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Old 08-29-2010, 11:00 PM   #4241
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BTW, I like the American Werewolf cover.
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:31 PM   #4242
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On the way for people who dont like the Digibook

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Old 08-30-2010, 01:56 AM   #4243
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On the way for people who dont like the Digibook

I like the idea, but that particular style of scrapbook or whatever they are aren't all that attractive to begin with - i think perhaps a different kind of material other than the black wrinkly stuff would be much better.
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:04 AM   #4244
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If everyone's going to keep crying because people critique their work why don't we just turn this into a NO COMMENTS, pictures only forum?

I mean really. Some of the covers on here aren't good and people point it out. There are good ways and bad ways of saying it, but not everyone views what they're saying as harsh...

I've been accused of being an ass on more than one occasion when I'm COMPLETELY not trying to...

The internet doesn't allow for influxes in emotion. If you can't accept any sort of critique why not put, in bold letters, I can't take criticism so please don't comment on my picture unless you like it.

Problem solved...

By the way... I'm going to have to order like 8 copies of the star wars films so I can use all these bad ass covers!
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:55 AM   #4245
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If everyone's going to keep crying because people critique their work why don't we just turn this into a NO COMMENTS, pictures only forum?

I mean really. Some of the covers on here aren't good and people point it out. There are good ways and bad ways of saying it, but not everyone views what they're saying as harsh...

I've been accused of being an ass on more than one occasion when I'm COMPLETELY not trying to...

The internet doesn't allow for influxes in emotion. If you can't accept any sort of critique why not put, in bold letters, I can't take criticism so please don't comment on my picture unless you like it.

Problem solved...

By the way... I'm going to have to order like 8 copies of the star wars films so I can use all these bad ass covers!
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:04 AM   #4246
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I like the idea, but that particular style of scrapbook or whatever they are aren't all that attractive to begin with - i think perhaps a different kind of material other than the black wrinkly stuff would be much better.
But that is the notebook John Doe uses in Se7en, so just a random nothing to do with the film notebook would be preferable?
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:10 AM   #4247
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But that is the notebook John Doe uses in Se7en, so just a random nothing to do with the film notebook would be preferable?
I don't like those notebooks either... But it's PERFECT for the cover for the reason you stated...

I'd definitely keep it how it is.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:14 AM   #4248
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If everyone's going to keep crying because people critique their work why don't we just turn this into a NO COMMENTS, pictures only forum?

I mean really. Some of the covers on here aren't good and people point it out. There are good ways and bad ways of saying it, but not everyone views what they're saying as harsh...

I've been accused of being an ass on more than one occasion when I'm COMPLETELY not trying to...

The internet doesn't allow for influxes in emotion. If you can't accept any sort of critique why not put, in bold letters, I can't take criticism so please don't comment on my picture unless you like it.

Problem solved...

By the way... I'm going to have to order like 8 copies of the star wars films so I can use all these bad ass covers!
I don't say a word about other peoples work unless I out and out love it, its not my place.
If people have a problem with my stuff here, its simple I will host it elsewhere and then the problem is solved
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:43 PM   #4249
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:15 PM   #4250
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Amazing! Wonderful use of the promotional art, I like that you featured Voldemort.
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:39 PM   #4251
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:15 PM   #4252
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On the way for people who dont like the Digibook

I like the idea since it was part of the film. I am not sure if it has been completed but I think the back could use some more content. I think I will be skipping the Digibook and getting my copy form the UK, I like their cover art and this is assuming the versions are the same.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:37 PM   #4253
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I like the idea since it was part of the film. I am not sure if it has been completed but I think the back could use some more content. I think I will be skipping the Digibook and getting my copy form the UK, I like their cover art and this is assuming the versions are the same.
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:19 PM   #4254
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You seem to be more concerned with quantity than quality. Slow down a little and don't make your back covers so scatter-shot. There's no good reason to have the credits and detail box all spread out like that, covering up iconic images. I see this in many of your covers.

It's easy to slap a spiffy movie poster onto the front cover, that's the easy part. But it's the back side that requires the most attention. It looks like you're just hurrying up to get to the next movie.

Just some friendly criticism.

Top: Yours
Bottom: Revision

If we're throwing votes in here, I'm gonna have to side with dvdmike... and for exactly the same reasoning behind your friendly criticism. dvdmike's back has a finished, professional look and layout. His credit and copyright blocks are dead on and his use of logos is both accurate and (one of the biggest blunders I see with custom covers) the RIGHT SIZE. He's using the correct specs grid for Fox Home Entertainment and if you told me that his cover was the official artwork for the upcoming Star Wars Blu-ray, I'd have zero hesitation believing that. Yours... looks like a custom cover. You're essentially using the Warner Bros/Sony specs grid for a Fox movie, which is a big pet peeve of mine.

