Netflix Turns Focus Back to Disc

[Steedeel]

So, you watch your blurays on a pc as well?

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

So, you watch your blurays on a pc as well?

For Christ's sake. No, I watch them through a PS3 on my monitor. No PC is involved for Blu-ray or for Netflix. Address my argument about convenience instead of mentioning irrelevancies.

Here's a pro-tip: quote posts you're addressing.

[Steedeel]

There goes that word again. 'Convenience'. It is not convenient for me to watch artefact laden, third rate hd quality when i could be watching bluray.

I don't think your opinion is worthless, but i don't see how you can join a argument about quality when you do not have the tools at your disposal to make such a call.

[Steedeel]

I guess it comes down to standards and what we are willing to put up with for the sake of convenience.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

There goes that word again. 'Convenience'. It is not convenient for me to watch artefact laden, third rate hd quality when i could be watching bluray.

If you have the income to buy everything on BD that you want to watch, more power to you. Some of us have higher priorities than wasting thousands of dollars on nothing more than entertainment. You still didn't address anything I said about the convenience, like what it would cost to watch a long series using Blockbuster stores and how long it would take to watch it through Netflix's mail order. But hey, using logic means I'm lazy, right? Right?

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I don't think your opinion is worthless, but i don't see how you can join a argument about quality when you do not have the tools at your disposal to make such a call.

Sod off, moron.I can see that when saying Netflix streams are comparable to BD. That would be stupid to do, however. My arguments supporting streaming are from a convenience standpoint only and the drop in quality compared to overpriced discs is perfectly acceptable to me. For some reason you have a difficult time comprehending that.

Also note that I will never own a home theater because it's a massive waste of money for something so unimportant.

[Steedeel]

This forum has strong views and some of us occasionally overstep the mark. However, we are all adults and can take it. You have overstepped the line and made a personal attack rather than an attack on my tastes or preferences. You have no right to do that.
See, there are some of us that adore film. It is a huge passion in our life. Just as family, friends and wildlife/nature is a big part of my life. (but obviously more important)
That is why we are on this forum. We adore film and we adore a format that lets us experience such superb quality in our own homes.
Now calm down and i will discuss the matter further, if you are going to get too personal i will ignore your future posts.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

incorrect. The PS3's Netflix client says "X-High HD". Lost's stream is nearly flawless, though there is the occasional pixelation.

Oh, and this statement suggests to me you are arguing quality rather than convenience.

Making a statement about 'near flawless' quality when watching on a monitor simply does not make sense. no matter how wound up you get over it. I am simply stating a fact. It is like saying 'well it looks great on my black and white portable'. The discussion was about projectors and large screens not monitors.

[The_Donster]

Well, don't you think you have that coming SD? You've stepped over the line more times than anyone in this and several other threads in the forum. The more you talk the more you come off as a over privileged kid and, or a spoiled adult. While you are free to buy every BD released, some of us don't see the need. As others have pointed out, there are some great movies/series out there that may never get the BD treatment. Not to mention I don't see the need to have every BD out there. Which is why I use Netflix to watch the BD's I'm on the fence about or don't want to own. For streaming I use it mainly to catch up on shows, movies and PBS shows for my toddler. Clearly there is a niche that Netflix is filling. So it doesn't matter if you and others feel it is inferior or not. They aren't going anywhere soon. Regardless, you and some others have made your point. If you are so confident in your arguments, why do you keep beating it into the ground? Doesn't speak for your cause when you have to keep doing that in multiple threads

[Steedeel]

Don't make presumptions about me. I work for every penny i spend. I have a good job but i work for it. OK?

[The_Donster]

I'm not making presumptions about anything. You've painted a nice picture all by yourself

[Steedeel]

You have painted a picture of someone who has joined a bluray forum and then slates people for defending the format and informing people of facts. Facts they cannot handle. Oh, and it takes a lot more than patronizing smilies to wind me up. Nice try though!

