Black Panther 4K UHD (2018)

[Khronikos]

Originally Posted by B-52 Bass

Yup, start it cause I'm signing it twice. This is pure BS it's no way they don't know about AQ issues by now. This is no excuse and also the PQ is NOT that great either. This movie made them so much money in the theater and to buy this and bring it home. We get subpar PQ/AQ to NOT enjoy at home, Smh...

How low of volume? What is wrong with turning up the volume? What is going on here? I have Coco, a title some people say has it, and I would like to understand what the main issue is.

[Khronikos]

Originally Posted by RAILERSWIM

The EQ still sucks but if you bump up your volume a bit and up the subwoofer level it sounds a little bit better on the affected movies.


I know why they do it. It’s less data heavy and is easier to stream and broadcast. They don’t want to have the post production and delivery teams making a million outputs. Honestly if they just could just render everything and then demux and remux to mix and match what they need.

Like how bad is this and can I use a film I have to test this? I have Coco. Does that suffer from the problem?

How are you measuring dynamic range?

[aetherhole]

Originally Posted by Black Sun

This picture definitely contains a lot of blacks.

lol I see what you did there...

jk

I know what you meant.

[RAILERSWIM]

Originally Posted by Khronikos

Like how bad is this and can I use a film I have to test this? I have Coco. Does that suffer from the problem?

How are you measuring dynamic range?

I’m not measuring, I can just hear the compression of the lower frequencies.

The best example would be The Last Jedi UHD on the Atmos track. Go to the scene with the holdo maneuver or to the scene where Kylo destroys the hangar bay.

[buckeye1]

If it wasn't for the cool looking steelbook I might have just gotten the Blu-Ray instead and saved me some money. Sounds like in the review that the 4K is no better than the non-UHD. Disney really need to step up their game. At this point Sony and Paramount is leading the way for 4k UHD.

[SS-3]

Originally Posted by shane01

Mine shipped today!

I am really starting to get disgusted with Best Buy. Pre-ordered Private Ryan steelbook on 3/28/18 and never received it. It states order delayed which means I probably will never get it. Yet folks that ordered after me have received their copy.

Pre-ordered Black Panther on 3/10/18. No shipping notice, no progress, no nothing. Again it appears I won't receive this one either. I placed an in store pickup order on 3/14/18 as a fail-safe. I have a hunch both will fall through.

Best Buy really needs to get their act together regarding pre-orders. It needs to be first come, first serve, and not warehouse proxmity.

I think you're actually better pre-ordering a week or two before release. It seems those folks are given higher priority than the folks that order early. I may cancel my two Infinity War steelbook orders and place them two week before release. There's a much better chance I will receive them if I do that, based upon personal experience.

I am an Elite Plus member and I have at least one major appliance I need to purchase this year. Normally it would be at Best Buy and I would retain my Elite Plus status. I am seriously considering going elsewhere based upon how this and Private Ryan pan out.

[Rocklandsboy]

Originally Posted by johnnyknoxsvill

Looks like I'll be canceling my pre-order and just watch it on the net somewhere. Won't get any of my money until they fix the audio issues

They really do need to sort this out. No about of picture resolution can compensate for poor audio (for me). Sound is at least 50% of the experience for me. They've screwed up several big movies already - including a Star Wars! Let's not let them screw up any more.

Walt Disney Records has similarly screwed up the "remastered" Star Wars soundtracks. Clearly Disney is now tone deaf.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Rocklandsboy

They really do need to sort this out. No about of picture resolution can compensate for poor audio (for me). Sound is at least 50% of the experience for me. They've screwed up several big movies already - including a Star Wars! Let's not let them screw up any more.

Walt Disney Records has similarly screwed up the "remastered" Star Wars soundtracks. Clearly Disney is now tone deaf.

The new soundtracks are just the film mixes of the music remixed into the album presentation. Any issue with the film mix will be in the soundtrack, which isn't good for the original trilogy but is fantastic for the prequels.

[Predatorix38417]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

I saw Infinity War and Black Panther in Dolby Cinema.

The ATMOS mixes were more than adequate in theater.

I saw Infinity War in a standard Atmos theater, and it sounded just like a UHD with very minimal rear-speaker activity, mostly seemed to be front.

[LordoftheRings]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lroi...ature=youtu.be

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Originally Posted by Predatorix38417

I saw Infinity War in a standard Atmos theater, and it sounded just like a UHD with very minimal rear-speaker activity, mostly seemed to be front.

Same here and I knew something was off from the start and the scene with Capt holding back Thanos you could barely hear him screaming while holding it back.

Like I've said before I didn't spend a good amount of money on my audio setup to get audio that sounds like its coming out of a soundbar from a 4k disk

[benji888578]

Originally Posted by benji888578

According to this list on dolby's website, apparently Black Panther and A Wrinkle In Time are Disney/Marvel final titles to be released in Dolby Vision in cinemas. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/cinema/t...-releases.html (yes, this means Infinity War will not be in Dolby Vision at Dolby Cinemas, but, yes to Dolby Atmos audio). (Unless they are just "unconfirmed".)

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I think you're reading too much into it- Dolby's site is notoriously slow to update this information in particular.

Originally Posted by Scorpion Soldier

Those titles will be in Dolby Vision. A lot of titles don't get updated till slightly before release. Incredibles 2 even already has a poster stating Dolby Vision:

[Show spoiler]

I meant to post this a couple weeks ago, apparently I was jumping the gun, I read this article and also went back to Dolby's site to see all future Disney films listed there now showing DV & DA.

Dolby and Disney Announce Extended Collaboration
http://www.avsforum.com/dolby-disney...collaboration/

[VenomBrock]

Originally Posted by johnnyknoxsvill

Same here and I knew something was off from the start and the scene with Capt holding back Thanos you could barely hear him screaming while holding it back.

Like I've said before I didn't spend a good amount of money on my audio setup to get audio that sounds like its coming out of a soundbar from a 4k disk

I certainly don't blame folks for being upset with these constant issues in Disney releases, but the Cap scream being played low was an artistic choice in a big music moment, not a mix issue.

[PsyTrix]

Glad I just went with the 3D release for this one, sounds like the 4K wasn't much of an upgrade.

[theace69]

I saw Infinity War in IMAX and a Dolby Cinema. IMAX sounded great but Dolby had better bass. At least mine did.

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by Black Sun

This picture definitely contains a lot of blacks.

Oh my... HE said it, not me!!

The CGI for the final fight scene looked (maybe even) worse than most of Wonder Woman lol. Yeah, THAT bad.

[jamesdevil]

Another puny Disney soundtrack. This is getting annoying.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Khronikos

So can we get an HDR10 vs Vision comparison at some point? I would like to see the differences.

HDR10 wins hands down, that's a no brainer

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

By murky you mean a raised black level? Or maybe I'm thinking of milky. Either way I don't believe that's the case here.

However it might have a similar crushed shadow situation to GotGV2, or at least the stream is like that.

GotGV2 is in HDR10, this one is in Dolby Vision...hence my fear of encountering murky blacks

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

GotGV2 is in HDR10, this one is in Dolby Vision...hence my fear of encountering murky blacks

This doesn't clarify for me what I quoted and is even more confusing