Netflix Turns Focus Back to Disc

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Anyone else receive this email from Netflix after cancelling streaming? I was billed correctly for the disk only option on the 18th.

We're sorry you had trouble watching instantly

Dear ray,

Recently you may have had trouble instantly watching movies or TV episodes due to a technical issue on our end.

We are sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused. If you attempted and were unable to instantly watch TV episodes or movies yesterday, click on this account specific link in the next 7 days to apply a 3% credit to your next billing statement for your $7.99 a month Unlimited Streaming plan. Credit can only be applied once.

Ready to start watching again? Browse our selection.

Again, we apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. If you need further assistance, please call us at 1-866-923-0898.

–The Netflix Team

A BD that was shipped to me on the 15th, still hasn't arrived. I reported it missing yesterday. I'm beginning to think they don't want my business. I'll give them one more month. In the meantime, VUDU is my choice for streaming. I watched one of the 99 cent movies in HDX yesterday. 5.1 audio is better than Netflix which has very few movies with 5.1.

I didn't cancel my streaming, however i have received that e-mail a few times. I got some credit on my account with the e-mail, basically it means netflix was having some issues (possibly just in your area) and they offer you a couple bucks in credit as an apology.

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

But regardless of all that, even if streaming services were better and cheaper here, I would still choose to walk up to blockbuster, because it gets me out of the house and can use the time to have a good conversation with my fiancee, that's worth a few extra dollars too me. Plus I like to buy snacks or alcohol sometimes if I don't have any, I really enjoy having a bourbon or beer and some nibbles while watching movies.

Im in total agreement on you with that, i also prefer the "experience" of a movie store or theatre over streaming/redbox etc..., was just stating that "convenience" of these services does go beyond simply not wanting to get your fat butt of the couch to grab a disc, although for some i am sure that is a selling point . I personally am glad to see that my local blockbuster is still in business, and will hopefully stay that way. While i do plan on getting netflix soon, i am guessing it will be more on a month here and a month there basis much like i do with blockbusters in store movie pass as its a cheaper option to get caught up on stuff when i find the time.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I'm really wasting time with you here...as you can't see the forest from the trees!

the expression is can't see the forest for the trees and that is what is happening with you. It is perfectly reasonable that someone can’t see the forest from the trees (i.e. back to the forest)

Of course there's an obvious reason he wants to watch whatever content on whichever tv he decides...it's called personal preference!
Just because he watches it on a smaller screen does not make it trash...wow you are starting to sound elitist.

No man, that is the point, it is not a personal preference. Why does he not BD on the 37” TV? The answer is obvious, it looks good on the projector so why would he watch it on his small TV, why doesn’t he watch Netflix streaming on the projector since he has bought one to watch content on? The answer is simple IT LOOKS LIKE TRASH and he can’t stand it. My objection is why did he blast the other guy for admitting Netflix streaming looks like trash just because he wants to pretend it does not by watching the small screen in the home instead of the big one?

Of course the quaity of streaming is lesser, nobody is disputing that. You keep exlpaining things that are obvious: water = wet, fire = hot, etc.

but that is because people, like you, don't get it and others are liars, obviously anyone that has seen it knows Netflix streamingt looks bad but some people even though they are unwilling to watch it on their projector say that no one should admit it looks bad.

All this statement of yours tells me: He who has the world's best set up wins! Suppose, for example, YOU have a $40,000 set up(this means DON'T tell me what your actual setup is), the guy with a $100,000 setup could easily use your logic and say: AnthonyP's set is trash because, according to ME, his is smaller therefore it's inferior. Meanwhile, Netflix has over 23million subscribers, care to guess how many of them stream? I'd be willing to say quite a few...now are we going to breakdown their systems 1 by 1? Be my guest.


