4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Cool, just out of interest what is your pie of choice? (Sweet or savoury)

On Thanksgiving Day, definitely sweet…homemade pumpkin and for #2, pecan pie.

Debate ammunition for you - http://www.businessinsider.com/cord-...-of-tv-2013-11

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

On Thanksgiving Day, definitely sweet…homemade pumpkin and for #2, pecan pie.

Debate ammunition for you - http://www.businessinsider.com/cord-...-of-tv-2013-11

Now that backs up my fears and should send a shudder down the spine of home cinema fans everywhere. People turning to mobile devices rather than tv was my greatest concern. Now substitute smartwatches for phones in future and my argument doesn't look so crazy anymore, does it?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Now substitute smartwatches for phones in future and my argument doesn't look so crazy anymore, does it?

Not if the kids don't care if dem camels look like beige ants.

Context -
You mean Stewart was wrong?
http://blog.chron.com/techblog/2008/...5-inches-wide/

And the future is actually 1.6” diagonal …http://www.gizmag.com/galaxy-gear-vs...parison/29062/

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not if the kids don't care if dem camels look like beige ants.

Context -
You mean Stewart was wrong?
http://blog.chron.com/techblog/2008/...5-inches-wide/

And the future is actually 1.6” diagonal …http://www.gizmag.com/galaxy-gear-vs...parison/29062/

I feel warm all over that we could get 5 inch iPhones soon. Love my iPhones. Just waiting for avatar 2 now then I am all set.

I also want my smartwatch in 3D. Just for the immersion.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I feel warm all over that we could get 5 inch iPhones soon. Love my iPhones. Just waiting for avatar 2 now then I am all set.

I've had my 4.8" Windows Phone for some time now.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I've had my 4.8" Windows Phone for some time now.

I lke the nokia to be fair. Very nice. Just have no desire to watch a movie on one.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I feel warm all over that we could get 5 inch iPhones soon. Love my iPhones.

Well hell, that ( http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/apple-...-and-iphone-6/ < curved, bigger screen) will just put this old phone to shame -

Jon Stewart and IPhone @ Oscars 2008 - YouTube

[Flatnate]

Ok, so this is odd...

I'm surfing Amazon Cyber Monday deals and I see they are trying to pedal a Samsung 4K tv. What struck me as odd was in the main headline.... "free 4K content with Samsung 4K tv". So I click on the link and come to this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=gb1h_tit_c-2_1282_27cabfb3?docId=1001481851&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DE R&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=cent er-2&pf_rd_r=1Z34AHYDJB18RBFBYB7R&pf_rd_i=1288710011& pf_rd_p=1682211282

You click on details within that and come to a Samsung rebate page with zero details: http://4kmovies.samsungrebate.com/

Looks like two disc boxes? I thought poorly marketed 1080p Blu-rays from a 4K master perhaps? That would be pretty shady in my opinion.

However, you click on "faqs" and one of them reads near the end:

I just registered. When will I receive my content box?

Eligible customers will receive their preloaded hard drive within 10 – 12 weeks from registration.

Wait, what? Content box? ..... Hard drive?

Does anyone else have IMAX movies on a hard drive from Samsung or anyone else? What are the details on this?

[vargo]

Originally Posted by Flatnate

Does anyone else have IMAX movies on a hard drive from Samsung or anyone else? What are the details on this?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...-tv-customers/

[PeterTHX]

I'm surfing Amazon Cyber Monday deals and I see they are trying to pedal a Samsung 4K tv

Sounds quite difficult. When someone said they wanted to see the Tour De France in 4K...

[Show spoiler]peddle

[Flatnate]

Me fail English!? That's unpossible!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Flatnate

Wait, what? Content box? ..... Hard drive?

Seem to recall reading the press announcement from Samsung back in early November. I think they’re sending out the content to consumers vis-a-vie the 500GB model - http://www.seagate.com/www-content/s...xternal-ds.pdf

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by vargo

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...-tv-customers/

On a ‘ray’ note, heads-up to nic ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ay#post8467205 ) .

Varg’s link to digitaltrends is depicting the ventral aspect of a manta ray.
Any fellow divers out there? What’s dee name of dem little yellow fishies in the top right hand corner?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Sounds quite difficult. When someone said they wanted to see the Tour De France in 4K...

