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cbb223 · 06-24-2018, 02:47 AM

The problem with HDR10+ is it's kind of late to the game. DV already has a ton of content (Apple TV has hundreds of titles and UHD discs are catching up) and the hardware is already out in the wild. I'm not upgrading all my gear again just to get HDR10+ unless it's a firmware update for the stuff I already have and that's doubtful. And if I had to choose between a TV with DV or one with HDR10+ I'd take the DV because of the aforementioned reasons.

nick4Knight · 06-24-2018, 06:45 AM

^^^

Yeah... HDR10+ is not a format war, though. It's like Dolby TrueHD was. It got totally shut out the market share expect a couple of studios invested in putting it on some of their discs, not all even. But not universally playable on all Blu-ray tech, similarly! ... Sometimes early adopter players/AVR only decoded or bitstreamed LPCM and lossy. So to act like it's not analogous would be disingenuous. To me, HDR10+ is UHD's Dolby TrueHD. It will be sparsely seen but not "irrelevant"

Aidenag · 06-24-2018, 07:58 AM

Everytime this thread pops back up, i get my hopes up that heats back for more. but alas, i think even he realized that 10+ lost the battle before it even entered the ring. Last i heard its still basically an amazon, lets call it exclusive, format....

Agent Kay · 06-24-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cbb223

The problem with HDR10+ is it's kind of late to the game. DV already has a ton of content (Apple TV has hundreds of titles and UHD discs are catching up) and the hardware is already out in the wild. I'm not upgrading all my gear again just to get HDR10+ unless it's a firmware update for the stuff I already have and that's doubtful. And if I had to choose between a TV with DV or one with HDR10+ I'd take the DV because of the aforementioned reasons.

DV was also very late to the HDR game, and has a thread especially for its issues on this very forum.

Geoff D · 06-24-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

DV was also very late to the HDR game, and has a thread especially for its issues on this very forum.

Not really, DV was there from the start in terms of HDR in and of itself (Dolby created PQ, remember) and Dolby Cinema EDR pre-dated UHD HDR as far as I know. It was getting it out there into devices and software in the home that was more challenging (though DV streams have been around for a good couple of years already) because it was a proprietary extension that needed paying for, and the dual-layer base + enhancement implementation that's a mandatory requirement for DV on UHD Blu added a great deal of complication.

Agent Kay · 06-24-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Not really, DV was there from the start in terms of HDR in and of itself (Dolby created PQ, remember) and Dolby Cinema EDR pre-dated UHD HDR as far as I know. It was getting it out there into devices and software in the home that was more challenging (though DV streams have been around for a good couple of years already) because it was a proprietary extension that needed paying for, and the dual-layer base + enhancement implementation that's a mandatory requirement for DV on UHD Blu added a great deal of complication.

Late to game at retail I meant.

legends of beyond · 06-24-2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aidenag

Everytime this thread pops back up, i get my hopes up that heats back for more. but alas, i think even he realized that 10+ lost the battle before it even entered the ring. Last i heard its still basically an amazon, lets call it exclusive, format....

Heat was banned, sadly. It would have been nice seeing him react to the HDR10+ meltdown, but alas, we shall never know.

Aidenag · 06-25-2018, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by legends of beyond

Heat was banned, sadly. It would have been nice seeing him react to the HDR10+ meltdown, but alas, we shall never know.

i know he was banned, wasnt his first time. Im just shocked he hasnt resurfaced.

Dubstar · 06-25-2018, 04:23 AM

shhh, just shut it, all of you... who knows, maybe someone from HDR10+ Technologies, LLC will actually think they will have a base of customers who will actually support their endeavours everytime we bump this thread ...

legends of beyond · 06-25-2018, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aidenag

i know he was banned, wasnt his first time. Im just shocked he hasnt resurfaced.

Ah, I see. Well, it would be nice if he did just to see what he'd say.

gkolb · 06-26-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by legends of beyond

Ah, I see. Well, it would be nice if he did just to see what he'd say.

OMG, be careful what you ask for.

Vangeli · 06-26-2018, 06:43 PM

"Free" but "Licensed"

Pieter V · 07-03-2018, 05:34 PM

Panasonic just released new firmware, which adds HDR10+ support.

- DP-UB420
- DP-UB424
- DP-UB820
- DP-UB824

Agent Kay · 07-03-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Panasonic just released new firmware, which adds HDR10+ support.

