AMC's "Fear The Walking Dead" (Season 8)

[chad_1138]

Originally Posted by rickah88

[Show spoiler]I'm thinking Fear might be the best character introduction in the history of TV, when this group meets up with Rick & Company, as the show merges into TWD. Definitely liked how Madison said to head East. I'm assuming the boat, while nice, won't last that long. If the show merge theory hold, the only way they could get to the East Coast would be through Panama, and I'm not sure how many nautical miles that would be and if they have enough fuel(and fuel stops) to complete it. Even if they made it to the Gulf, it would save a massive amount of time having to traverse through the desert then Rockies.
What if Madison is Shane's sister?

[Show spoiler]Agree about the boat not lasting long. I think we are going to see many "not nice" groups out on the water.

And, as far as Madison, my money is on Shane's sister too.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

[Show spoiler]Liza

clearly got

[Show spoiler]bit

on the

[Show spoiler]arm

in the kitchen.
I guess they decided to move the

[Show spoiler]bite

to

[Show spoiler]her belly

so as not to have the

[Show spoiler]rest of the characters

notice until later.

They should have moved

[Show spoiler]her body

to the ocean, instead of just leaving

[Show spoiler]her

there to be discovered by

[Show spoiler]Chris

, which is what

[Show spoiler]she

didn't want

[Show spoiler]him

to see.

I wanted everyone except for

[Show spoiler]her

to be

[Show spoiler]killed off

...

The opening City shot, while it looked really cool, was really stupid. It hasn't been all that long since the power went out. Most of those buildings have generators. There should have been SOME lights on!

Why

[Show spoiler]must

you

[Show spoiler]use

an

[Show spoiler]over

amount

[Show spoiler]of

spoiler

[Show spoiler]tags

in

[Show spoiler]your

posts?

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Why

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you

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an

[Show spoiler]over

amount

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posts?

I'm being considerate for those that have not yet seen the episode.

[chad_1138]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

I'm being considerate for those that have not yet seen the episode.

I think he was suggesting using one spoiler tag around the entire post rather than multiple spoiler tags.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

I'm being considerate for those that have not yet seen the episode.

I know that. I was pointing out there's no need to spoiler tag every other word like you tend to do in your posts.

Originally Posted by chad_1138

I think he was suggesting using one spoiler tag around the entire post rather than multiple spoiler tags.

Thank you. He got my point

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Simon_LDT

She was referring to an earlier conversation where Madison mentioned that if she were to turn herself, that she wanted Liza to kill her instead of Travis. Liza wanted the same in return.

The farm was the best season for me. I don't mind slow at all, as long as it's interesting. I'll admit the love triangle in that season was very soap-ish but the

[Show spoiler]transformation of Shane

was well worth it. It was also the start of showing how the humans are more of a threat than the undead.

Yeah exactly. She specifically told her "don't let Travis do it. It'll break him." And she immediately let's Travis do it.

[Carlanga]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Yeah exactly. She specifically told her "don't let Travis do it. It'll break him." And she immediately let's Travis do it.

I think this was just a character growth decision for Travis. Just like leaving the soldier alive then going mad when he shoots the daughter instead of the barber. It's all to make us see the changes needed for the character to grow as the main leader. The show writers have spoken and have made him officially their "Rick" for ftwd. Same w the barbers decisions. He had the power and smart to become the smart choice as the leader, but having him go all bad guy in though situations causing more chaos has made him become the outsider that will cause problems and deaths next season. For me he is a mix of Shane and the old man from ftwd.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Carlanga

I think this was just a character growth decision for Travis. Just like leaving the soldier alive then going mad when he shoots the daughter instead of the barber. It's all to make us see the changes needed for the character to grow as the main leader. The show writers have spoken and have made him officially their "Rick" for ftwd. Same w the barbers decisions. He had the power and smart to become the smart choice as the leader, but having him go all bad guy in though situations causing more chaos has made him become the outsider that will cause problems and deaths next season. For me he is a mix of Shane and the old man from ftwd.

Quite possibly. Although, after what the soldier did, I think Daniel did exactly the right thing. That solider was a lying PoS, and he made his choice. He had the opportunity to run. To get away with the other soldiers. And he had the choice to put the gun down. He instead chose revenge. He even decided to make it far more personal, and go after the thing Daniel claimed to cherish most. Someone even HE had a relationship with. Daniel was right about him.

[partridge]

I think the most telling thing about this series is that it's NOT based/lifted from story lines from the comics; it's a original take on the TWD world. That showed in bucket loads because this series jumped around all of the place with too many convenient coincidences. Really, how likely is it that a small group of people are going to break into a pretty big facility, in the dark, and all manage to meet up by chance?

So Daniel

[Show spoiler] released 2000 walkers to distract the guards? Causing the deaths of dozens and dozens of entirely innocent people? And as pointed out, the group left the gates open to their community? What a bunch of a-holes. How are we supposed to root for any of these guys?

Eps1-3 were far better than 4-6 and the

[Show spoiler] jump in time killed off the entire purpose of this show. And yeah, the panoramic shot of LA at the end; entirely deserted! It's been less than 3 weeks since ep1. Where the hell did everyone go?

I didn't think this and TWD were ever going to cross over and I really, really hope they don't. TWD is quality tv, this is a poor spin off and would drag TWD down a peg if the characters ever met. Rick and co wouldn't tolerate this group of idiots anyway.

Fear the Walking Dead? No, I didn't.

