Anyone have any idea when Sony will update their TV's with Dolby Vision

[tkdkid717]

They're certainly taking their time, aren't they?

[tkdkid717]

Sony - BRAVIA - 4K HDR TV with Dolby Vision™ - YouTube

This has been up for a month and still no update.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by tkdkid717

This has been up for a month and still no update.

Drat !

[Robert Zohn]

I spent a lot of time at Sony's booth and private meeting/demo rooms and had great candid conversations. In regard to Sony's Dolby Vision firmware upgrade for TVs equipped with the X1 Extreme processor is now completed. Sony, being the premium quality company they are is in the process of thoroughly testing the update to ensure it works properly and does not cause any issues.

No date for the roll-out, but it is coming and is expected to perform meticulously to all of the technological features that Dolby Vision's HDR dynamic metadata has to offer.

[gkolb]

Robert, as always, thanks for the insider detective work and update for us members.

[Geoff D]

We'll get it when it's ready, and not a moment before. That said there are bound to be some real-world operational issues that not even the most diligent lab people can uncover, there always are, but hopefully no major boo-boos.

Makes me laugh to think of Sony using an OPPO or LG as the player when testing the TVs, though. I mean they'll likely have a means of playing back a DV signal using whatever black box of goodies they get from Dolby but even so, they can't let it go out to the public without testing it using consumer playback hardware...or can they?

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

We'll get it when it's ready, and not a moment before. That said there are bound to be some real-world operational issues that not even the most diligent lab people can uncover, there always are, but hopefully no major boo-boos.

Makes me laugh to think of Sony using an OPPO or LG as the player when testing the TVs, though. I mean they'll likely have a means of playing back a DV signal using whatever black box of goodies they get from Dolby but even so, they can't let it go out to the public without testing it using consumer playback hardware...or can they?

You know my rig, hope their using an Oppo for at least SOME of the testing.
They might have something for 2018 of theirs to use, but it's not field tested yet, so no sea-legs on their own spinner if it exists. Best to just use an Oppo.

[Robert Zohn]

Yes, they test streaming from all DV content sources, all DV capable BD players, hard drive content they have, DV signal generators and test patterns and one TV is at Dolby HQ for even more engineering testing.

[tkdkid717]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Yes, they test streaming from all DV content sources, all DV capable BD players, hard drive content they have, DV signal generators and test patterns and one TV is at Dolby HQ for even more engineering testing.

Hey there Robert. So with all of this this testing, do you have any sort of estimate for when we should see Dolby Vision added? With the Apple TV 4k coming out, I am more excited/inpatient than ever. Have you heard any rumblings of any dates aside from the broad "end of the year" response?

[tkdkid717]

So shouldn't we have the update about now or at least have heard something? We're in that "end of the year" window.

[Geoff D]

If it happens this side of 2017 I will be amazed.

[mar3o]

I think it's a major disappointment that the x800 player wasn't designed to handle Dolby Vision. It was a very short-sighted decision. At least it could have contained the necessary hardware, so that a firmware update at some point could add the feature, like some other players are doing now.

[JohnTheFisherman33]

Just translated this from an Italian article

"The wait is almost over: Sony will soon announce the arrival of Dolby Vision on some of its TVs. The new firmware, announced for a long time, should come close. An official announcement is expected in December. Supported models are the same as those already confirmed. So let's talk about the TVs with the 4K HDR X1 Extreme processor. Support should include all available sources, including Streaming (Dolby Vision is supported by Netflix in Italy) and Ultra HD Blu-ray."

Finnnnnalllllyyyy

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Makes me laugh to think of Sony using an OPPO or LG as the player when testing the TVs, though. I mean they'll likely have a means of playing back a DV signal using whatever black box of goodies they get from Dolby but even so, they can't let it go out to the public without testing it using consumer playback hardware...or can they?

I get the idea of your post but this wouldn't be something they decided to do just 4 months ago. They likely have their own x800 on versions not available to the public that will play DV but any company would be silly to offer something to the public that hasn't been tested with some of the competitors equipment.

I prefer to wait and get a good update instead of one that screws the tv. Luckily I am interested but I am not itching to have DV, I am happy with regular HDR working properly.