- DP-UB420
- DP-UB424
- DP-UB820
- DP-UB824

Boo was secretly hoping it would go back to the 900 and 700's

Pieter V · 08-23-2018, 09:02 AM

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Film production company Warner Bros. will also start creating HDR10+-compatible contents, which will be available for home distribution later this year. In addition to that, Samsung partnered with Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation to standardize the HDR10+ licensing process, in order to make it easier for content creators to realize its technology, get closer to filmmaker’s creative intent and improve the viewing experience for all audiences. Twentieth Century Fox is currently exploring several titles for release and plans to announce their availability in the coming weeks.

https://news.samsung.com/global/sams...-certification

Agent Kay · 08-23-2018, 09:25 AM

Interesting stuff, wonder what they will launch with as the year is trucking on.
X-men trilogy?

PeterTHX · 08-23-2018, 03:37 PM

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Film production company Warner Bros. will also start creating HDR10+-compatible contents, which will be available for home distribution later this year

I read this as streaming. So Amazon Prime will have HDR10+ WB content.

Geoff D · 08-23-2018, 05:18 PM

Yeah, when this was announced Warners said that they were going to add it to their existing HDR catalogue and there's no way no how they're going to re-release their entire catalogue of UHD discs, whereas appending HDR10+ to a stream is just appending the metadata to the existing mezzanine files.

Agent Kay · 08-23-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, when this was announced Warners said that they were going to add it to their existing HDR catalogue and there's no way no how they're going to re-release their entire catalogue of UHD discs, whereas appending HDR10+ to a stream is just appending the metadata to the existing mezzanine files.

Did DV studios re-release discs with DV on them?

Geoff D · 08-23-2018, 05:21 PM

Is that another of Mike's Rhetorical Questions?

06-24-2018, 02:47 AM	#361
cbb223 Senior Member Member since:Jul 2011 Location:PA, USA 4K collection:207 Blu-ray collection:1077 DVD collection:8 iTunes collection:831 Trading Score:66	The problem with HDR10+ is it's kind of late to the game. DV already has a ton of content (Apple TV has hundreds of titles and UHD discs are catching up) and the hardware is already out in the wild. I'm not upgrading all my gear again just to get HDR10+ unless it's a firmware update for the stuff I already have and that's doubtful. And if I had to choose between a TV with DV or one with HDR10+ I'd take the DV because of the aforementioned reasons.

06-24-2018, 06:45 AM	#362
nick4Knight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Perth, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:386 Blu-ray collection:716	^^^ Yeah... HDR10+ is not a format war, though. It's like Dolby TrueHD was. It got totally shut out the market share expect a couple of studios invested in putting it on some of their discs, not all even. But not universally playable on all Blu-ray tech, similarly! ... Sometimes early adopter players/AVR only decoded or bitstreamed LPCM and lossy. So to act like it's not analogous would be disingenuous. To me, HDR10+ is UHD's Dolby TrueHD. It will be sparsely seen but not "irrelevant"

06-24-2018, 07:58 AM	#363
Aidenag Expert Member Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Seattle 4K collection:53 Blu-ray collection:775 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:25	Everytime this thread pops back up, i get my hopes up that heats back for more. but alas, i think even he realized that 10+ lost the battle before it even entered the ring. Last i heard its still basically an amazon, lets call it exclusive, format....

06-25-2018, 04:23 AM	#369
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29	shhh, just shut it, all of you... who knows, maybe someone from HDR10+ Technologies, LLC will actually think they will have a base of customers who will actually support their endeavours everytime we bump this thread ...

06-26-2018, 06:43 PM	#372
Vangeli Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2017 Location:Maine, US Trading Score:3	"Free" but "Licensed"

07-03-2018, 05:34 PM	#373
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	Panasonic just released new firmware, which adds HDR10+ support. - DP-UB420 - DP-UB424 - DP-UB820 - DP-UB824

08-23-2018, 09:25 AM	#376
Agent Kay Banned Member since:May 2018 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:57	Interesting stuff, wonder what they will launch with as the year is trucking on. X-men trilogy?

08-23-2018, 05:18 PM	#378
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Yeah, when this was announced Warners said that they were going to add it to their existing HDR catalogue and there's no way no how they're going to re-release their entire catalogue of UHD discs, whereas appending HDR10+ to a stream is just appending the metadata to the existing mezzanine files.

08-23-2018, 05:21 PM	#380
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Is that another of Mike's Rhetorical Questions?

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