Netflix Turns Focus Back to Disc

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

Usually the only people that have an actual beef against it are format fanboys; not actual film lovers. For the rest of us streaming co-exists right along with the theater, blu-ray, dvd, and cable & satellite. Anyone that would say something is not worth watching just because it is not on blu-ray is clearly a format fan; not a film fan. There are many great films, especially indie films, that have not been released on blu-ray and likely never will.

I think this pretty much sums it up for me...once again!! I don't understand why every time a streaming topic pops up it turns into a pissing contest with some folks. You don't like streaming, we get it. You've stated your case, move on already.

Originally Posted by punkguy03

Where did you hear that you can put 6 devices on each account? I was wondering if two people can watch from the same account at once, does anyone know? I just have the unlimited streaming option too btw. thanks guys

Back on topic. I cannot for the life of me find it on the site, but you can use up to 6 different devices on 1 account. I currently have mine set up on both BD players, my 55" LG FP and the wife and I's iPhone's. So yes, you and others who have access to your account can watch with whatever device that has been activated. Unfortunately you can't set up seperate ques, which I'd love for me, my wife and my son's shows. Hopefully that is something they'll set up down the road.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Back on topic. I cannot for the life of me find it on the site, but you can use up to 6 different devices on 1 account. I currently have mine set up on both BD players, my 55" LG FP and the wife and I's iPhone's. So yes, you and others who have access to your account can watch with whatever device that has been activated. Unfortunately you can't set up seperate ques, which I'd love for me, my wife and my son's shows. Hopefully that is something they'll set up down the road.

From Netflix:

Q :Can I watch movies instantly on more than one PC or Netflix-ready device?
A :Some membership plans allow you to watch simultaneously on more than one personal computer or Netflix-ready device. If you are on the Watch Instantly Unlimited plan or the 1-disc-out-at-a-time plan, you may watch only one device at a time. If you are on the 2-discs-out-at-a-time plan, you may watch on up to two devices at a time. Members on the 3-disc plan can watch on up to three devices. The maximum is four devices -- available for members on the 4-or-greater-discs-out-at-a-time plan. Your account can have up to six unique authorized devices activated (and associated with it) at any given time, including personal computers and Netflix-ready devices. For example, if you're on the 1-disc plan, you can have up to six devices associated with your account, but you can only watch one of them at a time. If you're on the 2-disc plan, you can have up to six devices activated but can only watch two of them at the same time.

[Steedeel]

The Donster, i think it is the opposite. People who like streaming just tend to be passive movie fans. Fans of the Bluray format love it so because it represents the closest possible image when comparing to the cinema. We see films as an event. For example, weekend, lights off home cinema time. Watch the latest film on a nice big screen with superb surround sound. Or even with good headphones if i am in the mood. Streaming is only really a passive experience which comes nowhere near the experience i have just described. Take The Dark Knight Rises for example. A film that should look stunning on bluray (especially the Imax scenes if there are any) I couldn't get the same experience from a far inferior technology like streaming. The softness, blurring and general lower fidelity would distract me. I want the best. what is wrong with that. To say i am a format fan rather than a film fan is silly. I have loved films from the age of five when i first went to the cinema. I have embraced VHS, DVD, Laserdisc and now Bluray. They were all PROGRESSIVE technology. Streaming is not, it is simply for lazy people who find it too much of an ordeal to rent a film from a store or wait for the disc through the post. Probably the same people that keep looking at their phones when they are watching a movie at the cinema.

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

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You only watch movies on blu-ray and you consider yourself a fan of film. What about all the wonderful foreign and indie films that do not get blu-ray releases, or the endless amount of movies that have not yet made it to blu-ray and many more that never will. Yet its those that take advantage of all these in what ever form available that are the passive film fans? I don't get the logic behind that statement.

Netflix just added all the startrek series, something that will never come to blu-ray, or if it does it will be as a cash grab. Now i can spend the thousands of dollars to watch it on dvd or spend 7.99 a month to watch them. The choice there is clear, or i could just never watch them again because now that blu-ray has become the best format, it no longer holds any entertainment value.

[Steedeel]

I watch dvd, cable and Bluray. It covers most bases.