[Maverick1776]

I think Sony is taking a break and watching what happens with the market.
Sony tried to push 4K content using a 4K box that you would download movies to from sonys website. Being the 1st company to do that before anyone else, the box didnt really take off. It was about $800 at launch. Came with spiderman of course...... and a few other movies. Then 4K UHD discs came along. 3D is dying. Now HDR & Dolby Vision are the new thing that add extra flare to 4K. I dont think either company is going to side with just one option.
Its like DTS vs Dolby. Both will always be around. In my honest opinion, Dolby Atmos kicks serious butt. I'm loving the fact that Disney is finally seeing the benefit of Atmos. They have always been a supporter of DTS MA during the blu-ray generation.

As for Sony, I own their X800 player and love it. Maybe they will push a firmware to make it Dolby Vision friendly. Maybe not. But honestly, with some calibration, you can bring HDR to look like Vision depending on the equipment you have.

[Aidenag]

Originally Posted by Maverick1776

I think Sony is taking a break and watching what happens with the market.
Sony tried to push 4K content using a 4K box that you would download movies to from sonys website. Being the 1st company to do that before anyone else, the box didnt really take off. It was about $800 at launch. Came with spiderman of course...... and a few other movies. Then 4K UHD discs came along. 3D is dying. Now HDR & Dolby Vision are the new thing that add extra flare to 4K. I dont think either company is going to side with just one option.
Its like DTS vs Dolby. Both will always be around. In my honest opinion, Dolby Atmos kicks serious butt. I'm loving the fact that Disney is finally seeing the benefit of Atmos. They have always been a supporter of DTS MA during the blu-ray generation.

As for Sony, I own their X800 player and love it. Maybe they will push a firmware to make it Dolby Vision friendly. Maybe not. But honestly, with some calibration, you can bring HDR to look like Vision depending on the equipment you have.

Yeah, if your pausing the movie and doing adjustments scene by scene you could i guess. But who would do that? Thats the thing dolby has over hdr is the metadata to adjust by scene as needed. Hdr10+ will be doin same thing with hdr10 dying off pretty quick is my guess. Hopefully everyone, sony users included get firmware updates to make their hdr10 only gear not go obsolete. Its my only worry now as an oled owner is will the lg oleds get hdr10+ update as id hate to have a tv purchased 6 months ago as future proof, no longer be that. Though im guessin won't be a problem since hdr10+ is basically a dv clone.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by cochon

I get the idea of your post but this wouldn't be something they decided to do just 4 months ago. They likely have their own x800 on versions not available to the public that will play DV but any company would be silly to offer something to the public that hasn't been tested with some of the competitors equipment.

I prefer to wait and get a good update instead of one that screws the tv. Luckily I am interested but I am not itching to have DV, I am happy with regular HDR working properly.

I'm not sure where you're getting the 4 months thing from, I know that this was announced last January at CES. Unless you're referring to the timescale of the actual DV compatible players coming to market? As I said in the quote, they will have been given plenty of gear by Dolby themselves to test & trigger the DV output, even we mere mortals can buy something like a Murideo signal generator which does that so I doubt that they'd have bothered doing an in-house DV version of their own player. Even the demo clips that were shown to journos recently were played off a USB drive.

[stigdu]

As a bit of a Sony fan (I've loved everything Sony I've ever bought, bar a walkman I had 30 years ago which occasionally chewed up tapes) I'm really looking forward to what DV-capable TVs they can bring to the consumer table, especially if they're comparable in price/spec to the LG OLEDs.

I don't have a 4k TV, but having waited this long, I don't see another 5 or 6 months hurting.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Yes, they test streaming from all DV content sources, all DV capable BD players, hard drive content they have, DV signal generators and test patterns and one TV is at Dolby HQ for even more engineering testing.

Any idea when Sony will have a Dolby Vision UHD Blu-ray player to go along with their DV updated displays?

The only DV capable players at the mo' seem to be Oppo based.

[Robert Zohn]

I would expect we'll see several DV capable UHD BD players at CES, January 2018 and released in April 2018.