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Pieter V · 02-20-2018, 03:56 PM

FYI - Disney joins the Dolby Vision party and releases Star Wars: The Last Jedi on the 4K disc.

Geoff D · 02-20-2018, 04:03 PM

And somewhere a HeatEquation is crying.

(I've used that line before but what the hell, the old ones are the best)

Dubstar · 02-20-2018, 05:10 PM

isn't the Disney acquisition with Fox going to hinder and squash HDR10+ potential and market exposure anyways? reminds me of the HD-DVD/bluray debacle.

PeterTHX · 02-20-2018, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieter V

FYI - Disney joins the Dolby Vision party and releases Star Wars: The Last Jedi on the 4K disc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And somewhere a HeatEquation is crying.

(I've used that line before but what the hell, the old ones are the best)

But he assured me that Disney had somehow rejected Dolby Vision on disc.

There was an Antonio Banderas gif and everything! (resurrecting my old joke)

TheSweetieMan · 02-20-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

And somewhere a HeatEquation is crying.

(I've used that line before but what the hell, the old ones are the best)

I literally just used it in the Dolby Vision thread.

Wait until he sees Fox drop out of the HDR10 alliance once the sale with Disney goes through.

alexanderg823 · 02-20-2018, 08:07 PM

writing has been on the wall for HDR10+ the whole time.

Reminds me exactly of Blu Ray vs HD DVD, where you had Blu Ray which was clearly the technical superior with better specs in every single way and with support from all of the studios except a couple of hold outs that were obviously being cut a paycheck from Toshiba/Microsoft to stay the execution.

To say DV hasn't had an awful start out of the gate might be disingenuous, but it doesn't seem like anyone gave up on it and it's finally hitting its stride.

Is Samsung really being THAT greedy about paying a dollar per tv sold for a DV license? With how bad their QLEDs are, a DV bullet point on the box might actually make some sales they wouldn't otherwise have. Nobody wants or cares about HDR10+ aside from the Samsung owners that are holding a lemon and want some better PQ in a FW update (nothing wrong with that).

PeterTHX · 02-20-2018, 09:11 PM

I had to wade through some pretty thick propaganda but...

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

Not sure why you people are surprised. "IT" was the last DV disc for WB. WB is all aboard the HDR10+ train now, as has been announced this past week.

WB then goes on to announce Justice League in DV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

Also, since Disney bought Fox, we know they will also be supporting HDR10+ now. This is why Disney never jumped on the DV-on-disc bandwagon.

Things are looking great for the superior format.

Disney announces Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the biggest title of the year so far, in DV. Nothing yet from Fox.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

Here is a guarantee that I want to put in writing, because I'm certain I will be right: by the end of 2018, there will be more HDR10+ discs than DV discs.

The momentum behind this format is unreal and unprecedented.

Unreal is right. As in not real.

At this rate there will be more Philips HDR format discs at the end of 2018.

legends of beyond · 02-20-2018, 09:24 PM

I wish HeatEquation wasn't banned. These past two weeks would have been awesome to see.

Dubstar · 02-21-2018, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I had to wade through some pretty thick propaganda but...

WB then goes on to announce Justice League in DV.

Disney announces Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the biggest title of the year so far, in DV. Nothing yet from Fox.

Unreal is right. As in not real.

At this rate there will be more Philips HDR format discs at the end of 2018.

even the arm wrestling to get Fox to release UHD's with Dolby Atmos with the first batch of discs missing all said mixes; Fox's belief and pigheadedness that HDR10+ will catch on seems like grasping at straws.

gkolb · 02-21-2018, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legends of beyond

I wish HeatEquation wasn't banned. These past two weeks would have been awesome to see.

Oh no you don't! Don't even think it. He got left behind because he earned it.

gkolb · 02-21-2018, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieter V

FYI - Disney joins the Dolby Vision party and releases Star Wars: The Last Jedi on the 4K disc.

Pieter, Is there currently even a list of HDR10+ titles avail on streaming?

The last thing I seem to have heard was the problems that still occurred at scene changes for playback with 10+ encoding. Process still in limbo?

Aidenag · 02-21-2018, 02:10 AM

Dolby vision discs, now 40 at my last count.. which puts them at i think over 10% of uhd. Hdr10+ is still at, drumroll........ ......... ZERO, which if my math is correct is 0% of uhd.

Heats gotta be fallin asleep crying at this point. If he wasn't banned, id offer up my dolby vision disc inserts for him to wipe those tears away. Im up to a dozen now with hell or high water this week.

Aidenag · 02-21-2018, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkolb

Pieter, Is there currently even a list of HDR10+ titles avail on streaming?

The last thing I seem to have heard was the problems that still occurred at scene changes for playback with 10+ encoding. Process still in limbo?