Hmmm, again with the elitist attitude. So in YOUR mind anyone with a 37" tv that streams Netflix should be considered a trash setup? Correct?
Yes, my analogies make total sense, it's just YOU refuse to understand them.
You mention steedeel, this is the guy that says dvd is better than netflix stream...are you ready to defend THAT cause as well? Sounds like you two are made for one another!

where did I say his set-up is trash? just because you are making up stuff don't pretend I said them.

Ah-hah, a total elitist statement...so my suspicions were correct! Just because someone HAS multiple viewing options and views content on whichever setup they want doesn't make the "lesser" option trash!

when you are forced to do so it is. You talk of choice, but where is the choice you speak of.

I have Directv and dvr shows all the time, some channels are ONLY available in SD. If I dvr that show on my HD dvr then send it to a SD tv to watch it there is that considered trash?

if you do it because it is unwatchable on the display you would rather use it is.

I would rather watch the "lesser" content on the "lesser" setup, as it won't look as good on the HD setup. It's, by no means, considered trash.
Now that I know you're such an elitist, I realize it's going to be impossible to explain any of this to you.

maybe that is because you are elitist, most of us can't afford to have multiple set-ups so that we can watch BD on a true big screen, OTA HD on a big screen, Dish HD on an medium screen, Dish SD on a small one and an itsy bitsy one just because Netflix looks like trash but we are not allowed to say it because the fanboys pick up the pitchforks and call you elitist.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

If you have the income to buy everything on BD that you want to watch, more power to you. Some of us have higher priorities than wasting thousands of dollars on nothing more than entertainment. You still didn't address anything I said about the convenience, like what it would cost to watch a long series using Blockbuster stores and how long it would take to watch it through Netflix's mail order. But hey, using logic means I'm lazy, right? Right?

I have a secret don't tell anyone

[Show spoiler] you can rent BDs and Netflix has an 8$ plan for disks it does not need to cost anything more then DL

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

I will clarify. "Near flawless" wasn't meant as a comparison to Blu-ray. I meant that it was almost completely free of artifacting, which is a severe problem with many, many streams. Lost looks outstanding but it will look better on a less-compressed disc.

near flawless should not be compared to BD or anything else you can buy. If something is near flawless it should be to the content as originally captured or created. As a student would you say your answers in an exam were near flawless if :

a) you had close to 100% and that is to what you are comparing your answer to? (comparing it to the right answer)
b) the highest mark in class was 85% and you where near there? (comparing it to BD)
c) you failed the exam but you were nearly at the passing grade and decided to use passing as your point of reference? (not knowing where you are and the divisions so I just used a universal one like passing)

Now, the big screen issue is really funny, because people who own them fall into the marketing ploy that big is better, even though pixels are larger and more problems are evident.

lol, we will see what you think later in life. Just the other day I ran into a friend/ex-co-worker/ex-boss, he is around 10 years older then me but back when we used to work together he had a similar attitude (big screen= waste of money). He was there last Thursday gushing how he loved his projector and did not know how he lived without it and blamed me for not talking him into getting one when we worked together.

You are right, the problems are more evident (but they exist no matter what size you watch which is the point that rickah88 can't understand) but the reason you watch a big screen is not for the possible problems, but for the image, and the same way problems might be more apparent so is what enriches the picture.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Yes, but surely you don't need to post about BD/DVD in a Netflix thread

why? Netflix does BD and DVD

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

Actually ping and latency are as important as DL speed in determining the quality you will get...

well ping is a tool that measures latency, but we agree on so little that I felt I needed to point out that I agree with this DL speed is not the only factor

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Yet again, you show your lack of knowledge! Yes this is a blu-ray FORUM, but what you keep posting in is a Netflix THREAD.

actually it is the Netflix disc threrad in the blu-ray news section of the BD forum.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

why? Netflix does BD and DVD

But that's not what he's talking about!

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

actually it is the Netflix disc threrad in the blu-ray news section of the BD forum.

Again, that is not what he is talking about. Try to keep up, please.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I have a secret don't tell anyone

[Show spoiler] you can rent BDs and Netflix has an 8$ plan for disks it does not need to cost anything more then DL

Do I really need to once again explain how goddamn long it would take to watch a 100+ episode TV series using discs through the mail? The post you quoted even mentions it! Holy Christ!

