HDR Discussion Thread

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And that theoretical new app will require design, testing etc etc, plus the servers to back it all up and host all that content. I'm sure some tech bod could do it in an afternoon, but when Netflix is already plugged into millions and millions and millions of devices inside and outside of the home and already has dem servers chugging away then the studios who lose out in The Great Streaming War of the 2020's may choose the lesser of two weevils.

Just like to point out at this point, you've inadvertently been making the argument for a number of posts now why Apple, as I've said, might end up as the dominate platform for film's.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Huck Caton? Nice to put a face to the name,

the same, also worked Avatar 2

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

I would have gotten it if you simply included the pic in your post and not more URL hoops to jump thru. Since I don’t do the hyperlink musical chairs I will guess it has something to do with foosball.

well Wabs, I know you pride yourself for remaining seated all day long in your chair (the tail in your avatar severs a double function as a foot rest? ); nevertheless, if you choose not to partake, you lose -

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...oe#post4964093
good to see her ^ story finally coming to fruition - https://deadline.com/2020/12/sony-pi...fe-1234657710/

you got daughter(s) or only son(s)? Do you allow them to run the snow blower or force them to shovel?

P.S.
Technologically speaking, moving forward from the men’s 2018 FIFA World Cup - https://www.smpte.org/blog/why-cloud...-video-quality

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

Just like to point out at this point, you've inadvertently been making the argument for a number of posts now why Apple, as I've said, might end up as the dominate platform for film's.

And I never said that they don't have a shot at one day becoming said force, it's your crackpot theories about them actively undermining physical media that don't stack up. The entire movie disc industry is worth $13B a year and is only declining, while Apple's revenues were $260B in 2019. What's there to undermine? As with Disnee, Apple are going to do their own thing and they don't give a hoot about whatever else happens around them.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And I never said that they don't have a shot at one day becoming said force, it's your crackpot theories about them actively undermining physical media that don't stack up. The entire movie disc industry is worth $13B a year and is only declining, while Apple's revenues were $260B in 2019. What's there to undermine? As with Disnee, Apple are going to do their own thing and they don't give a hoot about whatever else happens around them.

Like they never tried to do the same with music? You don't remember Apple trying to undermine Spotify?

I agree all Apple have to theoretically do is exist. But a world where Apple has the only viable service for watching film's? Hard pass from me.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

Like they never tried to do the same with music? You don't remember Apple trying to undermine Spotify?

I agree all Apple have to theoretically do is exist. But a world where Apple has the only viable service for watching film's? Hard pass from me.

That's because Spotify was/is a threat you banana! Physical media is not, it's already a footnote in how the world consumes motion picture content and we're the only loonies left who care about it.

Here's a crazy idea though, why don't we worry about the Apple future or Disnee future or whatever future I'm supposed to be worried about when it actually gets here and the final disc rolls out of the replication plant? I hate [legally paying for] streaming, but if/when it's the only way to actually watch new content then I'll have to suck it up and join in.

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

well Wabs, I know you pride yourself for remaining seated all day long in your chair (the tail in your avatar severs a double function as a foot rest? ); nevertheless, if you choose not to partake, you lose -

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...oe#post4964093
good to see her ^ story finally coming to fruition - https://deadline.com/2020/12/sony-pi...fe-1234657710/

you got daughter(s) or only son(s)? Do you allow them to run the snow blower or force them to shovel?

P.S.
Technologically speaking, moving forward from the men’s 2018 FIFA World Cup - https://www.smpte.org/blog/why-cloud...-video-quality

I can see we won't be breaking your link dependence anytime soon. I'm beginning to think you get a little spiff from posting these cryptic links. So instead of going link cold turkey, lets go a different route. Lets practice our link posting etiquette. Just follow the proper guidelines and you'll be enjoying well written and informative posts in the actual post itself.

Example 1 (proper form)
Tom Tuttle from Tacoma, WA is using the triple lindy method of grading HDR and is getting good results. You can read more about it here; informativelink.com (This is a well thought out and concise post. We know what we're clinking on and we can make the informed decision before clicking if we want to or not)

Example 2 (bad form)
Tommy T is doing this; crypticlink.com (This is not acceptable posting behavior)

Feel free to screenshot this and reference it for future link postings. We can get you thru this, my spunky Padawan. Now take a short break. I heard GD is bringing his homemade haggis over for you and the Mrs. Bon appetit.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's because Spotify was/is a threat you banana! Physical media is not, it's already a footnote in how the world consumes motion picture content and we're the only loonies left who care about it.

