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Old 09-03-2008, 09:40 PM   #5221
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Hey, look on the bright side, at least you get a trophy for doing that.
Actually, I did that one on purpose that day for the trophy - usually, it's just rotten luck with no reward.
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:42 PM   #5222
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Yeah, well, I lay down a lot of freakin' mines - getting blown up by them is just one of the hazards that go along with it.

Actually, it is annoying when I get blown up by my own mine (usually when I put one down and a Warhawk shoots a lightening gun is when my mines go off), but the thing I really hate it hitting my own airmine.


What ticks me off is I'm tossin 'nades to destroy the mines and I *should* be far enough away but the shockwave just catches me close enough and splat I go.


There's even a delay like I'm right on the line.
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:48 PM   #5223
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What ticks me off is I'm tossin 'nades to destroy the mines and I *should* be far enough away but the shockwave just catches me close enough and splat I go.


There's even a delay like I'm right on the line.
They REALLY need to fix the collision detection for mines. Its HORRIBLE. I will be a good 20 feet from a mine and it still goes off and kills me. Its VERY frustrating. Same with the air mines as well.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:08 PM   #5224
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Blu-Clan members, check the official page about the Rivalry trophy. Not the best option, but it appears it may be the only option.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:29 PM   #5225
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Blu-Clan members, check the official page about the Rivalry trophy. Not the best option, but it appears it may be the only option.
Its an option. Who knew it would be so freaking difficult to get a few people from each clan together lol.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:10 AM   #5226
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Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like they are ALWAYS put onto the crappier team? I wonder if it is related to joining mid-round, and the computer puts you onto the losing team.

It's somewhat irritating, especially when the teams are really bad, and don't play the games properly. I recently suffered through a few rounds of Zones where my team lost by 3,000+ points. My teammates are too busy flying around in Warhawks to do anything.

And then coincidentally when playing TDM, they go around taking bases, which theoretically is a good idea, so you force the opposing team to spawn from just a single area, making them easier to track down and kill, but that never happens.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:12 AM   #5227
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I think players are more likely to quit a losing side so that team will more often have less players.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:18 AM   #5228
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I think players are more likely to quit a losing side so that team will more often have less players.
Exactly! I'll be on a team and if the other team gets flag cap, etc. people will "team switch". Then, halfway through the game we'll be getting killed and I'll check the number of players and we have 5 while they have a full roster.

The 50 points for the "winning team" ribbon, really started all this.

So, what happens is, people switch teams or leave, then you either end up with no one on your team, or you spawn in to a team that is getting destroyed.

Sometimes, of course, you just end up on a cr@ppy team.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:19 AM   #5229
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Exactly! I'll be on a team and if the other team gets flag cap, etc. people will "team switch". Then, halfway through the game we'll be getting killed and I'll check the number of players and we have 5 while they have a full roster.

The 50 points for the "winning team" ribbon, really started all this.

So, what happens is, people switch teams or leave, then you either end up with no one on your team, or you spawn in to a team that is getting destroyed.

Sometimes, of course, you just end up on a cr@ppy team.
If thats the case then people are STUPID. You dont get that 50pt winning team ribbon unless you were on the winning team at the VERY start of a game.

I have won a lot of games where I come in mid round and I have never gotten the winning team ribbon. I have also switched teams a few times (just because I was getting annoyed by my HORRIBLE team) and when we won I never got that ribbon.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:37 AM   #5230
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I usually give up 50 pts to go to the losing team not because I can help them out (I can't) but because baseraping is GHEY, and I don't like to be a part of it...

Soon all that will be left to play this game are the so-called "Elites" and I'm sure they'll enjoy themselves and each other.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:45 AM   #5231
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I usually give up 50 pts to go to the losing team not because I can help them out (I can't) but because baseraping is GHEY, and I don't like to be a part of it...

Soon all that will be left to play this game are the so-called "Elites" and I'm sure they'll enjoy themselves and each other.
Probably.

I left the first time because I got tired of the home spawn camp (when one team owns all spawn points but the base).

It's such an easy fix, but it will never come.

And upon returning to the game this week, I can see I'll be leaving soon again.

Well, not just for that. Socom is coming.
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:59 AM   #5232
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If thats the case then people are STUPID. You dont get that 50pt winning team ribbon unless you were on the winning team at the VERY start of a game.

I have won a lot of games where I come in mid round and I have never gotten the winning team ribbon. I have also switched teams a few times (just because I was getting annoyed by my HORRIBLE team) and when we won I never got that ribbon.
They do it so they will most likely be on the "winning" team the next time around. Of course, when everyone does this, the teams get so uneven that it's all mixed up again on the next round.

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I usually give up 50 pts to go to the losing team not because I can help them out (I can't) but because baseraping is GHEY, and I don't like to be a part of it...

Soon all that will be left to play this game are the so-called "Elites" and I'm sure they'll enjoy themselves and each other.
I've suggest that when I'm on a team that is totally destroying another team. I suggest we let them get a zone back cause people are leaving. All I get are snickers or elitist comments, "Not my fault they suck!" - things like that.