[Show spoiler]peddle

Easier than 'pullin' Daddy again and making sure Daddy don’t run you over, if he sneezes or something -

Pedal tractor kid "pulls" John Deere 730 - YouTube

[Flatnate]

Sounds kinda cool, I wonder what the file structure is on the hard drive and what support the One Connect Box has via USB for other content on had disc.

[Paul.R.S]

I figured it was a good idea back in the spring to take word of a possible BDA announcement of a 4k BD standard before the end of the year with a shaker of salt. Do we have any news since the Singulus 100Gb disc production line news from September?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

I figured it was a good idea back in the spring to take word of a possible BDA announcement of a 4k BD standard before the end of the year with a shaker of salt. Do we have any news since the Singulus 100Gb disc production line news from September?

Not sure who was expecting something out of the BDA before the end of the year...from my perusal of various threads over the months here in the Blu-ray Tech forum, I think most were looking forward to a meaningful progress report on the status of the “consideration” for 4K Blu-ray “ publically by a BDA spokesperson at CES 2014....something from the previous acknowledgment of a ‘feasibility study’ status to a definite ‘implementation’ status, regardless of the details or timetable to launch.

I would say that the only remotely related news (which, to my knowledge, hasn’t been reported on any of the consumer forums or by the audio/video journalists) is that this autumn the Hollywood studios proposed using the XYZ color space for encoding which has evolved into a formal project in SMPTE. If the project is successful, the intent is to complete this standard by March 2014 so it can then be sent onto the JCT-VC and the compression groups. While it hasn't been officially stated, this project appears to be the standards groundwork for signals going to the Dolby HDR monitors with an intention towards making the next generation Blu-ray format have this same capability.

We shall see. The whole color space issue is a very complex subject from both a technical and business implementation standpoint.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

The whole color space issue is a very complex subject...

For example…a fun utility for color scientists - http://rsbweb.nih.gov/ij/plugins/color-inspector.html#!

Anyway, so what is the significance of all this discussion over these past pages about HFR, HDR, wider color space, color subsampling and increased bit depth?...other than to put everyone to sleep.

Well, we want UHD-1 to progress in terms of improved picture and audio quality….most assuredly to settle out at something better than 8-bit 4k @ 60fps, *non-immersive* audio. The *fly in the ointment* is that these enhanced parameters to basic vanilla 4k come with varying degrees of implementation and economic drawbacks.

Sure, everyone wants the ‘ultimate’ 4k standards (like Joe K.), but the real challenge is to determine how much improvement you will get by upgrading certain parameters and at what economic cost (i.e. the practicality of it all). For instance, I would say that about half of all UHD-1 contributing engineers and scientists feel that HDR will bring better picture quality than HFR; whereas, the other half feels the exact opposite. Then you have to consider which feature would be the most expensive to offer, at the time. Then there’s colorimetry and different perspectives about that - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ry#post8249641

TV manufacturers want the cheapest solution (for them). Hollywood studios envision cost savings (for them) by applying much the same work already involved with mastering for D-Cinema (XYZ components) but extending that to TV production and home delivery….kind of ignoring/downplaying any possible substantial hardware upgrades (more powerful processing, etc.) needed to make it all happen by the consumer electronics industry. ITU sees BT.2020 colorimetry as a practical compromise between 709 and XYZ.

And of course, let’s not forget to applaud (rather than condemn) our early adopters of 4k devices (Geoff, etc.) for it is upon their spending backs that the 4k evolution will proceed rather than stagnate.

[Paul.R.S]

Re ^^ Is it your surmise/understanding that there is as much of a divide as you mention in your fourth para ("Sure, everyone wants . . .") over the other matter of going to market with a format based on "ultimate 4k" standards versus "vanilla 4k"? FWIW my sense of it is that by the time debates over "ultimate 4k" parameters as you've described them get resolved much less a standard codified, the ship may have sailed even farther from port on packaged media entirely.

[Flatnate]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I would say that the only remotely related news (which, to my knowledge, hasn’t been reported on any of the consumer forums or by the audio/video journalists) is that this autumn the Hollywood studios proposed using the XYZ color space for encoding which has evolved into a formal project in SMPTE. If the project is successful, the intent is to complete this standard by March 2014 so it can then be sent onto the JCT-VC and the compression groups. While it hasn't been officially stated, this project appears to be the standards groundwork for signals going to the Dolby HDR monitors with an intention towards making the next generation Blu-ray format have this same capability.

This would be very encouraging news indeed. *fingers crossed*