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by rickah88

From Netflix:

Q :Can I watch movies instantly on more than one PC or Netflix-ready device?
A :Some membership plans allow you to watch simultaneously on more than one personal computer or Netflix-ready device. If you are on the Watch Instantly Unlimited plan or the 1-disc-out-at-a-time plan, you may watch only one device at a time. If you are on the 2-discs-out-at-a-time plan, you may watch on up to two devices at a time. Members on the 3-disc plan can watch on up to three devices. The maximum is four devices -- available for members on the 4-or-greater-discs-out-at-a-time plan. Your account can have up to six unique authorized devices activated (and associated with it) at any given time, including personal computers and Netflix-ready devices. For example, if you're on the 1-disc plan, you can have up to six devices associated with your account, but you can only watch one of them at a time. If you're on the 2-disc plan, you can have up to six devices activated but can only watch two of them at the same time.

So, I can have more then one activated, but unless I were to upgrade my plan I couldn't watch at the same time as say my girlfriend on a different device? That sucks.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by punkguy03

So, I can have more then one activated, but unless I were to upgrade my plan I couldn't watch at the same time as say my girlfriend on a different device? That sucks.

Don't shoot the messenger!

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Don't shoot the messenger!

Don't worry the gun is holstered. It does bug me tho. I also just read Tennessee passed a law making password sharing of netflix illegal.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by punkguy03

Don't worry the gun is holstered. It does bug me tho. I also just read Tennessee passed a law making password sharing of netflix illegal.

Wow, that's pretty harsh! Dare I ask what is the punishment for such a heinous crime? Not that I'm looking to share my password...or that I live in TN.

[Steedeel]

Some people on this forum need to wake up. Imagine if pay per byte internet is brought in. We will face a future of youtube quality films and discussions about grain structure and artistic merit will be a thing of the past. We will be lucky if we can even see backgrounds through all the compression.
Who is going tp be able to afford to watch a few hd films per week? Streaming really is a backwards technology and will only get worse because of internet restrictions in my opinion.

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Some people on this forum need to wake up. Imagine if pay per byte internet is brought in. We will face a future of youtube quality films and discussions about grain structure and artistic merit will be a thing of the past. We will be lucky if we can even see backgrounds through all the compression.
Who is going tp be able to afford to watch a few hd films per week? Streaming really is a backwards technology and will only get worse because of internet restrictions in my opinion.

How many places are restricting internet usage? Most places have at least one in there city that doesn't restrict usage in any way. In my state(Montana) they are unlimited except for like at&t and verizon (I think it has a cap). All the local companies and such are completely unlimited.

Although I do see your point, if internet is restricted(I don't think it will get to the extent you are talking about) then yes it would hurt the industry in a huge way, but again I don't think it will get to that point. Just my opinion.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by punkguy03

How many places are restricting internet usage? Most places have at least one in there city that doesn't restrict usage in any way. In my state(Montana) they are unlimited except for like at&t and verizon (I think it has a cap). All the local companies and such are completely unlimited.

Although I do see your point, if internet is restricted(I don't think it will get to the extent you are talking about) then yes it would hurt the industry in a huge way, but again I don't think it will get to that point. Just my opinion.

Just ask folks in Austrailia...I believe they have a wide area of internet usage caps.

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Just ask folks in Austrailia...I believe they have a wide area of internet usage caps.

You are correct, I have a friend from there. However, we aren't Australia, this is the same country that bans quite a few video games, they are pretty restrictive with a lot of things, despite being a "free country".

Just because Australia did it doesn't mean America will, although if we did I wouldn't be shocked or anything. I believe Australia doesn't have tons of internet providers like we do either. (Feel free to correct me on that)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by punkguy03

You are correct, I have a friend from there. However, we aren't Australia, this is the same country that bans quite a few video games, they are pretty restrictive with a lot of things, despite being a "free country".

Just because Australia did it doesn't mean America will, although if we did I wouldn't be shocked or anything. I believe Australia doesn't have tons of internet providers like we do either. (Feel free to correct me on that)

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for "unlimited"...but the wireless companies have already started placing caps on download limits. With the exception of Sprint(I think) as their new pitch is: Come with us, and have TRUE unlimited internet usage.
It's only a matter of time before big ISP's see this as a way to make more money. If I'm wrong and it doesn't happen in my lifetime(approx. another 50yrs ) then great!

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for "unlimited"...but the wireless companies have already started placing caps on download limits. With the exception of Sprint(I think) as their new pitch is: Come with us, and have TRUE unlimited internet usage.
It's only a matter of time before big ISP's see this as a way to make more money. If I'm wrong and it doesn't happen in my lifetime(approx. another 50yrs ) then great!