Originally Posted by Anthony P

lol, we will see what you think later in life. Just the other day I ran into a friend/ex-co-worker/ex-boss, he is around 10 years older then me but back when we used to work together he had a similar attitude (big screen= waste of money). He was there last Thursday gushing how he loved his projector and did not know how he lived without it and blamed me for not talking him into getting one when we worked together.

So? That's supposed to mean something? It's not my fault he wasted thousands for such a disposable hobby. If you were to walk into my residence five years from now, hell, even two years form now, you would not see a 60" screen or a stupid projector. There are more important things for my money to be spent on, like managing my chronic illness.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

Do I really need to once again explain how goddamn long it would take to watch a 100+ episode TV series using discs through the mail? The post you quoted even mentions it! Holy Christ!



So? That's supposed to mean something? It's not my fault he wasted thousands for such a disposable hobby.

JL,
Your'e wasting your time. AnthonyP is, clearly, one who likes to hear himself talk...in this case, type. He usually types a lenghty post with about 85% fluff that has no real bearing on the conversation. I guess as an elitist, that's his M.O.
Furthermore I like how yesterday he defended Steedeel(who finally gave up), but couldn't find the time in his elitist schedule to comment on any of his(Mr. Eel's) posts. Maybe they're in league together.
I think in AnthonyP's off-kilter mind he thinks he own the site simply by having joined before most(if not all) of the people on this thread.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

Do I really need to once again explain how goddamn long it would take to watch a 100+ episode TV series using discs through the mail? The post you quoted even mentions it! Holy Christ!

wouldn't that depend on how much free time you have?

So? That's supposed to mean something? It's not my fault he wasted thousands for such a disposable hobby. If you were to walk into my residence five years from now, hell, even two years form now, you would not see a 60" screen or a stupid projector. There are more important things for my money to be spent on, like managing my chronic illness.

First I wish you luck with your illness.

But now for your points

obviously, you know nothing, you don't need thousands for an FP set-up.
I don't get it, you said you are a student, when I was studying for my Bach and Masters I had very little money but eventually I got a good job and made more money. How do you know, except for possibly health wise, what the future will hold. On the other hand if you are PO because you can't/won't be able afford a 60" due to high medical bills how is that my or anyone else’s fault.

Simple question, if someone gave you a 60" TV (not that I am offering) would you accept it? If yes then it has nothing to do with it being a "marketing ploy"

[The_Donster]

^^Dude, you are talking out your ass. Does this forum have a ignore list like some of the other forums I belong to? Tucker, sounds like you've got bigger fish to fry than to keep explaining yourself to a couple of nimrods. For the life of me I can't understand why folks can't understand that they are limiting their viewing by watching strictly BD's?

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

wouldn't that depend on how much free time you have?

Due to recent surgery, I had to cancel my summer courses, resulting in almost three months of free time. Even with this free time, it is still inconvenient to watch a show like Lost on mail order because I like to watch 10-12 episodes a day. It would take me a week, possibly longer due to delays, to watch an entire season. That is not convenient.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

obviously, you know nothing, you don't need thousands for an FP set-up.
I don't get it, you said you are a student, when I was studying for my Bach and Masters I had very little money but eventually I got a good job and made more money. How do you know, except for possibly health wise, what the future will hold.

I know I won't buy one because I think it's a massive waste of money.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

On the other hand if you are PO because you can't/won't be able afford a 60" due to high medical bills how is that my or anyone else’s fault.

You aren't getting it. I have no desire to buy a large television.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

Simple question, if someone gave you a 60" TV (not that I am offering) would you accept it? If yes then it has nothing to do with it being a "marketing ploy"

Yes, but only to sell it and save the money for the future.

Thanks again for derailing the thread with irrelevancies that I thought were dropped after Steedeel left.

