Netflix Turns Focus Back to Disc

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Easy to mock when your sitting in front of a screen isn't it?

It's not quite as easy as predicting the future but yeah, it's pretty easy.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by octagon

It's not quite as easy as predicting the future but yeah, it's pretty easy.

We all do it to a certain extent though don't we? Using sport as an example, we all seem to know how our teams will fare before the season starts etc..

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Rick, I suggest we avoid each other on these forums? Things are sweet when we do. I won't reply to your posts and vice versa. I'm not getting involved in (in my opinion) some tag team, back patting or (also in my opinion) over the top smileys.

Hey you addressed me, not the other way around.
If you don't like my use of Smilies...well sorry, but there aren't any rules against that.
By all means, place me on ignore...problem solved.
But I'll continue to post on whatever I wish, as that's the whole point of a message board.

If you're so thin-skinned that a harmless pic sends you into a tizzy, even when someone is trying to explain the ideals behind the pic and how you misinterpreted said pic, then perhaps message boards are not for you.
Heck, a couple years ago you were like a broken record claiming physical media would be gone. Well, here we are, and business is a boomin'.

As Mifunefan said, this will be a drawn out process most likely. Also anyone with half a brain would know Netflix can't keep the $8/month unlimited streaming plan going forever. IF net neutrality bites into Netflix's coffers, they will just raise their rates and pass the buck on to the customer. All businesses do this. Will people leave? Probably, but streaming is here to stay. As a physical media collector I don't like saying that, but it is what it is. More and more people will join the streaming ranks so Netflix, most likely, won't even miss a beat. Juggernauts rarely do.

Again this is all speculation. So there's that as well.

[The_Donster]

Oh c'mon Steed, stop playing the victim Streaming is no different than cable was back when it started back in the day and like cable it will evolve. I can only speak for myself, but I have no delusions that the price will increase eventually. It happened with cable, the internet, etc. and guess what? They're still around. Just because it isn't something you support doesn't make it any less viable to those who do. So stop beating the drum.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Hey you addressed me, not the other way around.
If you don't like my use of Smilies...well sorry, but there aren't any rules against that.
By all means, place me on ignore...problem solved.
But I'll continue to post on whatever I wish, as that's the whole point of a message board.

If you're so thin-skinned that a harmless pic sends you into a tizzy, even when someone is trying to explain the ideals behind the pic and how you misinterpreted said pic, then perhaps message boards are not for you.
Heck, a couple years ago you were like a broken record claiming physical media would be gone. Well, here we are, and business is a boomin'.

As Mifunefan said, this will be a drawn out process most likely. Also anyone with half a brain would know Netflix can't keep the $8/month unlimited streaming plan going forever. IF net neutrality bites into Netflix's coffers, they will just raise their rates and pass the buck on to the customer. All businesses do this. Will people leave? Probably, but streaming is here to stay. As a physical media collector I don't like saying that, but it is what it is. More and more people will join the streaming ranks so Netflix, most likely, won't even miss a beat. Juggernauts rarely do.

Again this is all speculation. So there's that as well.

When did I say optical media would be gone in two years. I still believe it is in trouble and a 4.96% (I believe) increase YOY is not booming! It's hanging on because all the sheep are adopting streaming.

I am the type of person who doesn't take crap from anyone. I ain't gonna start now. Consider this matter closed and I won't correspond to you in future regarding any topic.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Oh c'mon steel, stop playing the victim Streaming is no different than cable was back when it started back in the day and like cable it will evolve. I can only speak for myself, but I have no delusions that the price will increase eventually. It happened with cable, the internet, etc. and guess what? They're still around. Just because it isn't something you support doesn't make it any less viable to those who do. So stop beating the drum.

The name is Steed.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

When did I say optical media would be gone in two years. I still believe it is in trouble and a 4.96% (I believe) increase YOY is not booming! It's hanging on because all the sheep are adopting streaming.

I am the type of person who doesn't take crap from anyone. I ain't gonna start now. Consider this matter closed and I won't correspond to you in future regarding any topic.

I said 2 years ago you were whining about the death of physical media. Every other post from you was about the sky falling. Heck, Penton even tried to reassure you, but you(like now) don't listen! You blow things out of proportion(like now), and it leads to senseless banter(like now).

Matter closed: check
Will never reply to me: check
I'm devastated: check

[EuroCultAV]

There are a number of issues that will prevent streaming services to cover all markets of film viewers and thus never fully take over physical media.

Rights. The rights to films come and go every few years, the major studios only really own a handful of the overall films ever made, and thus the streaming services will have a hard time getting a majority of the films ever created on their services. Thus, they will end up like a digital streaming Blockbuster, and end up servicing the mainstream with the newest hits, popular TV shows, and the most popular classics.

If you want real film obscurities those will probably still come from physical media sources like DVD, Blu-ray, and maybe a 4K source. We barely have all of Jess Franco's 200+ films on physical media, I doubt streaming will ever get them. And in that regard I already have 3 streaming services Amazon, Hulu and Netflix, and not so much for cinema viewing, but to have kids programming available, and the occasionally movie. How many services will have to be purchased to get the latest new releases from all the studios once they thing they have a handle on this? It's already pretty ridiciulous.