I hate when one team just totally dominates. It's not fun. If I'm on the losing team, it sucks - if I'm on the winning team, I'm just bored. I don't mind losing, but I swear I keep spawning to teams were not one person flies a Warhawk and our team gets destroyed. It is amazing how many times I spawn into a game on the worst team ever. I've just lost count, and with the team switching it has become almost a lose, lose situation.

However, once in a while I get into those 30 minute CTF matches that are a constant back and forth all out war where, at the end of the game, no one scored a point. And at the intermission screen everyone says, "Good game, everybody". And I remember that Warhawk can be a lot of freakin' fun.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:17 AM   #5233
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Another question, a nice two-parter actually. First part, is Fallen Star worth $8? Is it used enough in rotations, or do you have to specifically try to hunt for a server using it? Second part, does anyone think Incog will eventually lower the prices of the expansions? I kind of doubt this, because the first one has been out for so long now, with no price drop.

I know that they put out the $16 upgrade pack that includes all 3, but I bought the first one when it came out, skipped the second, and now I'm debating on the 3rd, so the complete pack doesn't really save me anything.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:37 AM   #5234
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They do it so they will most likely be on the "winning" team the next time around. Of course, when everyone does this, the teams get so uneven that it's all mixed up again on the next round.



I've suggest that when I'm on a team that is totally destroying another team. I suggest we let them get a zone back cause people are leaving. All I get are snickers or elitist comments, "Not my fault they suck!" - things like that.

I hate when one team just totally dominates. It's not fun. If I'm on the losing team, it sucks - if I'm on the winning team, I'm just bored. I don't mind losing, but I swear I keep spawning to teams were not one person flies a Warhawk and our team gets destroyed. It is amazing how many times I spawn into a game on the worst team ever. I've just lost count, and with the team switching it has become almost a lose, lose situation.

However, once in a while I get into those 30 minute CTF matches that are a constant back and forth all out war where, at the end of the game, no one scored a point. And at the intermission screen everyone says, "Good game, everybody". And I remember that Warhawk can be a lot of freakin' fun.
I agree with what he said
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Another question, a nice two-parter actually. First part, is Fallen Star worth $8? Is it used enough in rotations, or do you have to specifically try to hunt for a server using it? Second part, does anyone think Incog will eventually lower the prices of the expansions? I kind of doubt this, because the first one has been out for so long now, with no price drop.

I know that they put out the $16 upgrade pack that includes all 3, but I bought the first one when it came out, skipped the second, and now I'm debating on the 3rd, so the complete pack doesn't really save me anything.
I love the new expansion. It took me a bit to get used to the jet packs (actually I am still learning, but getting better). But once you start thinking how to use it ( i catch myself running around walls, etc) it gets much more fun.
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:59 AM   #5236
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However, once in a while I get into those 30 minute CTF matches that are a constant back and forth all out war where, at the end of the game, no one scored a point. And at the intermission screen everyone says, "Good game, everybody". And I remember that Warhawk can be a lot of freakin' fun.
Absolutely agree, it's these occasional gems that keep me going despite all the frustration.

IMO Warhawk in its finer moments is simply the best game I have ever played.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:26 AM   #5237
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I played for a couple hours tonight. Every single game I was on the team that had 1 base. Lovely.

One time there were 8 Warhawks overhead just sitting there firing, yet I rolled out of the base and took 2 bases on my own, including the one by their flag. Sadly, no one else came and I decided to just sit in the corner firing rockets.

I did get the trophy where you have to kill someone with a .50 cal in a jeep and then use that same jeep to run someone over. I actually killed 5 people before dying--including a tank.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:37 AM   #5238
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I wonder if InCog could implement a dome-type shield (similar to the APC shield but bigger) over home base in certain situations? One that wouldn't allow any enemies (troop, vehicle, plane) to enter. I guess that would bring a host of other problems with it though?
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:14 AM   #5239
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They won't do anything.

They could help the problem by simply giving each side two spawn points (not right next to each other). This would at least split the onslaught and would give teams the ability to escape the spawn point.

So simple.

This has been a problem for quite some time so don't expect any real changes for the good.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:49 AM   #5240
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I played for a couple hours tonight. Every single game I was on the team that had 1 base. Lovely.

One time there were 8 Warhawks overhead just sitting there firing, yet I rolled out of the base and took 2 bases on my own, including the one by their flag. Sadly, no one else came and I decided to just sit in the corner firing rockets.
I don't get that either. I seem to be the only one smart enough to equip my knife and go through trees or over hills to go get a zone. I tell everyone to spawn to the new zone - and maybe one person does - before 6 Warhawks come with TOW missiles, cluster bombs and lightening guns (all for one person).

So, I sneak out again and take a zone. . . . and people stay back "defending" their base.

Many times, after taking a zone I'll go jump and hide in the rafters (cause I know it's a matter of seconds before tons of planes come.) They show up, take the zone back over and leave. I jump down, take it back over and then go hide back in the rafters. (Usually, one poor guy will spawn just long enough to get killed as the Warhawks arrive and they take it over thinking they got the zone taker). I jump down and take the zone back - rinse and repeat. Hehe. Makes me laugh that at the very least I'm making them scratch their heads.
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