AMC's "Fear The Walking Dead" (Season 8)

[Wernski]

I thought this was the best ep so far. I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of the more annoying characters getting killed off though.

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by jurassic_pork

I gotta agree with Ruben Blades....Travis is weak.

Travis "You know how I feel about guns."

LOLOLOL

[#Darren]

The collapse of the city infrastructure was pretty unbelievable IMO.

The amount of zombies at this point is very small. Not enough to cause chaos.

The human rioters would not cause the entire city to lose all electricity...

[#Darren]

OK even if the daughter is still "in the dark" so to speak, all that standing in the windows with torches shining all over the place, while she knows there are killers wandering the street, and the mom was doing the same,

PULEEEEZE!

Only a person with a 70 IQ would do this.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Wernski

I thought this was the best ep so far. I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of the more annoying characters getting killed off though.

chris gets my vote

[neoz]

Originally Posted by #Darren

Travis "You know how I feel about guns."

LOLOLOL

In my head...I'm like you better get yo liking them cause there won't be anymore of this talking or hugging it out crap. haha

[PrestigeWorldwide]

Originally Posted by MattO

It just doesn't work as depicted. Don't get me wrong - I enjoy superhero flicks although I know that they can't just turn themselves around in mid flight like that. It's not ruining my enjoyment of the show but I secretly hoped there would be a part of the story that covers it - like mass deaths early on from initial contact. That could be coming as an explanation, but again that wouldn't have stayed out of the media and the first responders wouldn't be so clueless.

It does seem like they could easily contain the zombies given rules of the show.

However, if some people develop a fever and die without being bit or scratched or somehow injured from another zombie , then the zombie apocalypse would make much more sense. As far as I know though, that's not the case with this show.

[THB]

It's starting to get better, so far the best episode of season but I'm struggling with how stupid people are sometimes.

"This sick looking dude is growling, walking weird towards me and has blood all over, I must try to talk to him and maybe even hug him."

I'm going to keep watching the series as I'm a huge Zombie fan (Movies,TV Series/Games/Etc) but I really hope that I will grow to like and even care about some of the characters.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by THB

"This sick looking dude is growling, walking weird towards me and has blood all over, I must try to talk to him and maybe even hug him."

Travis is the real life equivalent of Tina from Bob's Burgers. He secretly writes Erotic zombie fan fiction on his days off.

[jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by PrestigeWorldwide

It does seem like they could easily contain the zombies given rules of the show.

However, if some people develop a fever and die without being bit or scratched or somehow injured from another zombie , then the zombie apocalypse would make much more sense. As far as I know though, that's not the case with this show.

It is the case in this show, everyone is infected and once their brain shuts down it takes over. Like the people in the drug house, one prob died of overdose and then attacking the others passed out.
In this series that was the main problem, you could have the military secure a location air tight and clear everyone only to have someone die in the night and run through the place.

Originally Posted by #Darren

The collapse of the city infrastructure was pretty unbelievable IMO.

The amount of zombies at this point is very small. Not enough to cause chaos.

The human rioters would not cause the entire city to lose all electricity...

I don't know seems pretty reasonable to me, people stay home and don't show to work. They may have enough people that show to keep it going as long as something doesn't go wrong but given the situation (riots/car crashes/fires/other situations) it would be pretty likely they wouldn't have the man power to keep it going.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by jokerzwild

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I don't know seems pretty reasonable to me, people stay home and don't show to work. They may have enough people that show to keep it going as long as something doesn't go wrong but given the situation (riots/car crashes/fires/other situations) it would be pretty likely they wouldn't have the main power to keep it going.

There was a show on Discovery? channel awhile ago and the premise was what would happen in the world if mankind suddenly disappeared.

The one episode that stands out was infrastructure related. As shown in FTWD power would collapse. Given. But it's not just that - nuclear reactors would meltdown, dams burst, drinking water contaminated, cities burn to the ground etc. etc.

Obviously not right away......but over time the landscape would become a nightmare.

[Pondosinatra]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/...ticle26370176/

[neoz]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

There was a show on Discovery? channel awhile ago and the premise was what would happen in the world if mankind suddenly disappeared.

The one episode that stands out was infrastructure related. As shown in FTWD power would collapse. Given. But it's not just that - nuclear reactors would meltdown, dams burst, drinking water contaminated, cities burn to the ground etc. etc.

Obviously not right away......but over time the landscape would become a nightmare.

I know there was a show on National Geographic called Aftermath: Population Zero and then another show on History Channel called Life After People. I enjoyed the one on History Channel.

Also, I worked in public utilizes (water treatment operator) and I can tell you that if the power did go out and there was no way to get diesel to the back up generators then water would get bad quick. I know that for city of 25,000 (not a lot) there was only 6 operators total. And even then there was only usually 1 operating every 12 hours. A major city like LA probably has a much bigger water treatment plant and facilities and people but again, I'm sure they don't need many to operate it. If half of the operators get sick and then others run off to save their families or just stay home then water would go bad fast. I would say less then a week maybe even 5 days before water would be non potable.

[jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by neoz

I know there was a show on National Geographic called Aftermath: Population Zero and then another show on History Channel called Life After People. I enjoyed the one on History Channel.

Also, I worked in public utilizes (water treatment operator) and I can tell you that if the power did go out and there was no way to get diesel to the back up generators then water would get bad quick. I know that for city of 25,000 (not a lot) there was only 6 operators total. And even then there was only usually 1 operating every 12 hours. A major city like LA probably has a much bigger water treatment plant and facilities and people but again, I'm sure they don't need many to operate it. If half of the operators get sick and then others run off to save their families or just stay home then water would go bad fast. I would say less then a week maybe even 5 days before water would be non potable.

Do urban areas have water if the power goes out (households)? I have been on well water for a long time and don't recall. No power for us means no water pump which means no water.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by jokerzwild

Do urban areas have water if the power goes out (households)? I have been on well water for a long time and don't recall. No power for us means no water pump which means no water.

btw, I wasn't arguing with you if it looked that way. (sorry) I was just trying to bring some more information to the table.

And I would say yes/no. The pumps at most plants run on electricity, and as I mentioned our plant had back up diesel power. When those go down you all you have left is what is in the water tanks. You can still treat water but you can't treat a lot. And the pumps help maintain a constant level of pressure. Use can balance that temporarily if the power goes out but you need those pumps. Not only that but also you need electricity to run the pumps that feed chemicals into the water.

So yes they do but it would be every low water pressure and unless they get the power back up they can't produce a lot. And no because if the power is not restored then demand would secede capacity.

[jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by neoz

btw, I wasn't arguing with you if it looked that way. (sorry) I was just trying to bring some more information to the table.

And I would say yes/no. The pumps at most plants run on electricity, and as I mentioned our plant had back up diesel power. When those go down you all you have left is what is in the water tanks. You can still treat water but you can't treat a lot. And the pumps help maintain a constant level of pressure. Use can balance that temporarily if the power goes out but you need those pumps. Not only that but also you need electricity to run the pumps that feed chemicals into the water.

So yes they do but it would be every low water pressure and unless they get the power back up they can't produce a lot. And no because if the power is not restored then demand would secede capacity.

I didn't think you were, just struck me to ask since you were knowledgeable about the subject. Ya that is pretty much what I thought but then also remembered that they always told people in hurricane areas to fill their tubs so wasn't sure.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by jokerzwild

I didn't think you were, just struck me to ask since you were knowledgeable about the subject. Ya that is pretty much what I thought but then also remembered that they always told people in hurricane areas to fill their tubs so wasn't sure.

We actually had at smaller plant that ran off of well pumps. Needless to say that sucked during the ice storm of 08. haha
And yeah, I have a friend that lives in that area of the US and she is always telling about having to do that.

[PrestigeWorldwide]

Originally Posted by jokerzwild

It is the case in this show, everyone is infected and once their brain shuts down it takes over. Like the people in the drug house, one prob died of overdose and then attacking the others passed out.
In this series that was the main problem, you could have the military secure a location air tight and clear everyone only to have someone die in the night and run through the place.

I realize that, but when people die naturally (non zombie related injury, over dose, disease, etc) and you have a little zombie out break, it's difficult to imagine it spreading to an apocalyptic size. You'd think there would just be several self contained breakouts here and there and that's it. Nothing that would even wipe out half the population.

But if some of the people, let's say 25-50% of the population, automatically got a fever and died once they were infected with the pathogen that brings people back from the dead, then I can easily see it spreading quickly to an apocalyptic size.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by PrestigeWorldwide

I realize that, but when people die naturally (non zombie related injury, over dose, disease, etc) and you have a little zombie out break, it's difficult to imagine it spreading to an apocalyptic size. You'd think there would just be several self contained breakouts here and there and that's it. Nothing that would even wipe out half the population.

But if some of the people, let's say 25-50% of the population, automatically got a fever and died once they were infected with the pathogen that brings people back from the dead, then I can easily see it spreading quickly to an apocalyptic size.

Of course we're talking about fiction here....

For a disease/virus to truly threaten humanity it needs a moderate mortality rate but a long incubation period. Ebola is one of the most virulent diseases there is, but that's also it's weakness, it's too effective - people usually die out long before it can spread outside the region of the outbreak. The most likely mass die off is still from some weird ass strain of the flu.

[djgeneral]

Pilot - 10.13 million
So Close, Yet So Far - 8.18 million
The Dog - 7.19 million

Wonder if it will keep dropping, or if it will be stable now? I'm neutral on the show. I'll continue to watch, but if it were canceled, I wouldn't care.