HDR Discussion Thread

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Peter,
for the home media deliverables, I would really like to see an HDR version of this film eventually come to pass – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10095582/ as Peter Doyle is the supervising colorist.

That same cinematographer/colorist duo has done some pretty successful HDR work before, e.g. https://www.postmagazine.com/Publica...t-Hour-I-.aspx

Penton, what do you mean? The Tragedy of MacBeth has a DV grade like most everything at Apple, right? I’m watching the trailer in DV now.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Penton, what do you mean? The Tragedy of MacBeth has a DV grade like most everything at Apple, right? I’m watching the trailer in DV now.

hah, I didn’t know, don’t have a subscription to Apple now, thanks for the info

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

hah, I didn’t know, don’t have a subscription to Apple now, thanks for the info

No problem. Glad is was just a misunderstanding. FYI, you don't have to currently subscribe to Apple TV+ to watch their trailers in DV, just use their app. Also a heads up, Target Circle has 4 months free.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by puddy77

No problem. Glad is was just a misunderstanding. FYI, you don't have to currently subscribe to Apple TV+ to watch their trailers in DV, just use their app. Also a heads up, Target Circle has 4 months free.

good to know as I haven’t watched the latest season of TL yet –

Brendan Hunt on Ted Lasso Emmy Wins, Pretending to Be English & New Baby - YouTube

and now wondering if Antonio Conte doesn’t succeed, who’s next? -

An American Coach in London: NBC Sports Premier League Film featuring Jason Sudeikis - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Brendan Hunt on Ted Lasso Emmy Wins, Pretending to Be English & New Baby - YouTube

On the other hand, this guy really is originally from Manchester -

24hr Colorist Mixer Film Convert - YouTube

b.t.w., a few hours ago more Colorist Mixer videos just dropped on YouTube covering a variety of dynamic topics, for instance - –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLQUHu8N7Wo#t=19m27s

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

HI, It's Halloween (aka Oct 31) and it's just after 10 pm PDT.

Current View total is 11,425,465 - 10,733,012 (Sept 30) = 692,453 views for 31 days. That's about 22,337 avg / day. 2/3 million for a month continues to be a huge draw to this site, and quality HDR news and info is the key topic. (not the only topic).

Thanks to all the folks and all their eyeball reads that make HDR and this place interesting (and sometimes fun). Thanks, Everyone.

Throwback Thursday -
How many of us possess the patience for doing this: 3 months of effort for the first assembly of this one sequence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2hYZoUHp8g#t=31m44s

I know I don’t, just too restless to examine all that footage.

Much easier to quickly inform as to the particular pilots in formation - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post16871631

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Although I like technological achievements, e.g. –

Virtual Production: Are You Game? | Produced by the Academy's Science and Technology Council - YouTube

I admire old school - ‘actually being there’ production and production solutions more: https://movieweb.com/tom-cruise-top-gun-2/
More heart and soul to that ^.

nevertheless, these days, virtual production is thee hot topic among motion picture and television engineers and other folks– https://atc21.smpte.org/home/1500759

what does it mean? -


until then, from the BFI -

The Creative Pivot: How Virtual Production Is Changing the Game | BFI London Film Festival 2021 - YouTube

one speaker ^ in talking about House of the Dragon -
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11198330/ , makes a brief reference to the new virtual production stage at Warner Bros. Studio Leavesden, so for those unfamiliar, it is quite a remarkable state of the art stage offering a 7,100 sq. ft. wrap-around virtual production environment with a 5,500 sq. ft. dynamic motorized ceiling!

[LordoftheRings]

Check out the HDR quality of the DJI Ronin 4D camera ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUzP...ature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3_i...ature=youtu.be

* Bonus (Mavic 3 Cine / Hires HDR Drone ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIho...ature=youtu.be

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Truth is most home video transfers have been artificially brightened to look better on displays. HDR returns it to the original dynamic range of the film capture.

Not sure that is what it is. I think the real truth is most people don't watch SDR content at the nit level it was mastered at (100 nits) and instead watch it substantially higher due to the relative gamma model we use with SDR. HDR is absolute gamma, so that range is shown in the range it was mastered, so now everything is darker than what everyone was watching before. This is what happens when you make an absolute format designed to be accurate in a mastering room and not a family room. This is also why we are seeing compression come into play so that the complaints stop (we went through the same drama with audio, but no one ever learns from the past).

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Not sure that is what it is. I think the real truth is most people don't watch SDR content at the nit level it was mastered at (100 nits) and instead watch it substantially higher due to the relative gamma model we use with SDR. HDR is absolute gamma, so that range is shown in the range it was mastered, so now everything is darker than what everyone was watching before. This is what happens when you make an absolute format designed to be accurate in a mastering room and not a family room. This is also why we are seeing compression come into play so that the complaints stop (we went through the same drama with audio, but no one ever learns from the past).

Yep yep yep. Though it must be said that some HDR versions can still actually be darker for average brightness than even the 100-nit SDR equivalent viewed at the correct level, but in the main I totally agree: people are so used to watching SDR on Torch Mode with the lights on/sunlight blaring in that the absolute luminance of HDR is something of a shock to the system. Hence stuff like Dolby IQ to try and goose it for this kind of 'daytime' viewing, jacking up the average brightness to silly levels which then kinda undoes the 'HDR' aspect in general. But hey, as long as J6P is happy, that's the main thing.

[gkolb]

Just wondering where our spirit guide, P-M has gone off to?
Fishing with LOTR in Canada, vacay, cycling racing??

The radio silence is deafening…

[LordoftheRings]

Penton is the master Hollywood insider; HDR all that jazz.
I'm just in it for the Cinematic ride...Top Gun.

Dune is on my list next ...
I need a dose of reinventing, rejuvenating...a booster.

[LordoftheRings]

Dolby Vision IQ

[LordoftheRings]

HDR10+ Adaptive

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

....But hey, as long as J6P is happy, that's the main thing.

Joe6Pack may not be as technologically astute as videophiles, but allow poor Joe some slack, as it is inherently natural for humans to like Brightness - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post19275870, just like it’s in our DNA to be able to better see green than red - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdIr6COX1DQ#t=46s.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Just wondering where our spirit guide, P-M has gone off to?
Fishing with LOTR in Canada, vacay, cycling racing??

The radio silence is deafening…

I have become involved in a very time-consuming new project.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Penton is the master Hollywood insider; HDR all that jazz.
I'm just in it for the Cinematic ride...Top Gun.

Dune is on my list next ...
I need a dose of reinventing, rejuvenating...a booster.

Who would have figured that the Venice - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post17258606

2 -

Behind the Scenes of “Homecoming� with Rob McLachlan ASC, CSC | VENICE 2 - YouTube

would arrive before Top Gun 2?

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Reports: Samsung and Sony to launch QD-OLED TVs

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1637134795

"No Dolby Vision" will result in an untenable situation for Samsung: QD-OLED Samsung TV with no Dolby Vision vs QD-OLED Sony TV compatible with Dolby Vision contents of all the big streaming providers!

Amazon Prime Video has some Dolby Vision contents, but Amazon TVs are Dolby Vision-compliant.

[Lee A Stewart]

Samsung is the largest seller of TVs in the world. One out of every five TVs sold is a Samsung. So not having Dolby Vision really hasn't hurt them as much as you think it will.

[DanBa]

The non-support of Dolby Vision isn't an advantage for Samsung.

QD-OLED TV is expensive high-end TV, and "only a fool would spend all that money on a TV with a key feature like Dolby Vision missing".
https://twitter.com/MikeTiVo/status/1461011468988653580
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1505495519