[Steedeel]

You guys cannot let it rest can you? Cant you manage one day without me? It would appear you are now targetting anthony to release your frustrations. While continually dropping me into conversations. We are not in league, we simply understand home cinema and understand the role highly compressed imagery plays in distracting us from the experience. Just because we set our sights high, you all seem to take offence at this. Including some people who really do not have a clue about home cinema. Now stop the name calling and admit i am right guys. Ok?

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You guys cannot let it rest can you? Cant you manage one day without me? It would appear you are now targetting anthony to release your frustrations. While continually dropping me into conversations. We are not in league, we simply understand home cinema and understand the role highly compressed imagery plays in distracting us from the experience. Just because we set our sights high, you all seem to take offence at this. Including some people who really do not have a clue about home cinema. Now stop the name calling and admit i am right guys. Ok?

Well, look who just (s)trolled back in.

[Steedeel]

Tucker summed it up when he talked about a passive experience. I don't view film that way so we are never going to agree are we?

There is a love of film from Anthony and myself as apposed to a passive audience like some of you guys so that is where the arguments come from.

To some people the idea of a good weekend is going out and drinking so much, that they cannot remember what they did. Maybe they spend upwards of sixty-seventy dollars on booze, food and taxis. They are bad the next day and only recover in time to go back to work on the Monday.

Now, this is the same group of people that spout things like' gee, i would not waste my money on films'!

My idea of a good weekend is see my family, go to a nice restaurant, maybe go to the cinema and/or watch my local football team and finally watch a new film on my home setup. So, film is a part of my life. i have done this for many years and cannot imagine not watching a film every weekend. That is not the average persons weekend. It is personal to me. So when people talk about a passive experience they are not 'getting it'. There will always be conflict between film lovers and people who see film as a way to pass a couple of hours. For me, there is no greater feeling (in terms of material things) than the excitement of watching a film i have been anticipating for months and months. It is not an 'elitist' attitude by me it is an attitude brought about by love of the format and the love of film in general. When i visited the cinema i dreamed of one day being able to watch films in equal or similar quality. That day has arrived and is the reason i own hundreds of discs. Now, i do not limit myself to just bluray. I just think streaming is inferior to even (UK) satellite HD. It is (in my opinion) a third rate technology that will never match the quality of a well encoded bluray. Just opinion, but an opinion that i am confident will prove correct.

So, that is to show you guys my angle, i am not trolling! I am also not accusing anyone of being a heavy drinker!!!!!! It was just an example that i used to demonstrate peoples silly attitudes sometimes.

[rickah88]

Speaking of Netflix disc, I was encouraged by the steady stream of Asian thriller BDs to arrive this week! I hope I can view this as a favorable sign that Netflix is, in fact, striving to boost their blu-ray disc supply...especially where foreign films are concerned.
Although I'm still waiting for then to add BSG Season 4 BD. How can they have the 2nd ½ of S4 on BD available, but not the first ½??

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

Due to recent surgery,

wish you a speady recovery

Even with this free time, it is still inconvenient to watch a show like Lost on mail order because I like to watch 10-12 episodes a day.

wow that is impressive. Don't take this the wrong way but are you stuck in bed?

It would take me a week, possibly longer due to delays, to watch an entire season. That is not convenient.

why is that not convenient to take a week to, hopeful, enjoy a season of a show? but wouldn't how long it takes depend on your package?

I know I won't buy one because I think it's a massive waste of money.

I did not tell you to buy one, you said projectors cost thousands, I was correcting that people can buy a new 1080p projector at around 1000$ and if 720p is enough then much lower then that. Most people think FP is expensive when , if you compare it to a big TV they tend to be cheaper, obviously there are also more expensive, feature rich models but the idea that it takes big $$$$$ for FP is completely wrong.

Thanks again for derailing the thread with irrelevancies that I thought were dropped after Steedeel left.

well I am not the one that decided to discus streaming in a Netflix disk thread
how to get the most out of Netflix BDs would fit in this thread.