Are you saying wireless as in wi-fi? Like wi-fi vs. broadband may be different. I have my internet through a cable company and I don't have wifi just broadband and a wireless router, most of the caps I have seen are on wi-fi and not so much on broadband. It will be interesting to see what happens with all of this. I know the companies around here have already said they have no plans to place caps on anything, but then again they could always change there minds.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by punkguy03

Are you saying wireless as in wi-fi? Like wi-fi vs. broadband may be different. I have my internet through a cable company and I don't have wifi just broadband and a wireless router, most of the caps I have seen are on wi-fi and not so much on broadband. It will be interesting to see what happens with all of this. I know the companies around here have already said they have no plans to place caps on anything, but then again they could always change there minds.

I always look at life going in cycles....and when I get most "worried" is when things are TOO good, for TOO long! That's usually when the proverbial bubbles bursts. Good example: Netflix(others: dot.com start ups, housing market, etc)
But Netflix was basically a dream with its service plans...there was NO WAY it was going to stay that cheap. I'm surprised they kept those great rates as long as they did. I guess they could because they really got the jump on streaming and signed some cheap studio contracts early in the game. Now those contracts will expire next year...and all the "big boys" will be looking to spend from their full cofers(Amazon, Comcast, Microsoft). Hulu will probably be sold to one of them. The reason I'm mentioning all this, because this all pretty much started when Sony pulled their stream catalog from Netflix, due to a poor deal with Starz, see here:
http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/08/tech...ract/index.htm
Now, since I dropped streaming I don't really care about it...for now! How will this affect the disc sevice, going forward? That's my primary concern.

My only beef with Netflix is they HAVE to start building up their blu-ray library. Especially some of the smaller, independent titles. I have suggested to them that they incorporate some sort of "feedback" option on their dropdown menu, which currently only has DVD & Blu-ray. Why not add a third option, like: "Request Blu-ray" to that dropdown menu? This way they could gauge customer demand: easily, cheaply, & effectively!
In closing, next year should be a pretty interesting year for the online rental giant...we'll see if Netflix will still be "king of the hill" after new deals are made!

[slimdude]

Netflix price increase is not going to effect me at all because, I never did like the idea of streaming my movies in the first place, and the reason being is -

Number 1- The A/V quality is inferior, compared to the blu-ray counterparts, especially the audio.

Number 2 - I like having the disc, its original cover artwork, and case in my collection.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Do you wear a suit to cut the lawn? Why not, if it's not good enough for you to do work in, it must be trash. See where this is going?

that is a dumb post,
First being in IT I don't have to wear a suite and so I don't but at work there is a dress code and so I am forced to wear what is acceptable there, is there a home movie/TV watching code that tells me I have to watch badly over compressed content from Netflix on a 37" TV so that I don't think it looks like trash compared to BD instead of my projector.

As for mowing my lawn, I have a service for that, don't know where you live but here it is ~200$ for the season, it is not too hard to afford. So I don't mow my lawn

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Netflix price increase is not going to effect me at all because, I never did like the idea of streaming my movies in the first place, and the reason being is -

Number 1- The A/V quality is inferior, compared to the blu-ray counterparts, especially the audio.

Number 2 - I like having the disc, its original cover artwork, and case in my collection.

There are tons of people who feel the same way as you. I have streaming for one reason and that is tv shows. They have shows that are not available on dvd or blu-ray yet. My big example is always King of the Hill. It isn't available on dvd yet, except seasons 1-6. The quality isn't as bad as people act like it is. There are movies available in high def on netflix that are not available on blu yet and the quality is above that of the dvd counterparts. Despite what a lot of people on this forum would lead you to believe.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by punkguy03

Just because Australia did it doesn't mean America will, although if we did I wouldn't be shocked or anything. I believe Australia doesn't have tons of internet providers like we do either. (Feel free to correct me on that)

I don't think that there will be pay-per-bite like steedeel said, but Australia is just more advanced in this case and so you should not be dismissing them so easily. I think caps of some sort will definitely be in the future. Let me ask you this, have the number of companies in the US (or Canada) with caps increased or decreased, over the last few years. If they are increasing (which they are) why would you think that it can't get to the point where they all have caps of some sort? Now I prefer our way (want more, pay more) then the Australian way (used to much throttled down to practically dial up speeds) , but ask yourself why caps exist?

For the network provider upgrading the network costs $$$$$, caps are meant to curb demand so that the network can be upgraded a bit more slowly, if one company puts caps and some BW hog can't live with it, what happens they go to the other network (as you implied) but that means that Network A with caps becomes more profitable, while Network B without them becomes less profitable (i.e. more hogs means the network needs to increase faster and so spend $$$$$), eventually B needs to make a choice, install caps or increase cost to balance profitability.