If I compare this to your Wall Street or Machete covers, the differences are even more obvious. They're good for what they are, but they are unmistakably homemade. If we just focus on your Machete cover for a moment, the R-Restricted logo is far too large, it's a logo that a studio would never use on a major new release, the running time is waaaayy off (it's 105 minutes), the credit block is wrong (the film was directed by Robert Rodriguez and Ethan Maniquis) and I find the spacing of the lettering to be too identical so there's no clear delineation between a person's first and last name and that same last name and the next person's first name (see ROBERT DE NIRO MICHELLE RODRIGUEZ JESSICA ALBA JEFF FAHEY). You also have a Dolby TrueHD logo on there, when Fox uses DTS-HD Master exclusively. These are the faulty details that scream 'homemade' to me. (another one is throwing logos on the back that don't belong just to fill space- such as covers that contain all of the various sound formats when only one is present on the disc... for example, I don't understand why you have an "NTSC" logo on your Braveheart cover).

So while I could agree that dvdmike might need to take an extra moment or two to really refine the composition of his images and text (and I would stress the word "refine"), I think his eye toward making the back cover look 'real' is one of his greatest strengths as a designer. You're absolutely correct when you say that it's the back cover that requires the most attention and, to my eye, dvdmike gives more than due attention to all the little details that make a cover look 'right.' You can hurry a design all you want if it still looks good in the end.
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:29 PM   #4255
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I don't say a word about other peoples work unless I out and out love it, its not my place. If people have a problem with my stuff here, its simple I will host it elsewhere and then the problem is solved
In the end if you like your cover that's all that matters. It's not a matter of needing to go somewhere else. I wouldn't want any members to leave. I'm just saying if you (not you you, a generalized you) don't take criticism well you should just write that you're not looking for remarks you just wanted to post your latest work.

I happen to think your (DVDmike) covers look fine.

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There's a difference between "I don't think that works, why don't you try this?" and "That sucks."
Agreed. But you'll have to admit that some people are definitely too sensitive when it comes to being critiqued... And that's fine. They just need to tell people not to critique their work.

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Old 08-30-2010, 05:32 PM   #4256
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A revision of my previous 'Wall Street 2' cover, using a far superior German poster to work off of.


I like the work art but i'd lose the BD symbol on the front, and why is the BD symbol on the spine sideways?

Other than that looks good.
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:01 PM   #4257
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Ahha! Someone got it!

and just so everyone else can see it and for all that don't know. The Fast and the Furious IS Point Break, only difference is that they had cars and not surf boards in that movie. Same plot and everything.
uhh dunno what movie you were watching these 2 movies arent the same at all, for starters one robs banks with mask skydives kidnaps a girl, not one of those things happened in Fast and Furious, you should really watch these 2 movies again
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:02 PM   #4258
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Doesn't this all presuppose that you want a custom cover to be indistinguishable from a retail version? With UPC and everything?

I personally don't really want that. It's not so much "right" as it is "like a retail one" that you're talking about.
I think there is a happy medium, I think all designers need to make a prefect copy of a retail to start with.
After that you start to play with the formula and make a true custom within the studio format.
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:05 PM   #4259
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uhh dunno what movie you were watching these 2 movies arent the same at all, for starters one robs banks with mask skydives kidnaps a girl, not one of those things happened in Fast and Furious, you should really watch these 2 movies again
The basic plot of both is the same:

A young cop goes undercover into the {insert counter-culture} scene.
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:07 PM   #4260
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In the end if you like your cover that's all that matters. It's not a matter of needing to go somewhere else. I wouldn't want any members to leave. I'm just saying if you (not you you, a generalized you) don't take criticism well you should just write that you're not looking for remarks you just wanted to post your latest work.

I happen to think your (DVDmike) covers look fine.



Agreed. But you'll have to admit that some people are definitely too sensitive when it comes to being critiqued... And that's fine. They just need to tell people not to critique their work.
I don't mind criticism, but valid constructive criticism is what's needed if any.
At the end of the day if people have spent hours and hours on a cover, then they had a look and design in mind, and you would think someone else on here that spends that time would appreciate that.
I spend a lot of time balancing a cover front and back.
I think I am very good at the fronts, but the backs do not come naturally
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