I believe amazon original shows are still it, and even then wasn't there some issue where it wasn't even 'real' 10+?

alexanderg823 · 02-21-2018, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubstar

even the arm wrestling to get Fox to release UHD's with Dolby Atmos with the first batch of discs missing all said mixes; Fox's belief and pigheadedness that HDR10+ will catch on seems like grasping at straws.

Nah, you think Fox actually cares about HDR10+?

All they see is a paycheck from Samsung. If Samsung's TV division wasn't hemorrhaging money due to their awful quality, they probably could have fit in a budget for paying off a few other studios too. Be thankful their QLEDs are so bad.

legends of beyond · 02-21-2018, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkolb

Oh no you don't! Don't even think it. He got left behind because he earned it.

But you have to admit, the total meltdown would have been amazing to see.

Geoff D · 02-21-2018, 02:32 PM

I still think Warners might well release stuff with HDR10+, insider 2themax reported that the current thinking is along the lines of getting that and DV onto the same disc (HDR10+ is NOT a materially different grade of the HDR10 material, just another payload of metadata) and if that happens then they might as well do it.

Aidenag · 02-22-2018, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I still think Warners might well release stuff with HDR10+, insider 2themax reported that the current thinking is along the lines of getting that and DV onto the same disc (HDR10+ is NOT a materially different grade of the HDR10 material, just another payload of metadata) and if that happens then they might as well do it.

That would be amazing if it indeed happens. Ive got no problem with 10+ so long as it doesnt come at the cost of dolby vision support. Samsung can have their fake meta data version for those who want it, and the rest of us can have the real deal. All parties win.

MisterXDTV · 02-22-2018, 12:10 PM

No problem for me... My TV and player only support standard HDR10....

Pieter V · 02-23-2018, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkolb

Pieter, Is there currently even a list of HDR10+ titles avail on streaming?

The last thing I seem to have heard was the problems that still occurred at scene changes for playback with 10+ encoding. Process still in limbo?

I have no title names but there should be 100 or so.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/12/...treaming-hdr10

TheSweetieMan · 03-19-2018, 10:00 PM

SAMSUNG has been deleting press releases pertaining to HDR10+ implementation to their 2016 sets.

02-20-2018, 03:56 PM	#281
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	FYI - Disney joins the Dolby Vision party and releases Star Wars: The Last Jedi on the 4K disc.

02-20-2018, 04:03 PM	#282
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	And somewhere a HeatEquation is crying. (I've used that line before but what the hell, the old ones are the best)

02-20-2018, 05:10 PM	#283
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29	isn't the Disney acquisition with Fox going to hinder and squash HDR10+ potential and market exposure anyways? reminds me of the HD-DVD/bluray debacle.

02-20-2018, 08:07 PM	#286
alexanderg823 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2016 Trading Score:12	writing has been on the wall for HDR10+ the whole time. Reminds me exactly of Blu Ray vs HD DVD, where you had Blu Ray which was clearly the technical superior with better specs in every single way and with support from all of the studios except a couple of hold outs that were obviously being cut a paycheck from Toshiba/Microsoft to stay the execution. To say DV hasn't had an awful start out of the gate might be disingenuous, but it doesn't seem like anyone gave up on it and it's finally hitting its stride. Is Samsung really being THAT greedy about paying a dollar per tv sold for a DV license? With how bad their QLEDs are, a DV bullet point on the box might actually make some sales they wouldn't otherwise have. Nobody wants or cares about HDR10+ aside from the Samsung owners that are holding a lemon and want some better PQ in a FW update (nothing wrong with that).

02-20-2018, 09:24 PM	#288
legends of beyond Special Member Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Aldome, Pluto II, Andromeda Galaxy 4K collection:33 Blu-ray collection:87	I wish HeatEquation wasn't banned. These past two weeks would have been awesome to see.

02-21-2018, 02:10 AM	#292
Aidenag Expert Member Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Seattle 4K collection:53 Blu-ray collection:775 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:25	Dolby vision discs, now 40 at my last count.. which puts them at i think over 10% of uhd. Hdr10+ is still at, drumroll........ ......... ZERO, which if my math is correct is 0% of uhd. Heats gotta be fallin asleep crying at this point. If he wasn't banned, id offer up my dolby vision disc inserts for him to wipe those tears away. Im up to a dozen now with hell or high water this week.

02-21-2018, 02:32 PM	#296
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	I still think Warners might well release stuff with HDR10+, insider 2themax reported that the current thinking is along the lines of getting that and DV onto the same disc (HDR10+ is NOT a materially different grade of the HDR10 material, just another payload of metadata) and if that happens then they might as well do it.

02-22-2018, 12:10 PM	#298
MisterXDTV Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008	No problem for me... My TV and player only support standard HDR10....

03-19-2018, 10:00 PM	#300
TheSweetieMan Banned Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:515 Blu-ray collection:515	SAMSUNG has been deleting press releases pertaining to HDR10+ implementation to their 2016 sets.

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