Here's a crazy idea though, why don't we worry about the Apple future or Disnee future or whatever future I'm supposed to be worried about when it actually gets here and the final disc rolls out of the replication plant? I hate [legally paying for] streaming, but if/when it's the only way to actually watch new content then I'll have to suck it up and join in.

I'm a grapefruit sir!

You are viewing this in black and white terms. Yes physical media is obviously not commercial competition. But the fact it remains the choice of enthusiasts is a problem for Apple who, as i believe, want to be dominant digital service for film's.

You really underestimate how integral us loonies are.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

I'm a grapefruit sir!

You are viewing this in black and white terms. Yes physical media is obviously not commercial competition. But the fact it remains the choice of enthusiasts is a problem for Apple who, as i believe, want to be dominant digital service for film's.

You really underestimate how integral us loonies are.

So us nutty enthusiasts have all this supposed clout, but I thought Netflix were doomed because they don't produce blockbuster mainstream fayre and only stuff that appeals to the hardest of core? Hmmmm. We're both able to hole each other's arguments below the waterline so I'm happy to leave it there instead of derailing this thread any further

[Scottishguy]

So this HDR thing is rather lovely.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Tom Tuttle from Tacoma, WA is using the triple lindy method of grading HDR and is getting good results.

I know of Tom Poole (who colored - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...y#post16594273) and Tom Reiser, neither out of Tacoma, but who the heck is Tom Tuttle?
P.S.
Tonight I hope you’re watching what I’m watching.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

So this HDR thing is rather lovely.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.p...ction=showfull (or TG:M )
yo Scottish, allegedly “fake HDR” of Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussed with Walter at around, if memory serves, ~ 20 min. timestamp - https://icolorist.com/color-tour-pod...-hollywood-us/

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

What standard? you have 3 HDR formats how's that a standard? If your talking about Dolby's own specs then sure. I would think the step in TV tech would be 12 bit panels, but no ,nothing.

HDR10 I was talking about.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.p...ction=showfull (or TG:M )
yo Scottish, allegedly “fake HDR” of Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussed with Walter at around, if memory serves, ~ 20 min. timestamp - https://icolorist.com/color-tour-pod...-hollywood-us/

Thanks for the link, Volpatto absolutely roasts Vincent Teoh (albeit unnamed) there at the end

Fascinating to hear his process though, that he doesn't like doing a scene by scene transform when doing HDR trim passes, or even when doing a simpler transform from one space to another. He'd rather do a 'one light' pass that maintains the integrity of what was originally shot on a global level, presuming that the content has been shot to have a unified 'look' (as most productions would do).

[sapiendut]

Yeah. As soon as I see “fake HDR” on his channel, the forst thing that popped in my mind was “Oh gawd, clickbait and misinformation”.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Yeah. As soon as I see “fake HDR” on his channel, the forst thing that popped in my mind was “Oh gawd, clickbait and misinformation”.

And it's not like the actual analysis itself doesn't have merit on a purely scientific level because it genuinely does, it's all the bullshit supposition and reductive clickbait it comes wrapped in that I can't stand. What I still don't get is how level-headed (and hilariously self-deprecating) Vincent was and is when it comes to virtually any other aspect of his reviewing prowess, but his passion for the technology and desire for clicks has overriden the core tenet of a professional TV calibrator, to respect the intent of the creator. We don't have to like the intent, no-one said we did, but it's enough that we respect that it's their decision to make, not ours (which is of coursh Walter Volpatto's point at the end of that podcast) and that the work is the work, no matter what the marketing says.

[LordoftheRings]

Hang on, the year has just started.
I bet we'll see many records this year...in the number of views (HDR Discussion Thread).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Thanks for the link, Volpatto absolutely roasts Vincent Teoh (albeit unnamed) there at the end ...

b.t.w., for those unawares, Walter’s work – https://www.company3.com/artists/walter-volpatto/

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Fascinating to hear his process though,

he does take a different pathway
glad to hear to stayed in for the duration of the podcast

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

French connection.

scroll down to Wednesday, January 27 at 3pm for: Is 8K reasonable? here - https://www.parisimages.fr/le-programme/
to register - https://www.parisimages.fr/inscription/

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

scroll down to Wednesday, January 27 at 3pm for: Is 8K reasonable? here - https://www.parisimages.fr/le-programme/
to register - https://www.parisimages.fr/inscription/

Très bon.