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Old 07-06-2013, 12:12 PM   #1701
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:29 PM   #1702
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Does anybody know if Pineapple Express will be the "Unrated Special Edition"?
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:47 PM   #1703
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Unlikely. The current of coarse of these releases, have been theatrical cuts only, (that extends to Spider-Man 2).
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:29 PM   #1704
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@Sky_Captain do you have a Blu-ray drive in your PC, to take some caps?
And what's your opinion on Spider-Man 2?
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:00 PM   #1705
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No, I don't have a blu-ray drive, unfortunately.

Resolution is greatly improved, sharpening artifacts are gone. However, the colour palette is completely different. Contrast is also hotter, resulting in crushed blacks here and there,(but oddly in this shot, the contrast looks worse in the older release).

These are pulled from a smartphone and won't show any real differences in detail, but you can see the other changes.

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Old 07-06-2013, 02:07 PM   #1706
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I wants it!!
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:23 PM   #1707
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Any chance we get Bram Stokers Dracula in 4k. I have been holding out hoping it will happen since there was a superbit DVD back in the day.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:31 PM   #1708
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Men in Black is roughly the same improvement wise, as the first Spider-Man.

Detail and overall resolution is improved, with some sharpening remaining.

However,a soft and ugly-assed movie, MiB remains.
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:32 PM   #1709
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Thanks for the quick photo. Waiting for reviews.
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:46 PM   #1710
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Men in Black is roughly the same improvement wise, as the first Spider-Man.

Detail and overall resolution is improved, with some sharpening remaining.

However,a soft and ugly-assed movie, MiB remains.
A bit odd some sharpening is still present on MiB.
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:03 PM   #1711
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No, I don't have a blu-ray drive, unfortunately.

Resolution is greatly improved, sharpening artifacts are gone. However, the colour palette is completely different. Contrast is also hotter, resulting in crushed blacks here and there,(but oddly in this shot, the contrast looks worse in the older release).

These are pulled from a smartphone and won't show any real differences in detail, but you can see the other changes.

Mastered in 4K


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WOW! the mad 90s transfer pink crap has gone!

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Any chance we get Bram Stokers Dracula in 4k. I have been holding out hoping it will happen since there was a superbit DVD back in the day.
Zoetrope control the master, never say never but I doubt it.
I made a version with the HDTV master, Criterion commentary track, and Superbit DTS audio personally

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Men in Black is roughly the same improvement wise, as the first Spider-Man.

Detail and overall resolution is improved, with some sharpening remaining.

However,a soft and ugly-assed movie, MiB remains.
It was always ugly but would like to see the improvements, the sharpening is odd as they used VV for effects shots
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:36 PM   #1712
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Quote:
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No, I don't have a blu-ray drive, unfortunately.

Resolution is greatly improved, sharpening artifacts are gone. However, the colour palette is completely different. Contrast is also hotter, resulting in crushed blacks here and there,(but oddly in this shot, the contrast looks worse in the older release).

These are pulled from a smartphone and won't show any real differences in detail, but you can see the other changes.

Mastered in 4K


Original Transfer
The new transfer looks mighty fine. Highlight clipping has been eliminated, the colour timing looks better, the framing seems to be quite different as well with less image on the left hand side but more image on the right hand side. There also appears to be more picture information on the top of the image too.

Would you be able to possibly do a similar comparison with MIB please if you don't mind?
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:56 PM   #1713
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MiB shows absolutely no differences via camera shots, as the colour and contrast are virtually identical.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:59 PM   #1714
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WOW! the mad 90s transfer pink crap has gone!
That's just what I was thinking. I remember seeing caps of an open-matte HDTV version a while ago and the colour didn't have that awful pink tinge and it looked so much better. I'm glad to hear that the new transfer has also done away with the pink! I'm off to order it right now.

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A bit odd some sharpening is still present on MiB.
Not if it's part of the original effects work. Spider-Man still has some ringing, even on the new transfer because it's baked in to the image. Same goes for Charlie's Angels Full Throttle, which had an early-ish DI and the Blu-ray is full of contrasty edge halos which is EXACTLY what I saw in the theater in 2003.
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That's just what I was thinking. I remember seeing caps of an open-matte HDTV version a while ago and the colour didn't have that awful pink tinge and it looked so much better. I'm glad to hear that the new transfer has also done away with the pink! I'm off to order it right now.


Not if it's part of the original effects work. Spider-Man still has some ringing, even on the new transfer because it's baked in to the image. Same goes for Charlie's Angels Full Throttle, which had an early-ish DI and the Blu-ray is full of contrasty edge halos which is EXACTLY what I saw in the theater in 2003.
McG filtered the crap out of Angels too, that ain't going nowhere plus the awful sky replacement that ruined many shots
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:37 AM   #1716
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No, I don't have a blu-ray drive, unfortunately.

Resolution is greatly improved, sharpening artifacts are gone. However, the colour palette is completely different. Contrast is also hotter, resulting in crushed blacks here and there,(but oddly in this shot, the contrast looks worse in the older release).

These are pulled from a smartphone and won't show any real differences in detail, but you can see the other changes.

Mastered in 4K


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I'm confused, are those images mislabeled lol. The top one looks much worse than the bottom
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:51 AM   #1717
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It's possible that it could be sourced from the Laserdisc.

That just shows how the HD master is.
Perhaps, it would explain the same scenes and frames being directly effected by EE despite EE being a general common practice amongst all older transfers.

For the record the LD looks terrific for LD standards and the DVD looks great for DVD standards, haven't seen the Blu but considering it was an early release with the format having come so far over the last 3 or so years, I'm assuming its disappointing for Blu-Ray standards despite still being better then the other 2.
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That is a HUGE change in the framing compared to the slight opening or narrowing at the tops and bottoms that we've seen with the other remasterings.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:59 AM   #1719
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As long as the pinky magenta hue is gone, some reframing (which is always a slightly loose concept for a Super 35 show) won't bother me.

These aren't caps of the M4K disc, but they really show up the awful timing of the current version. http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...less=0#auswahl
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As long as the pinky magenta hue is gone, some reframing (which is always a slightly loose concept for a Super 35 show) won't bother me.

These aren't caps of the M4K disc, but they really show up the awful timing of the current version. http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...less=0#auswahl
Aunt May looks sunburnt lol

I had no idea that Spider-Man 2 was shot Super 35. Wasn't Spider-Man 3 shot on Super 35 as well?

Are the full frame TV broadcasts for both films Open Matte?
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