[Kevinicus]

Originally Posted by partridge

I think the most telling thing about this series is that it's NOT based/lifted from story lines from the comics; it's a original take on the TWD world. That showed in bucket loads because this series jumped around all of the place with too many convenient coincidences. Really, how likely is it that a small group of people are going to break into a pretty big facility, in the dark, and all manage to meet up by chance?

So Daniel

[Show spoiler] released 2000 walkers to distract the guards? Causing the deaths of dozens and dozens of entirely innocent people? And as pointed out, the group left the gates open to their community? What a bunch of a-holes. How are we supposed to root for any of these guys?

Eps1-3 were far better than 4-6 and the

[Show spoiler] jump in time killed off the entire purpose of this show. And yeah, the panoramic shot of LA at the end; entirely deserted! It's been less than 3 weeks since ep1. Where the hell did everyone go?

I didn't think this and TWD were ever going to cross over and I really, really hope they don't. TWD is quality tv, this is a poor spin off and would drag TWD down a peg if the characters ever met. Rick and co wouldn't tolerate this group of idiots anyway.

Fear the Walking Dead? No, I didn't.

The time jump was obviously done because they couldn't think of a legitimate reason why things would fall into such chaos considering how easily dealt with the zombies are.

Of course considering all the other things they write on the show that doesn't really make sense, I am a little surprised they didn't even try.

[rickah88]

Thought it was a brilliant touch the writers designed it that the audience would be "smarter" than the characters. Obviously the audience knows what's going to happen, whereas the characters do not. A very good touch!
I'm sure that will change next season as this group becomes more hardened having to live off the land just like TWD group has done. We only need to revisit the S1/S2 of the TWD and see how many of the decisions made by Rick & company were not the best. Of course Rick has the benefit of years of law enforcement training to give him a good advantage, while the Fear group has no such luxury(pending Strand's backstory).
It the realism of this show that I appreciated.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Thought it was a brilliant touch the writers designed it that the audience would be "smarter" than the characters. Obviously the audience knows what's going to happen, whereas the characters do not. A very good touch!
I'm sure that will change next season as this group becomes more hardened having to live off the land just like TWD group has done. We only need to revisit the S1/S2 of the TWD and see how many of the decisions made by Rick & company were not the best. Of course Rick has the benefit of years of law enforcement training to give him a good advantage, while the Fear group has no such luxury(pending Strand's backstory).
It the realism of this show that I appreciated.

Same here, I enjoyed that he mentioned that during The Talking Dead.

[partridge]

The selling point of FTWD was that it would show us how the world broke down. But it didn't. It skipped that completely and we're now left with a group in the same position Rick's was in at the end of their S1.

Now S1 is out of the way, what is this group going to do that will be different to anything we've already seen? They will get smarter at dealing with walkers, they will learn to clear out abandoned stores, they will come across rival groups, etc, etc.

The only character I'm curious about is Strand. Why was he in the quarantine area? Is he ill? If so, with what? He had a very clear strategy about how to get out, almost like he knew what was about to happen.

But beyond him, the rest of the are pretty "meh". I will watch S2 and hopefully it will surprise me like TWD does.

[MattO]

Originally Posted by partridge

The selling point of FTWD was that it would show us how the world broke down. But it didn't. It skipped that completely

I share that disappointment but, in a way, there was no way to show enough detail to satisfy us while keeping around the people who just tune in to see people or zombies killing each other. Throw in the fact that the whole situation isn't really feasible and they pretty much had to skimp.

Even now, as the situation was depicted in E6, the military should have no problem eliminating roving herds of walkers. And enemy with no intelligence, whose weapons are teeth and who move slower than regular people just isn't going to win in the long run versus an equipped, intelligent force who can pick most of their battles.

Originally Posted by partridge

and we're now left with a group in the same position Rick's was in at the end of their S1.

Maaaybe. It feels that way but I'm not sure about that. It's clear LA is pretty hosed, but could we still hear an address from the President or see a semi-functional government in retreat? Safe zones on a much bigger scale than we've seen on TWD? See what a limited but functional communication system does for people? I think there's still room for a different status quo than we see in TWD.

[MattO]

Oh, yeah, and what Daniel did

[Show spoiler]with the walkers was pretty evil. I bet the others didn't understand the scale of what he was planning to do.

And I bet he got those walkers from the stadium. Since the military locked them in there, he probably thought that made it right.

[Gold Ranger]

Heard a rumour...
Something on the radio, said that ratings dropped drastically from episode to episode and that Season 2 might be canceled.

[JamesKurtovich]

Season two would have to be drastically better. This show was really weak until the last couple episodes.

I tuned in to see how it all went down. I figured that was this show's schtick. It wasn't.

[djgeneral]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Heard a rumour...
Something on the radio, said that ratings dropped drastically from episode to episode and that Season 2 might be canceled.

Not true at all. In terms of season 2 being canceled.

The live ratings averaged 7.61 million viewers for the season. That's the highest cable show out there besides TWD. It isn't in any danger at all.

Most scripted cable shows never pass 3-4 million. Anything over that is extremely extremely EXTREMELY safe. Even if FTWD was hitting 3 million it would STILL be safe. AMC doesn't have anything else with Breaking Bad, Mad Men gone and Hell ON Wheels about to wrap.

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Heard a rumour...
Something on the radio, said that ratings dropped drastically from episode to episode and that Season 2 might be canceled.

ugh now you're lying in this thread as well. Also aren't you from America? why are you spelling rumor like they do in the U.K.?

[Bageara]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

ugh now you're lying in this thread as well. Also aren't you from America? why are you spelling rumor like they do in the U.K.?

Yeah coz nobody ever spreads rumours in America that sort of thing is exclusive to the UK