the dynamic range (between average and peak levels, I presume that IQ will still go down to black if necessary) and undermining one of the key USPs of this entire format. And for what, so Mr and Mrs average (who can barely tell HDR apart from SDR as it is) can watch it in a blazingly bright room? No sir, I don't like it.

I fear this is the start of the dumbing down of HDR, and I know you think HDR reviews aren't worth shit but this tech will just muddy the waters even further for conveying what's actually in the transfer versus how it gets mangled by whatever TV. Though HDR has been a shitshow for that anyway to be fair, what's another set of viewing parameters except one more for the fire?

[LordoftheRings]

Penton, does it look to you the journalist cameraman was using a HDR camera?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhZ...youtu.be&t=209

[LordoftheRings]

About this shot, HDR camera or not?

[Waboman]

Seems neither Quentin nor Fallon have ever seen 4K disc packaging. Lol. Start at about 3:32

YouTube

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Seems neither Quentin nor Fallon have ever seen 4K disc packaging. Lol. Start at about 3:32


https://youtubatch?v=UqR7iDUU1lk

Face-palm of all face-palms.

[Fendergopher]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Seems neither Quentin nor Fallon have ever seen 4K disc packaging. Lol. Start at about 3:32


https://youtube.com/watch?v=UqR7iDUU1lk

Ah yes, good old 4K UHD DVD.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Seems neither Quentin nor Fallon have ever seen 4K disc packaging. Lol. Start at about 3:32


https://youtube.com/watch?v=UqR7iDUU1lk

Well I think that done a fantastic job of showing the general ignorance of the public. I'll laugh if some assistant who's an enthusiast was told to get the DvD, asked if he could keep it after, production team went sure. Goes out and gets the 4K lol

[Geoff D]

"It's a black-ray!" looooooolz

[avs commenter]

Always good for a laugh. There is no way this video is accurate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KkrbD6SOUo

[Lee A Stewart]

Comcast to Show Super Bowl 2020 In 4K

“For the first time the Super Bowl will be broadcast in 4K Ultra High Definition,” tweeted @Comcastcares, the company’s customer service page.

The cable operator also recently revealed that it will show the LSU-Clemson college football championship game (Monday, January 13, 8 p.m. ET) in 4K. To watch either event in 4K, Comcast subscribers will need a 4K-enabled set-top from the cable operator as well as a 4K TV.

Fox has the broadcast rights to Super Bowl LIV, which will be played February 2, 2020 at the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. The network plans to produce the event in 1080p and ‘upscale’ it to 4K via a stream on its Fox Sports apps.

Upscaling is the process when one video format is converted to another. In this case, Fox will take the 1080p HDR signal and convert it to a 4K format, presumably 4K HDR. (This is what Fox did during the 2019 season with the 4K display of Thursday Night Football; the Thursday games were not produced in 4K, but they were upscaled to 4K.)

https://tvanswerman.com/2020/01/09/c...wl-2020-in-4k/