[carios23]

Already canceled my Netflix account. That raise on prices was unacceptable. When their extremely weak streaming service was cheap, it was worth it. But, I wont pay extra for that much less considering they don't always have all released blu-rays

[bkbluray]

Originally Posted by carios23

Already canceled my Netflix account. That raise on prices was unacceptable. When their extremely weak streaming service was cheap, it was worth it. But, I wont pay extra for that much less considering they don't always have all released blu-rays

+1 I haven't been a Netflix subscriber for over a year, and now most likely won't go back. From what I've heard, the availability on titles is not very good (Blu-ray rentals that is).

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Oh, and this statement suggests to me you are arguing quality rather than convenience.

Making a statement about 'near flawless' quality when watching on a monitor simply does not make sense. no matter how wound up you get over it. I am simply stating a fact. It is like saying 'well it looks great on my black and white portable'. The discussion was about projectors and large screens not monitors.

I will clarify. "Near flawless" wasn't meant as a comparison to Blu-ray. I meant that it was almost completely free of artifacting, which is a severe problem with many, many streams. Lost looks outstanding but it will look better on a less-compressed disc.

Now, the big screen issue is really funny, because people who own them fall into the marketing ploy that big is better, even though pixels are larger and more problems are evident. I can only imagine how bad Black Swan looks on a 60" screen with all of the grain due to the camera used. It looks disgusting on my 25.5" screen!

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Oh, and this statement suggests to me you are arguing quality rather than convenience.

Making a statement about 'near flawless' quality when watching on a monitor simply does not make sense. no matter how wound up you get over it. I am simply stating a fact. It is like saying 'well it looks great on my black and white portable'. The discussion was about projectors and large screens not monitors.

I will clarify. "Near flawless" wasn't meant as a comparison to Blu-ray. I meant that it was almost completely free of artifacting, which is a severe problem with many, many streams. Lost looks outstanding but it will look better on a less-compressed disc, obviously.

Now, the big screen issue is really funny, because people who own them fall into the marketing ploy that big is better, even though pixels are larger and more problems are evident. I can only imagine how bad Black Swan looks on a 60" screen with all of the grain due to the camera used. It looks disgusting on my 25.5" screen!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

I will clarify. "Near flawless" wasn't meant as a comparison to Blu-ray. I meant that it was almost completely free of artifacting, which is a severe problem with many, many streams. Lost looks outstanding but it will look better on a less-compressed disc, obviously.

Now, the big screen issue is really funny, because people who own them fall into the marketing ploy that big is better, even though pixels are larger and more problems are evident. I can only imagine how bad Black Swan looks on a 60" screen with all of the grain due to the camera used. It looks disgusting on my 25.5" screen!

Oh dear. You really don't get it do you?

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

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Oh dear. You really don't get it do you?

Hmmm, that's like the pot calling the kettle black!

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

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Oh dear. You really don't get it do you?

Explain what I'm not getting instead of making spam posts. Stop with the condescension.

[Steedeel]

Grain is a part of film. If the film looks rough, that is what the director intended. If it looks like the director intended that is exactly what bluray fans want. Every film has its own beauty no matter how it was shot. As long as the grain is handled correctly the picture quality will shine. Moaning about grain proves that you know very little about the art of film. Now please don't fly off the handle, but you really are robbing yourself of the beauty of bluray on a 25 inch monitor.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Grain is a part of film. If the film looks rough, that is what the director intended. If it looks like the director intended that is exactly what bluray fans want. Every film has its own beauty no matter how it was shot. As long as the grain is handled correctly the picture quality will shine. Moaning about grain proves that you know very little about the art of film.

Oh, that. Of course I'm aware of that. How could i not be? Grain is acceptable to me in small does, but that wasn't the case with Black Swan. there are moments when the grain takes away the definition. I hate that Aronofsky used 16mm and that's why I won't buy the BD.

Now we can get back on topic.