Also, what of censorship issues. If a streaming service becomes the only place to see Lucio Fulci's Zombi 2, they might choose to cut it for content since they have a monopoly. I'd rather have access to a region free optical media player, and have access to a multitude of editions of my own choosing.

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The name is Steed.

Fixed it for you crybaby

[Pelican170]

lol, when was the focus on streaming?? Because Netflix streaming sucks!!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Fixed it for you crybaby

More name calling, cool. More insulting smileys cool!

[ZoetMB]

I think net neutrality is going to be less of an issue than everyone thinks especially in markets where there are multiple ISPs. (And that's if the FCC doesn't find another way to regulate it or if Congress doesn't take action, and I think it will).

Here's why: let's say you're Verizon and you start slowing down Netflix or anyone else who's not willing to pay you a tidy sum. If I'm Time-Warner or Comcast or RCN, I'm going to take out full page ads saying that Verizon restricts the internet or doesn't let you watch Netflix and we don't.

I think competition is going to make the lack of net neutrality moot.

Time-Warner lost something like 500,000 customers when they didn't have CBS or Showtime for a few weeks during the last dispute. That was over money, but anyone who restricts anything is going to be taking a huge risk with their customers. Hell, I bet most of those 500,000 customers didn't even watch CBS or Showtime. I think it's just the idea of not having every channel available that turned them off.

If my ISP slows or blocks any sites, I'll have a new ISP the very next day. And I think they all know that. Having said that, I'm sure all the CFOs are drooling at the possibility of charging Netflix or Google or Hulu or Amazon money. But in the end, it's not going to happen.

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

More name calling, cool. More insulting smileys cool!

So why are you here Steedeel, in this particular thread? Because it really feels like trolling at this point. Want folks to take you seriously? Try bringing something new to the table and maybe, just maybe, that will happen.

[The_Donster]

You bring up a interesting point Zoet. Do you think we'll have the same issues with streaming that satellite customer has had where the channels were blacked out?

[cpr3584]

I work in the media and today we received a scary report:

It might not be too much longer before you have to fork over more cash to be able to stream movies and TV shows on the internet.
A federal court ruling may open that door.
this is basically all about bandwidth....which is the currency of the internet and internet providers have been pushing to change things for a while.
When you use up a lot of bandwidth downloading movies and streaming things online, your internet providers have to bare that cost.
It used to be that the F-C-C said to internet providers, that they can't discriminate between one website and another.
But now the court has struck down that idea...and that opens the door for internet providers to charge sites like Netflix and hulu more money because streaming their content takes up more bandwidth.
So the idea is that soon, providers will give faster access to the companies that pay more.
think of it like the fast lane on the highway, but it's a toll road.
You can already see this when you travel- wifi networks on planes generally won't allow you to stream movies.
And even some hotels ban it from their wifi hotspots.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by cpr3584

I work in the media and today we received a scary report:

It might not be too much longer before you have to fork over more cash to be able to stream movies and TV shows on the internet.
A federal court ruling may open that door.
this is basically all about bandwidth....which is the currency of the internet and internet providers have been pushing to change things for a while.
When you use up a lot of bandwidth downloading movies and streaming things online, your internet providers have to bare that cost.
It used to be that the F-C-C said to internet providers, that they can't discriminate between one website and another.
But now the court has struck down that idea...and that opens the door for internet providers to charge sites like Netflix and hulu more money because streaming their content takes up more bandwidth.
So the idea is that soon, providers will give faster access to the companies that pay more.
think of it like the fast lane on the highway, but it's a toll road.
You can already see this when you travel- wifi networks on planes generally won't allow you to stream movies.
And even some hotels ban it from their wifi hotspots.

yeah, this is the whole net neutrality fight that's been going on for years

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by wormraper

yeah, this is the whole net neutrality fight that's been going on for years

Means I definitely need to use Netflix while I still can, hoping the prices don't spike before that week in April when I get to go on a Netflix marathon for about 7 days.

[slick1ru2]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/01...es/What-s-next


It ain't over yet, Net Neutrality.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/01...es/What-s-next


It ain't over yet, Net Neutrality.

No, but the fat lady is clearing her throat!

[raygendreau]

Netflix up 212% last year. Earnings expected to quadruple. Earnings will be reported tomorrow 22 Jan. 2014.

"Optimism surrounds Netflix, as it gets ready to report its fourth quarter results on Wednesday, January 22, 2014. Analysts are expecting the company to book a profit of 65 cents a share, up from 13 cents a year ago.

The consensus estimate is up from three months ago when it was 47 cents, but hasn't changed over the past month. For the fiscal year, analysts are projecting earnings of $1.74 per share. Revenue is expected to be $1.17 billion for the quarter, 24% higher than the year-earlier total of $945.2 million. For the year, revenue is projected to come in at $4.37 billion."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/narrativ...ected-to-rise/